Richard McCracken

For me, the greatest prime minister in the modern era.

So that's what I believe.

But that's, you know, people go, well, that's because you're a liberal voter.

No, because John Howard is.

I mean, I also like Bob Hawke for his, you know, his personality, et cetera.

He was a great, he owned the room, Bob Hawke.

He could own the room.

In other words, people loved him.

Yeah, and an unbelievable team.

But I think that.

And John, you're right, he's a great managing director.

And I think that you're right.

He actually, you knew what his values were.

He didn't go and say, these are my values.

But you knew what his values were by the way he executed, which I could talk to you for hours.

But I want to ask.

Yeah.

So in terms of when it's time to go, you and I got to go, but I wonder if you indulge me just a little, just for a second.

I only thought about, I've never done this before with a guest, but I wonder whether or not, if I could say to you, could I ask you five, six really rapid fire questions about

About the aviation industry.