Richard Fidler

Is that what you want to be?

Is that what you've been aiming towards?

It's been really lovely speaking with you, Charles.

Thank you so much.

Thank you, Rich, for having me.

That was my conversation with Charles Lomu, youth worker and barber in Blacktown in Sydney.

We've been having a wonderful time plunging into the archives.

We've got so many stories from the thousands of guests over the years.

Sarah spoke to Colin Hay of Men At Work.

A few years ago, you reached out to a young musician, Justin Bieber, who on the surface seems to be a very different sort of musician from you.

What could you relate to in what was happening to him?

Or what could you see as the possible pitfalls that I guess you must have had to negotiate when your career was in that kind of place?

That's Colin Hay.

If you'd like to hear the whole of that conversation, please go to our website.

This conversation was recorded on the lands of the Gadigal people.

It was produced by Alice Moldovan.

Executive producer of Conversations' 20th anniversary collection is Carmel Rooney.

I'm Richard Feidler.

Thanks for listening.

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