Richard Osman

My first ever job, I was quite nervous.

Passenger gets in, it's Stephen Bartlett.

He said, at the end of the journey, 15 minutes later, he said, would you like to work for me?

And he said, and I've been his driver ever since.

So, you know, and funny enough, Smiley and I, because he dropped me back off at home as well, and we watched the Queen's funeral procession together because it was just at the end of my road.

Oh, really?

No, no, we had a little wander down and watched the funeral procession.

So I watched the Queen's funeral procession with Stephen Bartlett's driver.

Is there a podcast in that?

So, and as I say, when I met him, I sensed he was looking for something.

You know, he's in his 20s, of course, he's looking for something.

And I was happy to talk to him.

But, you know, he now occupies a very interesting place in our culture.

And this booze thing, I know we're talking a lot about Stephen Butler.

I really want to talk about this optimisation culture.

No, of course not.

But it reminds me of nothing more than what people used to do.

They used to optimize their children.

So their children would be at French lessons, then they'd be at piano lessons, and then they'd be at hockey practice.

So every night, their kids' lives were incredibly regimented because they were, you know...