Richard Reeves

But just ask your sons if there's someone listening to this who can't quite believe their son is saying the things they're saying or is interested.

Just take a deep breath and say hi.

Why do you think that?

Where did you get that from?

Show me where you got that from.

Let's look into that.

Maybe I'm wrong about that, but let's look into it.

If you panic and immediately go into judgmental mode, you've just done the work of the reactionaries because that's exactly what they say you'll do.

So don't do it.

There are some surveys showing that loneliness rates are higher among men.

But we've published work on this now looking at a much wider range of surveys, and we don't find much of a gender gap.

We do find a big class gap.

It's more of a class story than a gender story.

So what's happening, I think, is that slowly but surely, this sensibility about boys and men is being built into the policy conversation and into the policy architecture.

And that's starting to lead to some really exciting developments.

I hope that within the next few years, actually having programs to help men in higher education, for example, having similar programs to get men into teaching and nursing, as we've seen in STEM, would be great.

I've just launched the Male Educator Network, which is specifically modeled on some of the organizations like the Society of Women in Engineering to try and get more men into teaching and support the men who are in teaching.

I hope that within four or five years, people will be like, yeah, of course we would do that.

Why wouldn't we do that?

We'll keep doing the other stuff too, but...