Richard Sutton

It just sacrifices material for sort of positional advantages.

And it's just content and patient to sacrifice that material for a long period of time.

And so that was surprising that it worked so well, but also gratifying and fitting into my worldview.

Yeah.

So this has led me where I am.

Where I am is I'm in some sense a contrarian or thinking differently from the field is.

And I am personally just kind of content being out of sync with my field for a long period of time, perhaps decades, because occasionally I have improved right in the past.

And the other thing I do to help me not feel I'm out of sync and thinking in a strange way is to look not at my local environment or my local field, but to look back in time and into history and to see what people have thought classically about the mind in many different fields.

And I don't feel I'm out of sync with the larger traditions.

I really view myself as a classicist rather than as a contrarian.

I go to what the larger community of thinkers about the mind have always thought.

You want to presume that it's been done.

Well, but you're using it to get AGI again.

So these AGIs, if they're not superhuman already, then the knowledge that they might impart would be not superhuman.

I'm not sure your idea makes sense because it seems to presume the existence of AGI.

And then we've already worked that out.

And the way AlphaZero was an improvement was it did not use the human knowledge, but just went from experience.

Right.

So why do you say bring in other agents' expertise to teach it when it's worked so well from experience and not by help from another agent?

Right.