Richard Scolyer

for people with what we call stage three melanoma, it's much more effective.

You can have exactly the same number of drugs, same dosages, but you give some of it before and some of it after.

And the survival curves are chalk and cheese.

That's a great question, Sarah.

And it's because if you've got more tumours on board, the immune system is more stimulated to recognise tumour cells.

And it's been described as a bit like training sniffer dogs out at the airport to be able to find small quantities of drugs that people might be trying to get in and out.

So yeah, that's the idea of it.

It was busy and it was basically family life and work.

I looked at myself in the mirror one time after the third kid had come along and I thought, oh, gee, I want to be here when my kids grow older.

So I thought I need to look after my body a bit more and try and keep my coronary arteries patent.

So, yeah, got back into exercise.

You're embarrassing my personality, Sarah.

But, yeah, unfortunately, I guess for Katie and some other people, I seem to have this determination and, yeah, really want to push myself too hard.

I try and hide it, to be honest.

In triathlon, I think, I don't know, in double figures times.

It's not as, well, it's great and fun, but it's not like elite level triathletes.

They have age groups, so five-year age groups and...

Yeah.

And it's fun.

You make great friends.