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Chapter 1: What is the main topic discussed in this episode?
The rest is entertainment is presented by Octopus Energy. Now, fan mail is one of entertainment's strangest bargains. You send total devotion one way and the understanding that nothing may come back.
Certainly in our day, you would write to a film star or a singer. I wrote to Howard Jones. And maybe three months later, a sort of signed photo comes back that's clearly pro forma, you know, that you know Howard's never really looked at.
Steve Martin used to have the performer sort of thing, which would just leave blanks, like insert, like small details to make a joke about how completely impersonal his personal reply to you was. It was just like a standard thing.
Impersonal is interesting. That's why we're talking about this, because with Octopus Energy, you always can reply to their emails. And not only can you reply to them, they will go to the same small group of people who always deal with you. That's like unbelievable.
Yeah. It's almost unprecedented that a company you're giving your money to will actually respond to you.
Or contactable in some way.
Hello, and welcome to this episode of The Rest Is Entertainment with me, Marina Hyde.
And me, Richard Osman. Hello, everyone. Hi, Marina.
How are you, Richard?
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Chapter 2: What controversy did Steven Bartlett spark in the podcasting world?
He then built up his own brand, really. He wrote a book called Happy Sexy Millionaire. But again, and sold really, really, really well. It was really beautifully packaged. It's a great title. It's a great title. Essentially, you know, are these the things you would want to be? A happy, sexy millionaire. And got into podcasting very early with Diary of a CEO.
A diary of a CEO is you can, by the very title, it's essentially saying, well, I'm a CEO. I'm going to talk to some other CEOs, sort of, Man to man, usually man to man, occasionally man to woman. And it started as a business advice thing. But, you know, he's very smart. And it was always, what's the take home here? What can I teach you?
You can listen to this for an hour and be smarter and be more ambitious or have, you know, genuine take home stuff. He then started interviewing a few more celebrities and it started being a little bit more about mental health. When I went on it, again, I will say this. Firstly, it was a really interesting chat. I absolutely felt like he was in therapy.
I felt like a lot of the podcast was him asking questions and trying to work out who he was. And that's absolutely fine by me. I think that's fairly compelling in its own way. And after that podcast, whenever you do anything, any TV or podcast, you will get people come up and talk to you about it.
And that, a very, very different group of people came up and talked to me in a very, very different way and a very interesting way. So I've always, always been grateful I did that show and grateful I said some of the things I said and reached out to an audience who might not have heard that otherwise. So that's always been my thing with Stephen Bartlett. I sort of think...
Fair enough, and you can't deny that he now is enormously successful. Then he went on Dragon's Den, which I do have an opinion on, which we will get to. He is unbelievably good on Dragon's Den.
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Chapter 3: What should you know about celebrity destination weddings?
He's exactly what they need on that. They didn't have a digital native on that, and he brings a completely different energy to it. So he is somebody who I think has done extremely well. He clearly has elements of being a chancer, but also he has elements of not being a chancer. You know, he has followed through and he has made an awful lot of money in a very, very interesting way.
Now he is in this wellness world. I think there are issues. There are issues for our broader culture. I think there are certainly issues for the BBC.
Yeah, he's very sort of better never sleeps, isn't he? Yes. And these were, I mean, the whole thing of wearables and tracking everything, which has been, we'll get on to everyone diving in in a minute, and all the other podcasters, because I think that actually tells us something completely different to what we've been talking about.
And it's also funny. I just wanted to do that, just to sort of say, this is who this guy is, This is why he is a tog.
You know, he has set himself up to be there, but this is where it gets... He's absolutely made for, like, Fitbits and aura rings and whoop trackers, which I must... Please don't say wearable.
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Chapter 4: What is the current crisis facing America's flagship news show, 60 Minutes?
I mean, the thing about these things is I think if they must exist or they must do them, they cannot and must not pass for conversation. I don't want to hear about anybody's – it's like hearing about someone's dreams. I would literally rather hear about your dreams or how much your four-year-old child is gifted and talented and a genius than I would what your sleep score is.
It should be something slightly shameful that you do in private.
Yeah, I don't want to hear about your dreams, your kids, or your wearables.
Yeah.
It's a private activity, right? Like overpaying for Nido, the childhood crates, or watching lots of kissing montages from Heated Rivalry on YouTube. You shouldn't talk about it. You shouldn't talk about it if you do it.
There's no one in the room who would do either of those things.
Exactly. It's disgusting. Don't talk about it in public. So his tracker. But I did think it destabilised him so much that it reminded me a little bit of a modern version of the Twits. If you didn't like him and you worked for him, you worked at it and you could hack Stephen Bartlett's wearable, you could send him into an absolute tailspin, couldn't you?
Because you could just slightly alter the vitals and he would go into an absolute tailspin.
That's how someone would get murdered in an episode of Black Mirror.
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Chapter 5: How did Stephen Bartlett's remarks lead to a podcasting 'World War'?
These were regarded as complete sort of blasphemies at the time. And in the end, she resigned because she said that effectively Twitter had become the New York Times' silent editor because people were so scared of cancellation or backlash that they kind of
cleaved to quite a narrow point of view and I have some sympathy with that and there are lots of places that needed some kind of correction I think I will not say that I've agreed with everything she's done since then and people lots of people totally loathe her.
But she was installed, having never run a newsroom of any meaningful size before, and certainly not a TV newsroom, as editor-in-chief of CBS News by David Ellison.
Well, that's the thing. David Ellison buys her company for a lot of money and then sets her in charge of CBS News and 60 Minutes. So the situation you have is, as you say, someone who is an iconoclast versus a very traditional, very long-standing, fairly liberal... And this incredible franchise, which is 60 Minutes, which has been going forever and ever and ever.
And a lot of the correspondents are in their 70s and 80s and have been there forever. And suddenly she's a new broom sweeping through it. Now, CBS News, which she's in charge of, ratings are down and down and down. And now we have a situation with 60 Minutes, which is the absolute jewel in the crown. And it should be said, profitable.
Yeah.
You know, good ratings, profitable. Vice bought in a new kind of chief editor called Nick Bilton, who is not particularly from a news background. He used to write for Vanity Fair as a screenwriter, all sorts of things like that.
He used to be tech correspondent at New York Times.
Yeah. So, you know, he's from that world. And they had a meeting last week where he came in for the first time. And a lot of the big correspondents have left already. Anderson Cooper, who was the sort of probably the biggest dog of all at 60 Minutes. He has left.
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