Richard Taite
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No, I'm not up on my serial killers.
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Which he should have won. Um, But that's how long he's cared about this thing, right? And one of the great days was the introduction to you. And I was reading today in April of 2023, you guys had a setback with Alexandra's Law, okay? Before you get into that setback, can you tell the audience what Alexandra's Law is?
Which he should have won. Um, But that's how long he's cared about this thing, right? And one of the great days was the introduction to you. And I was reading today in April of 2023, you guys had a setback with Alexandra's Law, okay? Before you get into that setback, can you tell the audience what Alexandra's Law is?
the problems you had with it in April, and exactly what it does now included into Prop 36.
the problems you had with it in April, and exactly what it does now included into Prop 36.
It doesn't seem like it's hard to prove right now. Not now. There's somebody dying every seven minutes in this country.
It doesn't seem like it's hard to prove right now. Not now. There's somebody dying every seven minutes in this country.
This, to the listeners, doesn't sound like common sense. Does sound like common sense. It doesn't. Because... Even the passage of this seems so light and so just ridiculous. Give me some examples if you know of them in red states that just aren't having any of this. Do you know anything like that? Well, in many red states, they've passed legislation that's actually tougher. That's my point.
This, to the listeners, doesn't sound like common sense. Does sound like common sense. It doesn't. Because... Even the passage of this seems so light and so just ridiculous. Give me some examples if you know of them in red states that just aren't having any of this. Do you know anything like that? Well, in many red states, they've passed legislation that's actually tougher. That's my point.
Give me some examples, because that's where you're going to find the common sense. Right.
Give me some examples, because that's where you're going to find the common sense. Right.
Okay, today's Fentanyl Awareness Day. And what we're going to do for that is we're going to honor the families who have lost their loved ones to fentanyl. And the best way to do that is to introduce you to a gentleman by the name of Matt Capilouto. But I know him as Alexandra's dad. So... Welcome, Matt. How you doing, man? Thank you. Thank you for having me, Rich. Appreciate it.
Okay, today's Fentanyl Awareness Day. And what we're going to do for that is we're going to honor the families who have lost their loved ones to fentanyl. And the best way to do that is to introduce you to a gentleman by the name of Matt Capilouto. But I know him as Alexandra's dad. So... Welcome, Matt. How you doing, man? Thank you. Thank you for having me, Rich. Appreciate it.
Very quickly. Yes, this was too harsh. The slap on the wrist was too harsh. Yes, the warning was. This is so funny. Dylan, we have to put this on the camera. Okay. We have to get a real, it's a get out of jail free card, just like you would have in Monopoly. This is genius. I like this. Chance, sell drugs, kill Americans, go directly to jail. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
Very quickly. Yes, this was too harsh. The slap on the wrist was too harsh. Yes, the warning was. This is so funny. Dylan, we have to put this on the camera. Okay. We have to get a real, it's a get out of jail free card, just like you would have in Monopoly. This is genius. I like this. Chance, sell drugs, kill Americans, go directly to jail. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
And then you've got this. To our website. To your website. Yeah.
And then you've got this. To our website. To your website. Yeah.
This is actually what the judge or the bailiff will read these folks, these dealers being charged with this. Okay, this is good. Oh, okay, it's better. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I have a feeling that in some of these red states, it's like you deal fentanyl and you're like locked up for over a decade.
This is actually what the judge or the bailiff will read these folks, these dealers being charged with this. Okay, this is good. Oh, okay, it's better. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I have a feeling that in some of these red states, it's like you deal fentanyl and you're like locked up for over a decade.
I want to go over the fentanyl thing federally for a second because I've been doing some research for a long time. And what I did was I was putting these things down and then I cross-referenced them with what President Trump is currently doing for the fentanyl crisis and what he's going to be doing in short order. And I'm very encouraged by what he's been doing.
I want to go over the fentanyl thing federally for a second because I've been doing some research for a long time. And what I did was I was putting these things down and then I cross-referenced them with what President Trump is currently doing for the fentanyl crisis and what he's going to be doing in short order. And I'm very encouraged by what he's been doing.
So the first thing he's done is he's disrupted domestic fentanyl labs and pill mills with DEA tasks, task forces. That's fantastic, right? He's increased funding to law enforcement for drug interdiction and border enforcement. That's good. Okay. He's strengthened the border detection tech and canine units at ports of entry. And really, I was just viewing the news the other night.
So the first thing he's done is he's disrupted domestic fentanyl labs and pill mills with DEA tasks, task forces. That's fantastic, right? He's increased funding to law enforcement for drug interdiction and border enforcement. That's good. Okay. He's strengthened the border detection tech and canine units at ports of entry. And really, I was just viewing the news the other night.
The illegal entry into the United States from the southern border has essentially stopped. He expanded access to naloxone and makes it available over the counter. He's done more of that. Funded state-level harm reduction programs. Okay, that's not true. That's going on right now. He's not going to have an ear for that. Okay? And you shouldn't.
The illegal entry into the United States from the southern border has essentially stopped. He expanded access to naloxone and makes it available over the counter. He's done more of that. Funded state-level harm reduction programs. Okay, that's not true. That's going on right now. He's not going to have an ear for that. Okay? And you shouldn't.
Because there's many ways to do harm reduction, right? Fentanyl strips are not the way to go, okay? Because they don't work.
Because there's many ways to do harm reduction, right? Fentanyl strips are not the way to go, okay? Because they don't work.
Well, that's a that's this is a holistic plan, right? Yeah. And these are the things he's doing currently. Let me tell you what he's going to be doing. He is going to broker a deal with China to stop exporting fentanyl precursor chemicals. Okay. I've said all along that is the most surveilled country in the world. They know where everybody is and what they're doing at all times.
Well, that's a that's this is a holistic plan, right? Yeah. And these are the things he's doing currently. Let me tell you what he's going to be doing. He is going to broker a deal with China to stop exporting fentanyl precursor chemicals. Okay. I've said all along that is the most surveilled country in the world. They know where everybody is and what they're doing at all times.
They're looking the other way. Okay. And right now this is affecting our military. So it's a national security issue. If he hasn't already, he will be classifying fentanyl trafficking as a national security threat. He's going to be, if he hasn't already, designating Mexican cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. I think I heard something about that just recently. This is my all-time favorite.
They're looking the other way. Okay. And right now this is affecting our military. So it's a national security issue. If he hasn't already, he will be classifying fentanyl trafficking as a national security threat. He's going to be, if he hasn't already, designating Mexican cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. I think I heard something about that just recently. This is my all-time favorite.
It's a big deal, huh? It is a big deal. I mean, I'm not crazy about having a day. Yeah. Okay? That seems kind of lame and, you know, gratuitous. Wish there wasn't a need for it. Well, I mean, every day should be Fentanyl Awareness Day. Tell me about Alexandra and what made her so special.
It's a big deal, huh? It is a big deal. I mean, I'm not crazy about having a day. Yeah. Okay? That seems kind of lame and, you know, gratuitous. Wish there wasn't a need for it. Well, I mean, every day should be Fentanyl Awareness Day. Tell me about Alexandra and what made her so special.
Authorize cross-border strike capabilities for cartel labs in coordination with Mexico. Or not in coordination with Mexico. I care not at all. I care not at all. Yeah, not at all. Okay. Launch a nationwide fentanyl education and warning campaign for middle and high schools, which is exactly what you and I are doing every day. Right? This is, you know, here's the reason.
Authorize cross-border strike capabilities for cartel labs in coordination with Mexico. Or not in coordination with Mexico. I care not at all. I care not at all. Yeah, not at all. Okay. Launch a nationwide fentanyl education and warning campaign for middle and high schools, which is exactly what you and I are doing every day. Right? This is, you know, here's the reason.
If you're not affected by fentanyl, if you don't have a child or a loved one who's gone, you don't feel it. Your life is busy. You're like, okay, this sucks. This is a bad deal. It's horrible. Right. You know, but it doesn't land. Right. And, and I've got young children. And it seems insane to me for parents with young children, youngish children, teenagers, early 20s.
If you're not affected by fentanyl, if you don't have a child or a loved one who's gone, you don't feel it. Your life is busy. You're like, okay, this sucks. This is a bad deal. It's horrible. Right. You know, but it doesn't land. Right. And, and I've got young children. And it seems insane to me for parents with young children, youngish children, teenagers, early 20s.
It's like, if you're not interested in this and you've had children, why'd you have children?
It's like, if you're not interested in this and you've had children, why'd you have children?
And with your daughter, the important thing to know is she wasn't an active drug user. See, the people that are active drug users, fentanyl users, don't typically die because they know how to use fentanyl. It's the kids from college or high school that go to a party or whatever that are not sophisticated at this. They're the ones dying. So it's really harming the kids that...
And with your daughter, the important thing to know is she wasn't an active drug user. See, the people that are active drug users, fentanyl users, don't typically die because they know how to use fentanyl. It's the kids from college or high school that go to a party or whatever that are not sophisticated at this. They're the ones dying. So it's really harming the kids that...
And we're out of time because they're dying. That's why. Do you know we call this we're out of time? Great name. Well, because you. That's why. Dude, everything was because of you. Everything I've done after hearing your story, everything I've done is because of you. Let's go.
And we're out of time because they're dying. That's why. Do you know we call this we're out of time? Great name. Well, because you. That's why. Dude, everything was because of you. Everything I've done after hearing your story, everything I've done is because of you. Let's go.
I want to finish this thing because I want to create some hope around this thing nationally because we're at a time where our president, okay, is not like other presidents. He creates a vaccine in nine months that takes 20 years to do. OK, he doesn't care about Congress or the courts telling him what he can't do. He's going to do what he wants to do. Right.
I want to finish this thing because I want to create some hope around this thing nationally because we're at a time where our president, okay, is not like other presidents. He creates a vaccine in nine months that takes 20 years to do. OK, he doesn't care about Congress or the courts telling him what he can't do. He's going to do what he wants to do. Right.
You know, I call it a more modern democracy. It's going to be a modern democracy going forward. OK, that's just what this is. Real quick, mandate digital warnings on social media platforms where pills are sold, Snapchat, Telegram, etc. Okay, that would be amazing, right?
You know, I call it a more modern democracy. It's going to be a modern democracy going forward. OK, that's just what this is. Real quick, mandate digital warnings on social media platforms where pills are sold, Snapchat, Telegram, etc. Okay, that would be amazing, right?
Right, but they're smart enough to have AA algorithms that when people are looking at that specific content, I'm not talking about an Elmo video or an unboxing video for five-year-olds, right? I'm talking about something that comes up in or around that subject. And then it's like warning where it's flashing. Okay. Support that 100%. And he's going to do it.
Right, but they're smart enough to have AA algorithms that when people are looking at that specific content, I'm not talking about an Elmo video or an unboxing video for five-year-olds, right? I'm talking about something that comes up in or around that subject. And then it's like warning where it's flashing. Okay. Support that 100%. And he's going to do it.
And there's no reason not to do it because it's not around other content. So it's not going to affect their bottom line. This is something that needs to be done. I mean, it's come on. Mark, come on, man.
And there's no reason not to do it because it's not around other content. So it's not going to affect their bottom line. This is something that needs to be done. I mean, it's come on. Mark, come on, man.
Alexandra's Law, or something stricter, obviously, nationally. Okay. And it is right now.
Alexandra's Law, or something stricter, obviously, nationally. Okay. And it is right now.
Wouldn't it be great if the president instituted something where the federal government had to oversee specifically that they were doing these cases and that they weren't just blowing it on?
Wouldn't it be great if the president instituted something where the federal government had to oversee specifically that they were doing these cases and that they weren't just blowing it on?
This is the perfect president for the fentanyl issue. He's perfect, okay, for this, okay? You cannot find a better man. You can't.
This is the perfect president for the fentanyl issue. He's perfect, okay, for this, okay? You cannot find a better man. You can't.
Okay. Create a fentanyl specific federal charge with mandatory minimums. He's doing it. launch a national treatment infrastructure build out 1,000 new centers in five years. I don't know if he's going to do that. It's a challenge. It's ambitious. I just don't know if that's in his wheelhouse. I do know this.
Okay. Create a fentanyl specific federal charge with mandatory minimums. He's doing it. launch a national treatment infrastructure build out 1,000 new centers in five years. I don't know if he's going to do that. It's a challenge. It's ambitious. I just don't know if that's in his wheelhouse. I do know this.
I do know that if he knew that there were building after building after building vacant at the VA, I know for certain he'd be like, Throw him in there. Treat those people. I mean, that man must be aggravated all day long.
I do know that if he knew that there were building after building after building vacant at the VA, I know for certain he'd be like, Throw him in there. Treat those people. I mean, that man must be aggravated all day long.
Okay, and... I agree to that. There's more awareness around it, thank God. There's more access to Narcan.
Okay, and... I agree to that. There's more awareness around it, thank God. There's more access to Narcan.
OK, that needs it needs to be hit on every level. OK, because that's how wars are fought. Right. It doesn't take a year to get off fentanyl. OK, depending on the length of usage and the amount of usage, it could take you a year to for your head to completely clear. OK, but it's rare, very rare. OK, this thing typically can be knocked out in 90 days.
OK, that needs it needs to be hit on every level. OK, because that's how wars are fought. Right. It doesn't take a year to get off fentanyl. OK, depending on the length of usage and the amount of usage, it could take you a year to for your head to completely clear. OK, but it's rare, very rare. OK, this thing typically can be knocked out in 90 days.
okay, with a good aftercare program because it's like anything else. If you don't use it, you lose it, right? You walk out of a treatment center on fire, I'm good, I'm going to kill it, right? And then, you know, 90 days later, they're back where they were because, you know, you don't go through 40 hours of treatment a week and then just walk into nothing. That's not reality.
okay, with a good aftercare program because it's like anything else. If you don't use it, you lose it, right? You walk out of a treatment center on fire, I'm good, I'm going to kill it, right? And then, you know, 90 days later, they're back where they were because, you know, you don't go through 40 hours of treatment a week and then just walk into nothing. That's not reality.
There's one thing I'll never know, right? But remember, you called me and didn't you want me to spend money on a billboard? Didn't you do that? Yes. Right?
There's one thing I'll never know, right? But remember, you called me and didn't you want me to spend money on a billboard? Didn't you do that? Yes. Right?
Do you remember the day? November 5th, 2024. November 5th, 2024. Excellent. Now... When did it start gaining traction? At the beginning of 2024? Was it a little before that? Because I remember in April, in April 2023, you had that huge setback. So when did it start where you said, okay, this now has a shot?
Do you remember the day? November 5th, 2024. November 5th, 2024. Excellent. Now... When did it start gaining traction? At the beginning of 2024? Was it a little before that? Because I remember in April, in April 2023, you had that huge setback. So when did it start where you said, okay, this now has a shot?
So if you're listening to this podcast... And you've had enough of that nonsense. There are the four people to get rid of as quickly as possible.
So if you're listening to this podcast... And you've had enough of that nonsense. There are the four people to get rid of as quickly as possible.
But if you can drive a car at 16, okay, which it has deadly capabilities, okay, then you should be able to, like, can't you go to war at 18? Yeah.
But if you can drive a car at 16, okay, which it has deadly capabilities, okay, then you should be able to, like, can't you go to war at 18? Yeah.
Yeah. 16 and 18, 16 through 18 should be a different standard. Right.
Yeah. 16 and 18, 16 through 18 should be a different standard. Right.
When did this thing start really taking hold? There was a taunt. Was it in 2024?
When did this thing start really taking hold? There was a taunt. Was it in 2024?
Where if you write out of the line this much, they don't count signature.
Where if you write out of the line this much, they don't count signature.
So really what they're saying is there's 70% of the people in California who have common sense. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's good news. I didn't think that that was that high.
So really what they're saying is there's 70% of the people in California who have common sense. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's good news. I didn't think that that was that high.
Let me just go back because these are people. This was a this was not a liberal movement. idea the liberals were very much against this in california so to have where 60 where two-thirds of the state is democrat to have 70 of the state say uh-uh this is a bridge too far you're dealing this stuff you're going to jail
Let me just go back because these are people. This was a this was not a liberal movement. idea the liberals were very much against this in california so to have where 60 where two-thirds of the state is democrat to have 70 of the state say uh-uh this is a bridge too far you're dealing this stuff you're going to jail
Drug offense dealing or using? Either. Okay, well, you can never lent those two, but go on.
Drug offense dealing or using? Either. Okay, well, you can never lent those two, but go on.
Who the hell goes through... three convictions of anything. 99% of cases settle.
Who the hell goes through... three convictions of anything. 99% of cases settle.
That's not going to make a big difference. And the reason it's not going to make a big difference is exactly what I told you. Okay. They're going to plead. Okay. So they're never going to be in that situation. Now, a lot of the times the pleading will result in that. Yes.
That's not going to make a big difference. And the reason it's not going to make a big difference is exactly what I told you. Okay. They're going to plead. Okay. So they're never going to be in that situation. Now, a lot of the times the pleading will result in that. Yes.
So that's not in there yet. No, it is in there. Okay. So what does it say? What is the definition of completely completed their treatment? Well, I imagine, you know, if it's a number of steps.
So that's not in there yet. No, it is in there. Okay. So what does it say? What is the definition of completely completed their treatment? Well, I imagine, you know, if it's a number of steps.
I don't know what that includes. So you'd have to read more in the details of Prop 13. I want you to send that. I don't want to put them on the screen. Because that's bull. And let me tell you, Walk, depending on how you define that, Okay. It doesn't mean anything. It's like saying, what is your success rate in a rehab? People ask me that all the time. I'm like, what criteria?
I don't know what that includes. So you'd have to read more in the details of Prop 13. I want you to send that. I don't want to put them on the screen. Because that's bull. And let me tell you, Walk, depending on how you define that, Okay. It doesn't mean anything. It's like saying, what is your success rate in a rehab? People ask me that all the time. I'm like, what criteria?
Because every single rehab uses a different criteria to serve them and make them look good. My definition is a year sober with regular testing every week. Okay, so that you know, you don't think you know, you know, you know, it's real, right? So a year sober, you know, six months in a rehab and six months in a sober living with outpatient. Okay, that to me sounds like, okay, you're good.
Because every single rehab uses a different criteria to serve them and make them look good. My definition is a year sober with regular testing every week. Okay, so that you know, you don't think you know, you know, you know, it's real, right? So a year sober, you know, six months in a rehab and six months in a sober living with outpatient. Okay, that to me sounds like, okay, you're good.
I would even say further, it might be an extra two years OK. Right. So if you fall in the next two years, it's not expunged. Right. So these are the types of things that I would be interested to know.
I would even say further, it might be an extra two years OK. Right. So if you fall in the next two years, it's not expunged. Right. So these are the types of things that I would be interested to know.
But that goes back... That's not... That's illusory. Okay? It's illusory because... 98% or 99% are being settled out. They're not going to trial. They're not being arrested. You're saying they're not even being arrested? That's correct. Absolutely. You didn't say convicted. You said arrested. Arrested. Both. Both. 98% of the fentanyl dealers don't even get arrested. Absolutely.
But that goes back... That's not... That's illusory. Okay? It's illusory because... 98% or 99% are being settled out. They're not going to trial. They're not being arrested. You're saying they're not even being arrested? That's correct. Absolutely. You didn't say convicted. You said arrested. Arrested. Both. Both. 98% of the fentanyl dealers don't even get arrested. Absolutely.
So they're out there and the cops are just, I don't want to deal with this right now.
So they're out there and the cops are just, I don't want to deal with this right now.
And we need to shift that. Why are they writing it up as an accidental overdose? How would they know? Why wouldn't they just write it up as an overdose and then let the legal process take its course? Because if it's marked non-criminal. There's no further investigation. What do you mean? How do you mark an overdose non-criminal before you've investigated it?
And we need to shift that. Why are they writing it up as an accidental overdose? How would they know? Why wouldn't they just write it up as an overdose and then let the legal process take its course? Because if it's marked non-criminal. There's no further investigation. What do you mean? How do you mark an overdose non-criminal before you've investigated it?
OK, so but they don't know. So why not, Nathan? There's your next deal.
OK, so but they don't know. So why not, Nathan? There's your next deal.
The vast majority do not. Come on. I don't even know any here for this. There's nothing like, you know, this type of uh trauma and it's really murder it's poison it's not it's not they're not overdosed they're being poisoned right to death yeah so i've never heard of something like this and then somebody gets a an admonishment in court and people are like yay this is nonsense to me
The vast majority do not. Come on. I don't even know any here for this. There's nothing like, you know, this type of uh trauma and it's really murder it's poison it's not it's not they're not overdosed they're being poisoned right to death yeah so i've never heard of something like this and then somebody gets a an admonishment in court and people are like yay this is nonsense to me
But then you deal it again, but nobody dies. It doesn't take effect, does it? Well, if somebody does die, and they can- Forget that. In this scenario, the guy goes in, he sells fentanyl, nobody dies, he gets arrested, and he's read an admonishment in court. There is no conviction. It's- It's in stone. It's part of the deal. If you want to leave today, this is the deal you're cutting.
But then you deal it again, but nobody dies. It doesn't take effect, does it? Well, if somebody does die, and they can- Forget that. In this scenario, the guy goes in, he sells fentanyl, nobody dies, he gets arrested, and he's read an admonishment in court. There is no conviction. It's- It's in stone. It's part of the deal. If you want to leave today, this is the deal you're cutting.
And then they do that. Five minutes later, he's out on the street dealing again, but nobody dies. What did the admonishment... Well, keep in mind, so we mirrored our current... Forget that. I'm talking about the law right now.
And then they do that. Five minutes later, he's out on the street dealing again, but nobody dies. What did the admonishment... Well, keep in mind, so we mirrored our current... Forget that. I'm talking about the law right now.
However, that's true and I'll tell you why that's happening. But true or untrue, you get an admonishment, you leave the courthouse before you hit the car, you're caught dealing again, you're arrested and back in court, but nobody dies. Other than what did the admonishment in that scenario mean?
However, that's true and I'll tell you why that's happening. But true or untrue, you get an admonishment, you leave the courthouse before you hit the car, you're caught dealing again, you're arrested and back in court, but nobody dies. Other than what did the admonishment in that scenario mean?
The answer is nothing, correct? If you don't, if you get the admonishment... I'm not talking shit about the admonishment, dude. I'm the president of the fan club right now about admonishment. Somebody doesn't have to listen to it. They don't have to. I understand. But they're setting themselves up for trouble in the future. I understand that.
The answer is nothing, correct? If you don't, if you get the admonishment... I'm not talking shit about the admonishment, dude. I'm the president of the fan club right now about admonishment. Somebody doesn't have to listen to it. They don't have to. I understand. But they're setting themselves up for trouble in the future. I understand that.
But true or untrue, does there anything different happen to them if they leave the courtroom, they just got the admonishment, they're back the next day, but no one dies?
But true or untrue, does there anything different happen to them if they leave the courtroom, they just got the admonishment, they're back the next day, but no one dies?
Okay. That's good. That's good news. Right. I was hoping there'd be something because, you know, you said to yourself that there's not investigating a ton of these things.
Okay. That's good. That's good news. Right. I was hoping there'd be something because, you know, you said to yourself that there's not investigating a ton of these things.
They'll start doing it now because now they have the support. Yeah. of knowing they're going to be convicted, right? Before they knew that it was a waste of their time. So why would they do it? I get it. And there's too many of their constituents who have now lost a loved one that are demanding it.
They'll start doing it now because now they have the support. Yeah. of knowing they're going to be convicted, right? Before they knew that it was a waste of their time. So why would they do it? I get it. And there's too many of their constituents who have now lost a loved one that are demanding it.
Now, let me tell you why there were so many people, okay, that stopped drinking and driving once the admonishment happened. Only five to 10% of the country rise to the level of drug addiction or alcoholism? Only about 10%. What does that mean? Well, there's the rest of us, the other 90% of us that have high bottoms. We're not dependent on it. We're not thinking about it all day, right?
Now, let me tell you why there were so many people, okay, that stopped drinking and driving once the admonishment happened. Only five to 10% of the country rise to the level of drug addiction or alcoholism? Only about 10%. What does that mean? Well, there's the rest of us, the other 90% of us that have high bottoms. We're not dependent on it. We're not thinking about it all day, right?
So those people immediately, over half of those people are going to immediately go, ah, never again. Those are the rule followers among us. And the rest, to various degrees, are going to be compliant. So because of that and because it's in our consciousness from back of mind to front of mind, what happens is you're always going to have a huge positive result when you do something like that.
So those people immediately, over half of those people are going to immediately go, ah, never again. Those are the rule followers among us. And the rest, to various degrees, are going to be compliant. So because of that and because it's in our consciousness from back of mind to front of mind, what happens is you're always going to have a huge positive result when you do something like that.
I think I might have said something earlier in the podcast to conflict that and I was wrong.
I think I might have said something earlier in the podcast to conflict that and I was wrong.
You and I both get caught drinking and driving. We both go in front of the court. The judge looks at you and says, Matthew, if you ever drink and drive again, you're going to jail for a decade. Do you hear me? And you're like, yes, sir, my ass is kicked. And you can actually make a decision in that moment. Never drinking and driving again. Me? I'm told that? I'm going to jail. I know it.
You and I both get caught drinking and driving. We both go in front of the court. The judge looks at you and says, Matthew, if you ever drink and drive again, you're going to jail for a decade. Do you hear me? And you're like, yes, sir, my ass is kicked. And you can actually make a decision in that moment. Never drinking and driving again. Me? I'm told that? I'm going to jail. I know it.
I'm factoring it in. Go to jail. Right? I mean, check. Right? It's just a matter of time. So I don't have a choice. How can other families support your mission?
I'm factoring it in. Go to jail. Right? I mean, check. Right? It's just a matter of time. So I don't have a choice. How can other families support your mission?
Was she on psych medication?
Was she on psych medication?
Now, you know, the podcast is here because of you and your daughter. We've been doing it.
Now, you know, the podcast is here because of you and your daughter. We've been doing it.
I know I had them all on my, you helped me to find them. I got all those people on that PSA that I ran up in Sacramento for a year. Fentanyl changes everything.
I know I had them all on my, you helped me to find them. I got all those people on that PSA that I ran up in Sacramento for a year. Fentanyl changes everything.
When Alexandra's love was being hurt. From October 23 through and including December 24. Yeah. Wow. You know, I didn't even know your name forever. What did I used to call you?
When Alexandra's love was being hurt. From October 23 through and including December 24. Yeah. Wow. You know, I didn't even know your name forever. What did I used to call you?
Like you said, we're out of time. So before you go, I wanted to tell you about an idea I had, right, that I think would be really good. I want you to write a beginning, a middle, and an end to a documentary or a short film about your daughter and fentanyl. Don't get into the passage of anything and none of that noise, okay? Just how wonderful your daughter was, right?
Like you said, we're out of time. So before you go, I wanted to tell you about an idea I had, right, that I think would be really good. I want you to write a beginning, a middle, and an end to a documentary or a short film about your daughter and fentanyl. Don't get into the passage of anything and none of that noise, okay? Just how wonderful your daughter was, right?
I'll want video afterwards of her maybe as a baby and with her parents and Pappy, right? And then... As she grows up and what made her so special, right? And then what happened? So a beginning, a middle, and an end, okay? I'm thinking 10, 15 minutes max, right? When you do that, I'll have it made into that movie, that short film, and we'll show it in every school in the country, okay?
I'll want video afterwards of her maybe as a baby and with her parents and Pappy, right? And then... As she grows up and what made her so special, right? And then what happened? So a beginning, a middle, and an end, okay? I'm thinking 10, 15 minutes max, right? When you do that, I'll have it made into that movie, that short film, and we'll show it in every school in the country, okay?
How many times did you guys go through... the process of trying this psych medication and then that that didn't work or that didn't have a it did make her feel good and then went to the second one to try that and rule that one out and then go to the third did you have that experience yeah i'll tell you uh
How many times did you guys go through... the process of trying this psych medication and then that that didn't work or that didn't have a it did make her feel good and then went to the second one to try that and rule that one out and then go to the third did you have that experience yeah i'll tell you uh
think that's realistic okay well it's fentanyl awareness day so let's call it may june how's by july 1st so we can get this thing out let's call it uh september 1st okay huh good goal yeah you gotta set a goal yeah uh i think you know what that lines up well with everything here the beginning of the new school year
think that's realistic okay well it's fentanyl awareness day so let's call it may june how's by july 1st so we can get this thing out let's call it uh september 1st okay huh good goal yeah you gotta set a goal yeah uh i think you know what that lines up well with everything here the beginning of the new school year
All right. After you write this thing, you start dealing with your school people and let's get it in your area first. Yeah.
All right. After you write this thing, you start dealing with your school people and let's get it in your area first. Yeah.
And if they don't, what are we going to do, Dylan, if they don't do it? We'll make sure they do it. We'll make sure they do it. For sure. We will move accordingly. We will move accordingly.
And if they don't, what are we going to do, Dylan, if they don't do it? We'll make sure they do it. We'll make sure they do it. For sure. We will move accordingly. We will move accordingly.
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parent to think this cannot happen to their family to their kids they've simply forgotten what it's like to be a teenager it's not about me it's not about you it's about the lives that are going to be lost if we don't step up and do something now like you said we're out of time thank you for listening to the we're out of time podcast with richard tate if you haven't already please follow the podcast rate and review and if you're getting value out of we're out of time share it with someone else you know for fentanyl awareness day a special message from our new los angeles district attorney nathan hawkman
parent to think this cannot happen to their family to their kids they've simply forgotten what it's like to be a teenager it's not about me it's not about you it's about the lives that are going to be lost if we don't step up and do something now like you said we're out of time thank you for listening to the we're out of time podcast with richard tate if you haven't already please follow the podcast rate and review and if you're getting value out of we're out of time share it with someone else you know for fentanyl awareness day a special message from our new los angeles district attorney nathan hawkman
They're desensitized. I have a handful of doctors who have never lost the love.
They're desensitized. I have a handful of doctors who have never lost the love.
It's built for physical pain, but it works better on emotional pain. And the reason she was using that and why she would have continued to use that is because if that quiets the mind and you're telling yourself what a piece of garbage you are all day long, this is wrong with me, that's wrong with me, all this other stuff, and it quiets the mind, you're going to do that until the wheels fall off.
It's built for physical pain, but it works better on emotional pain. And the reason she was using that and why she would have continued to use that is because if that quiets the mind and you're telling yourself what a piece of garbage you are all day long, this is wrong with me, that's wrong with me, all this other stuff, and it quiets the mind, you're going to do that until the wheels fall off.
Was she scoring pills on the street prior to this? And if so, for how long?
Was she scoring pills on the street prior to this? And if so, for how long?
They found a bag with 10 other pills. So we don't know if she took half a pill or one pill and then...
They found a bag with 10 other pills. So we don't know if she took half a pill or one pill and then...
Whatever happened to ignorance of the law is no excuse. And he got nine years.
Whatever happened to ignorance of the law is no excuse. And he got nine years.
You won't be there to say, this is where my daughter would have been X years. you know, old, this guy's been doing this forever. He said right here, he knew what he was doing. You think my daughter's the only one? You can't, you're not going to do that? There's nothing that can add to his sentence. No, but you can keep them there an extra year and a half.
You won't be there to say, this is where my daughter would have been X years. you know, old, this guy's been doing this forever. He said right here, he knew what he was doing. You think my daughter's the only one? You can't, you're not going to do that? There's nothing that can add to his sentence. No, but you can keep them there an extra year and a half.
Good. This guy gets a job. You should be taking 25% of his salary for the rest of his life. Okay, but let's get into a couple things because I wanted to talk about them. The first thing I was reading today because the DA Nathan Hockman introduced us well before he was, um, uh, running for DA. He was running for, um, attorney general for attorney general state of California. That's right.
Good. This guy gets a job. You should be taking 25% of his salary for the rest of his life. Okay, but let's get into a couple things because I wanted to talk about them. The first thing I was reading today because the DA Nathan Hockman introduced us well before he was, um, uh, running for DA. He was running for, um, attorney general for attorney general state of California. That's right.
What the hell?
What the hell?
Whew.
Whew.
Dude, this is too easy.
Dude, this is too easy.
I'll see you next Tuesday.
I'll see you next Tuesday.
100%?
100%?
I love that.
I love that.
But your buddy, they try to whack you? Hell yeah, they try to charge me too much because they know who I am. Oh, that, like, uh-uh. Especially the Mundrian and all these, yeah, yeah. Right. I love you, Ado.
But your buddy, they try to whack you? Hell yeah, they try to charge me too much because they know who I am. Oh, that, like, uh-uh. Especially the Mundrian and all these, yeah, yeah. Right. I love you, Ado.
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You got kids?
You got kids?
Really? Yes. How far along is she? Seven weeks. Wife, girlfriend, fiance? Girlfriend. Really?
Really? Yes. How far along is she? Seven weeks. Wife, girlfriend, fiance? Girlfriend. Really?
How old is she? She is 30-something. Really? Yeah. See, she's getting in under the wire. You know, you got to have a kid, I think, now by 38 if you want to have a second child. Literally, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm not a baby doctor. We can call and ask my baby doctor, but... Do you have kids? I have two children. I talk to them about the fentanyl issue all the time.
How old is she? She is 30-something. Really? Yeah. See, she's getting in under the wire. You know, you got to have a kid, I think, now by 38 if you want to have a second child. Literally, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm not a baby doctor. We can call and ask my baby doctor, but... Do you have kids? I have two children. I talk to them about the fentanyl issue all the time.
I was taking my son to school the other day. I took him today too. I take my son to school the other day and he's getting out of the car. I start getting emotional. I said to him, I said, I need you for a minute. He says, yeah. I said, look, I know we've talked about this fentanyl thing and the vape thing because it's in the vapes now. Yeah. And all the drugs and pills and everything else.
I was taking my son to school the other day. I took him today too. I take my son to school the other day and he's getting out of the car. I start getting emotional. I said to him, I said, I need you for a minute. He says, yeah. I said, look, I know we've talked about this fentanyl thing and the vape thing because it's in the vapes now. Yeah. And all the drugs and pills and everything else.
But I just want you to know that at some point, because he just went into sixth grade. So now he's in middle school.
But I just want you to know that at some point, because he just went into sixth grade. So now he's in middle school.
Different.
Different.
And I said to him, I said, it's going to happen, babe. And let me tell you how it's going to happen. Somebody is going to walk up to you. and want you to participate in drugs, give you a pill and put peer pressure on you to do it. He says, I won't do it. I said, let me finish. Okay. The only reason they're doing that and bringing you into it is because they know it's wrong. For sure.
And I said to him, I said, it's going to happen, babe. And let me tell you how it's going to happen. Somebody is going to walk up to you. and want you to participate in drugs, give you a pill and put peer pressure on you to do it. He says, I won't do it. I said, let me finish. Okay. The only reason they're doing that and bringing you into it is because they know it's wrong. For sure.
And they know it's dangerous. And, but if they bring you in it, they feel a little less wrong because you're co-signing their, their behavior. Don't co-sign anybody's behavior, bro. Okay. I love you. Okay. This is not something I get over. Okay. Please. And he looks at me and he goes, I love you so much, daddy. And I was like, you know, I must've had this conversation. That's beautiful.
And they know it's dangerous. And, but if they bring you in it, they feel a little less wrong because you're co-signing their, their behavior. Don't co-sign anybody's behavior, bro. Okay. I love you. Okay. This is not something I get over. Okay. Please. And he looks at me and he goes, I love you so much, daddy. And I was like, you know, I must've had this conversation. That's beautiful.
Dude, I left and I cried for about half the way home from school because I'm just so scared, not just for me, but for you and for the parents that lost their child and the children that That were left without a father. And it's just, it's too much, dude. It's, it's why I came back to work and it's why I started doing this, you know?
Dude, I left and I cried for about half the way home from school because I'm just so scared, not just for me, but for you and for the parents that lost their child and the children that That were left without a father. And it's just, it's too much, dude. It's, it's why I came back to work and it's why I started doing this, you know?
Dude, don't, please. We don't have to get into it. I can't. I don't even have an ear for it. Where else are your gigs? You just got back from Spain. Who'd you play with by the way there?
Dude, don't, please. We don't have to get into it. I can't. I don't even have an ear for it. Where else are your gigs? You just got back from Spain. Who'd you play with by the way there?
And, you know, I'm just grateful to you for showing up because this, this is taking, this is killing everybody.
And, you know, I'm just grateful to you for showing up because this, this is taking, this is killing everybody.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I just don't even understand.
I just don't even understand.
We don't let our kids have social media. My daughter's 14 years old. And it's like, she's on TikTok all the time. She's like, can I, you know, I think she might have something that's private with like, I don't know, just a group of friends. Right. But, you know, social media is tough, man. And people are so mean.
We don't let our kids have social media. My daughter's 14 years old. And it's like, she's on TikTok all the time. She's like, can I, you know, I think she might have something that's private with like, I don't know, just a group of friends. Right. But, you know, social media is tough, man. And people are so mean.
I had that same problem when I was a kid. I had a model, right? My father. And what I gleaned from that was... I treated people shabbily. to make myself feel good. I didn't know another way, right? And later on in life with therapy and I went to AA, right? In my early sobriety, I learned that's not the way you do it, right?
I had that same problem when I was a kid. I had a model, right? My father. And what I gleaned from that was... I treated people shabbily. to make myself feel good. I didn't know another way, right? And later on in life with therapy and I went to AA, right? In my early sobriety, I learned that's not the way you do it, right?
I don't need to make you feel small to make myself feel big, but I didn't know. I love that. Yeah, so- Yeah, dude, that's a parent thing. That is definitely a parent thing.
I don't need to make you feel small to make myself feel big, but I didn't know. I love that. Yeah, so- Yeah, dude, that's a parent thing. That is definitely a parent thing.
If the model is shitty though, you come out shitty. Unfortunately, that is the case. You know anybody right now that is struggling with drug addiction. Because I was really bad, bro. Let me just start with this. I was smoking crack. I'm a buck 90 right now. I was a buck 47. All my teeth are cracked, right? I'm pale, but I've got a greenish, not greenish, a grayish tone to me, right?
If the model is shitty though, you come out shitty. Unfortunately, that is the case. You know anybody right now that is struggling with drug addiction. Because I was really bad, bro. Let me just start with this. I was smoking crack. I'm a buck 90 right now. I was a buck 47. All my teeth are cracked, right? I'm pale, but I've got a greenish, not greenish, a grayish tone to me, right?
I'm 147 pounds dripping wet. And I'm smoking between six and eight days straight at a time. All the time. Taking a Big Mac once a week just to keep myself alive. Now, that's the way I used. Okay? You know anybody... It's hard to find people who are using like that anymore. But because they usually die before they get to six or eight days.
I'm 147 pounds dripping wet. And I'm smoking between six and eight days straight at a time. All the time. Taking a Big Mac once a week just to keep myself alive. Now, that's the way I used. Okay? You know anybody... It's hard to find people who are using like that anymore. But because they usually die before they get to six or eight days.
Good for you, man.
Good for you, man.
Now we're in a different, now we're out of time.
Now we're in a different, now we're out of time.
So now if somebody's using drugs- Yeah. Okay. it you know their their their um their covers need to be pulled because there's somebody's kid there's somebody's parent for sure right and we're losing everybody right so that's that's the thing there but i love what you said what made you um stop um and change your life from using drugs oh dude the life I was living was exhausting.
So now if somebody's using drugs- Yeah. Okay. it you know their their their um their covers need to be pulled because there's somebody's kid there's somebody's parent for sure right and we're losing everybody right so that's that's the thing there but i love what you said what made you um stop um and change your life from using drugs oh dude the life I was living was exhausting.
So, your name is Apollo. Apollo Liberace, yes sir. Apollo, but that's with all the ice, right?
So, your name is Apollo. Apollo Liberace, yes sir. Apollo, but that's with all the ice, right?
Just exhausting. I mean, first of all, You have to buy an ounce of cocaine every day because you can't just go buy a kilo.
Just exhausting. I mean, first of all, You have to buy an ounce of cocaine every day because you can't just go buy a kilo.
It's a hassle because you have to get an ounce of cocaine every single day.
It's a hassle because you have to get an ounce of cocaine every single day.
Okay. It's just nasty. It's all nasty. It's exhausting. It's nasty. And that was my story. Dude, you know how good that is that you've set a healthy boundary for yourself where that's just not you're going to deal with.
Okay. It's just nasty. It's all nasty. It's exhausting. It's nasty. And that was my story. Dude, you know how good that is that you've set a healthy boundary for yourself where that's just not you're going to deal with.
Okay, tell me about your old man.
Okay, tell me about your old man.
Your old man had the same conversation with you that I had with my son the other morning.
Your old man had the same conversation with you that I had with my son the other morning.
Well, he probably won't remember that. he'll remember one of the 30 or 40 or 50 times that we've had the conversation.
Well, he probably won't remember that. he'll remember one of the 30 or 40 or 50 times that we've had the conversation.
Tell me about the TV show.
Tell me about the TV show.
How's it doing?
How's it doing?
That is cool.
That is cool.
And what have you done on the show that's been memorable that you'll remember?
And what have you done on the show that's been memorable that you'll remember?
That ain't a little thing. That's in-show advertising. That's in show. That's not like, you know, you're running a commercial and people like that and they fast forward through it. Literally. Right.
That ain't a little thing. That's in-show advertising. That's in show. That's not like, you know, you're running a commercial and people like that and they fast forward through it. Literally. Right.
We got a hotel. We're going to get into that story. Because I want to hear that story.
We got a hotel. We're going to get into that story. Because I want to hear that story.
So you're living in North Hollywood. Okay. Things are good. You've been okay financially now.
So you're living in North Hollywood. Okay. Things are good. You've been okay financially now.
I've never been an ass sucker. Nobody wants to be called an ass sucker.
I've never been an ass sucker. Nobody wants to be called an ass sucker.
Okay. For many years.
Okay. For many years.
Okay. When you look back at, Your time being homeless. Yeah. Okay. Because you don't use that word, but you're doing that for four years. Yeah. Right. How was that experience going through that whole four years where you're just eating a sandwich chasing a dream?
Okay. When you look back at, Your time being homeless. Yeah. Okay. Because you don't use that word, but you're doing that for four years. Yeah. Right. How was that experience going through that whole four years where you're just eating a sandwich chasing a dream?
Because... Dude, I know exactly what you mean.
Because... Dude, I know exactly what you mean.
That's your song?
That's your song?
Okay.
Okay.
Yeah, you're going to do it. Do you know why you're going to do it? You're going to do it because you've cut off every other possibility.
Yeah, you're going to do it. Do you know why you're going to do it? You're going to do it because you've cut off every other possibility.
There's no discussion. There's no debate. You've thanked God in advance. And that's just happening, okay? And when you go through four years of being a homeless, and now you got your own pad, you're all iced up, which I don't care about. But you have a career and a following and an influence over others for positive, not always, always. And, um, there's no way you're not going to hit it up.
There's no discussion. There's no debate. You've thanked God in advance. And that's just happening, okay? And when you go through four years of being a homeless, and now you got your own pad, you're all iced up, which I don't care about. But you have a career and a following and an influence over others for positive, not always, always. And, um, there's no way you're not going to hit it up.
I think you're the fifth rapper. I like that. That I've interviewed. And the reason I picked you guys more than anybody. Talk to me. It's it's fentanyl and accidental overdoses are killing the kids today. And it's prevalent in your scene, right? The underground rap scene. So that's why I started it in the first place. Yeah. Right. But I'm watching last night. We did something with Dusty.
I think you're the fifth rapper. I like that. That I've interviewed. And the reason I picked you guys more than anybody. Talk to me. It's it's fentanyl and accidental overdoses are killing the kids today. And it's prevalent in your scene, right? The underground rap scene. So that's why I started it in the first place. Yeah. Right. But I'm watching last night. We did something with Dusty.
Well, I appreciate that. There's no way. It's not possible. That means a lot. You saying that is a little extra drive for me. You have that type of resiliency, right? And then you have a singleness of purpose to the point where you're in an environment where 99% of the people are getting loaded all day long and you're walking through straight as an arrow, right?
Well, I appreciate that. There's no way. It's not possible. That means a lot. You saying that is a little extra drive for me. You have that type of resiliency, right? And then you have a singleness of purpose to the point where you're in an environment where 99% of the people are getting loaded all day long and you're walking through straight as an arrow, right?
L.A.
L.A.
No, no, no, no. The best, I have a rule. Okay. The first hundred people that we hired at Carrera were by invitation only. Think about that. Wow. Only by, you had to have the best soul ever ever. Because that's my thing. Love's my thing. Love, empathy, safety, containment, respect, attunement to one's needs before they know they have one, right?
No, no, no, no. The best, I have a rule. Okay. The first hundred people that we hired at Carrera were by invitation only. Think about that. Wow. Only by, you had to have the best soul ever ever. Because that's my thing. Love's my thing. Love, empathy, safety, containment, respect, attunement to one's needs before they know they have one, right?
If somebody has to ask for some shit that they knew that they were going to be asking for and they didn't bring it to them, I'm pissed. like violently pissed.
If somebody has to ask for some shit that they knew that they were going to be asking for and they didn't bring it to them, I'm pissed. like violently pissed.
think about doing them like that's just ridiculous like it's not things it's like like my prayers used to be when i was doing drugs like yeah of course i want things to i don't know what you mean i want things to like so i can help my family and yeah i ask for those things for sure dude i would just say god i know you're disappointed with me yeah right um please just help me stay safe Right.
think about doing them like that's just ridiculous like it's not things it's like like my prayers used to be when i was doing drugs like yeah of course i want things to i don't know what you mean i want things to like so i can help my family and yeah i ask for those things for sure dude i would just say god i know you're disappointed with me yeah right um please just help me stay safe Right.
And enjoy this run. And when it's over, we'll, we'll try again. Okay. Yeah. And then I'd say, what I always say is thank you, God. I love you. Amen. Right. And so I was not like you. Yeah. I was not like, Oh, tomorrow's going to be a better. Yeah. No, I didn't see any better days in front of me, but I knew I was covered. I knew that because of my connection, I knew I wouldn't be thrown away.
And enjoy this run. And when it's over, we'll, we'll try again. Okay. Yeah. And then I'd say, what I always say is thank you, God. I love you. Amen. Right. And so I was not like you. Yeah. I was not like, Oh, tomorrow's going to be a better. Yeah. No, I didn't see any better days in front of me, but I knew I was covered. I knew that because of my connection, I knew I wouldn't be thrown away.
Now, I didn't know what use I had in the world. I didn't know how I'd be useful. Because I think that life is about being of maximum service to God and to your fellow man. I just believe that people that come through the hardest of times.
Now, I didn't know what use I had in the world. I didn't know how I'd be useful. Because I think that life is about being of maximum service to God and to your fellow man. I just believe that people that come through the hardest of times.
Are tough. Like, you know, a hundred percent. Yeah. They just toughen up. Yeah. What you went through is just like another level. Well, dude, I didn't know any better.
Are tough. Like, you know, a hundred percent. Yeah. They just toughen up. Yeah. What you went through is just like another level. Well, dude, I didn't know any better.
I was raised by wolves. Facts. I mean, I didn't know. I mean, you're old man and you have the, and that's the thing.
I was raised by wolves. Facts. I mean, I didn't know. I mean, you're old man and you have the, and that's the thing.
And, and like, why he, Because he was, he didn't have any cash either. He was, he was hard up too at that time.
And, and like, why he, Because he was, he didn't have any cash either. He was, he was hard up too at that time.
I love you.
I love you.
Do you know Dusty?
Do you know Dusty?
I gotta tell you something.
I gotta tell you something.
So I'm watching the tape last night. the raw footage. And I looked at Dylan and I go, dude, have you ever seen me happier and more comfortable in your life? And we watched the others earlier that week, this week. And same thing. I'm just happy. It's like, you know, there's something about like rappers that I just gravitate to. I love that.
So I'm watching the tape last night. the raw footage. And I looked at Dylan and I go, dude, have you ever seen me happier and more comfortable in your life? And we watched the others earlier that week, this week. And same thing. I'm just happy. It's like, you know, there's something about like rappers that I just gravitate to. I love that.
just even having that is i can't complain with my life you know i have both parents that are there for me so your dad did the same thing for you that i would have done for my kid you'd have been like listen i'm going here and like yeah i'm going there too now i've just dropped everything if you want to sleep in a car i would have slept it makes the story like
just even having that is i can't complain with my life you know i have both parents that are there for me so your dad did the same thing for you that i would have done for my kid you'd have been like listen i'm going here and like yeah i'm going there too now i've just dropped everything if you want to sleep in a car i would have slept it makes the story like
Well, what it makes is it means that the reason you are the way you are is because you had good parents and they put you first. Your father cannot love another human being more than he loves you. There's just no way. Do you have any brothers and sisters?
Well, what it makes is it means that the reason you are the way you are is because you had good parents and they put you first. Your father cannot love another human being more than he loves you. There's just no way. Do you have any brothers and sisters?
Really? Is he very close with the sisters too?
Really? Is he very close with the sisters too?
He's still talking to your mom?
He's still talking to your mom?
You made the complete repair?
You made the complete repair?
Does your dad live with you? Does he live with me now?
Does your dad live with you? Does he live with me now?
Oh, wow. That's shocking. I thought that you're... Like, when my kids leave the house, I'm going with them.
Oh, wow. That's shocking. I thought that you're... Like, when my kids leave the house, I'm going with them.
No, no, no. I'm going with them. It's like, this one will go to New York.
No, no, no. I'm going with them. It's like, this one will go to New York.
That's in Atlanta, right?
That's in Atlanta, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
And you all live in kind of the same complex.
And you all live in kind of the same complex.
That's a night. You know who does that? The people in Italy. When I told my guide, I said, hey- I don't want to see any of this tourist bullshit. Because at the end of the day, that's your tribe. That's your tribe. Do you know these guys? He brought me to the countryside. I'm like, where do you live? He goes, countryside. I said, take me there. Beautiful. He goes, my house?
That's a night. You know who does that? The people in Italy. When I told my guide, I said, hey- I don't want to see any of this tourist bullshit. Because at the end of the day, that's your tribe. That's your tribe. Do you know these guys? He brought me to the countryside. I'm like, where do you live? He goes, countryside. I said, take me there. Beautiful. He goes, my house?
I said, yeah, bro, to your house. Your house. Okay. So he takes me to his house. He lives on the bottom floor. Other family members live on the second and the third and the fourth. And his grandfather, who built the thing, lives on the top.
I said, yeah, bro, to your house. Your house. Okay. So he takes me to his house. He lives on the bottom floor. Other family members live on the second and the third and the fourth. And his grandfather, who built the thing, lives on the top.
And they all live together and they have lunch every day and dinner every night. We all eat dinner together. That's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
And they all live together and they have lunch every day and dinner every night. We all eat dinner together. That's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
Is he in LA?
Is he in LA?
You must talk to your old man every day.
You must talk to your old man every day.
Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
I need to ask you for a favor. Yes, sir. Anything you need. I need you to look into that camera right there. And I need you to say, see you next Tuesday.
I need to ask you for a favor. Yes, sir. Anything you need. I need you to look into that camera right there. And I need you to say, see you next Tuesday.
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And I don't even, and I don't even listen to music anymore, dude. Me either, which is, I make music. How do you not listen to music and you're a rapper?
And I don't even, and I don't even listen to music anymore, dude. Me either, which is, I make music. How do you not listen to music and you're a rapper?
You write your own shit?
You write your own shit?
But I thought the new way to create music is with no instruments. Yes.
But I thought the new way to create music is with no instruments. Yes.
Are you willing to do something acapella right now?
Are you willing to do something acapella right now?
Don't you want to find one guy? Yeah. every once in a while, like a famous producer, like a Rick Rubin. Yeah, exactly. Or something like that, right? Where you would have them knock you out one every once in a while.
Don't you want to find one guy? Yeah. every once in a while, like a famous producer, like a Rick Rubin. Yeah, exactly. Or something like that, right? Where you would have them knock you out one every once in a while.
It was 3,000. Really? Yeah. 3,000. And you rocked the house. Insane. Insane. Do they know the words to your songs?
It was 3,000. Really? Yeah. 3,000. And you rocked the house. Insane. Insane. Do they know the words to your songs?
So where do you put it? Where do you have these songs?
So where do you put it? Where do you have these songs?
So you moved around a lot because your mom was in the military.
So you moved around a lot because your mom was in the military.
Dude, that's my biggest regret. My single biggest regret is not going into the military.
Dude, that's my biggest regret. My single biggest regret is not going into the military.
Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I would have either been a four-star general or I'd been thrown out on my ass. No in between.
Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I would have either been a four-star general or I'd been thrown out on my ass. No in between.
Right. For sure. So, listen, you're not smoking a lot of pot, but you're around people.
Right. For sure. So, listen, you're not smoking a lot of pot, but you're around people.
Who are smoking all day long.
Who are smoking all day long.
It's part of the... It's part of the culture. Yeah. I get it. Okay. But what about like... Fentanyl, the Fentanyl death. So is that happening? Do you know any people who have dropped from Fentanyl?
It's part of the... It's part of the culture. Yeah. I get it. Okay. But what about like... Fentanyl, the Fentanyl death. So is that happening? Do you know any people who have dropped from Fentanyl?
Anybody you were close with?
Anybody you were close with?
Okay. But how long ago was that?
Okay. But how long ago was that?
Okay, so then we can assume that there was fentanyl in it.
Okay, so then we can assume that there was fentanyl in it.
You don't get heroin from a pharmacy and they're all stepping on it.
You don't get heroin from a pharmacy and they're all stepping on it.
You can't do cocaine anymore. You literally can't. No, you can't do cocaine. You can't do heroin. Okay. Dude, the cocaine was at least 70% pure then. Well, it was always pure for me because I was rocking it up and smoking it. Love it. But, well, not really.
You can't do cocaine anymore. You literally can't. No, you can't do cocaine. You can't do heroin. Okay. Dude, the cocaine was at least 70% pure then. Well, it was always pure for me because I was rocking it up and smoking it. Love it. But, well, not really.
Dude, I used to walk in with an ounce of cocaine, walk over, grab that off, throw it in there, walk down the aisle, grab some baking soda, throw it in there, walk over to the soda machine and do bang, bang with the water, stir it like this, take a bunch of napkins, put it on this push number seven, I think it was, on the microwave, get out, grab the ice, put it in my mouth,
Dude, I used to walk in with an ounce of cocaine, walk over, grab that off, throw it in there, walk down the aisle, grab some baking soda, throw it in there, walk over to the soda machine and do bang, bang with the water, stir it like this, take a bunch of napkins, put it on this push number seven, I think it was, on the microwave, get out, grab the ice, put it in my mouth,
everything that's been going on has been worth it. I just want to thank you for coming by today on short notice. Yeah. Your energy is so good that you just, even, you're, dude, you're the best.
everything that's been going on has been worth it. I just want to thank you for coming by today on short notice. Yeah. Your energy is so good that you just, even, you're, dude, you're the best.
crash it up, put it in there, do this, walk out, throw 20 bucks on the counter in under a minute. People didn't even know what was going on. I once did it with a cop in the store. Jesus. Well, I needed to get high.
crash it up, put it in there, do this, walk out, throw 20 bucks on the counter in under a minute. People didn't even know what was going on. I once did it with a cop in the store. Jesus. Well, I needed to get high.
Right. But fast, right? The reason I've got you on here.
Right. But fast, right? The reason I've got you on here.
Is you got, how many followers you got on Instagram? Oh,
Is you got, how many followers you got on Instagram? Oh,
Okay, so you got 500,000. Okay. Kids are going to listen to you, right? Nobody's going to listen to me.
Okay, so you got 500,000. Okay. Kids are going to listen to you, right? Nobody's going to listen to me.
Does he have parents that are still alive?
Does he have parents that are still alive?
That family is never going to be the same.
That family is never going to be the same.
They're destroyed. How could you recover? They're completely destroyed. And the children are never going to be, the children are damaged forever.
They're destroyed. How could you recover? They're completely destroyed. And the children are never going to be, the children are damaged forever.
Now, let me ask you a question. Then you went and bought the farm.
Now, let me ask you a question. Then you went and bought the farm.
You still have the farm? I still have the farm. What are you using the farm for? Nothing right now. It's just sitting there. Yeah, so I got to teach you something, right? I got to teach you something because I made that same mistake. And then my buddy Charlie told me something. I had 10 homes. And they were almost all sitting empty. And he looked at me. Really the same way? That's right.
You still have the farm? I still have the farm. What are you using the farm for? Nothing right now. It's just sitting there. Yeah, so I got to teach you something, right? I got to teach you something because I made that same mistake. And then my buddy Charlie told me something. I had 10 homes. And they were almost all sitting empty. And he looked at me. Really the same way? That's right.
And he looked at me and he said, hey, listen to me. Abundance good, excess bad. Every home has to have a purpose. Now for me, that was like a spiritual experience. Right. Right? You don't know what you don't know. So. I'm like, what do you mean? And he said, well, you live in a house. Your children live in another house with their ex. You have to do something with these other homes.
And he looked at me and he said, hey, listen to me. Abundance good, excess bad. Every home has to have a purpose. Now for me, that was like a spiritual experience. Right. Right? You don't know what you don't know. So. I'm like, what do you mean? And he said, well, you live in a house. Your children live in another house with their ex. You have to do something with these other homes.
So I rented out six of them, now seven today. Okay. Seven homes. Okay. And now there's nine, right? And my home and the family home, right? But every home has a purpose, right? Seven of them are returning income, right? And two of them we need to live. Every home has to have a purpose, right? you have to figure out what to do with that farm.
So I rented out six of them, now seven today. Okay. Seven homes. Okay. And now there's nine, right? And my home and the family home, right? But every home has a purpose, right? Seven of them are returning income, right? And two of them we need to live. Every home has to have a purpose, right? you have to figure out what to do with that farm.
And if you want help with that when this thing's over, we'll talk about that. We'll find some ideas for that.
And if you want help with that when this thing's over, we'll talk about that. We'll find some ideas for that.
You're bleeding money. You're not creating eggs. You're not creating vegetables. You haven't rented it out. And you're paying property tax, you're paying insurance, and you're paying a mortgage. So right now, you're getting your ass kicked. I am. For no reason. Okay? Now, you're a star player because you got a farm.
You're bleeding money. You're not creating eggs. You're not creating vegetables. You haven't rented it out. And you're paying property tax, you're paying insurance, and you're paying a mortgage. So right now, you're getting your ass kicked. I am. For no reason. Okay? Now, you're a star player because you got a farm.
Yeah. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Okay, that's good. But you don't need a whole farm for that. You put a chicken coop in the backyard of... Yeah, yeah, that's true. I got goats.
Yeah. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Okay, that's good. But you don't need a whole farm for that. You put a chicken coop in the backyard of... Yeah, yeah, that's true. I got goats.
So let's talk about your drug use because you love your grandmother. Okay, and your grandmother is in love with her baby boy. That is for sure. You said you're still doing drugs. Okay, now I know you're smoking weed, but let's put that aside. Let me just ask one thing about the weed. Yeah, you make me emotional. Why, buddy? What made you emotional? What part of it?
So let's talk about your drug use because you love your grandmother. Okay, and your grandmother is in love with her baby boy. That is for sure. You said you're still doing drugs. Okay, now I know you're smoking weed, but let's put that aside. Let me just ask one thing about the weed. Yeah, you make me emotional. Why, buddy? What made you emotional? What part of it?
Where was your mother?
Where was your mother?
or what the drugs are doing to your grandmother. Yeah, that's what it is. That's right. Now, What drugs... Forget the weed right now for a minute. As long as you're getting weed at the dispensary, you're not going to die. They're putting fentanyl on the weed now, dude. On the street. Where the f*** could they sell weed on the street if there wasn't fentanyl in it?
or what the drugs are doing to your grandmother. Yeah, that's what it is. That's right. Now, What drugs... Forget the weed right now for a minute. As long as you're getting weed at the dispensary, you're not going to die. They're putting fentanyl on the weed now, dude. On the street. Where the f*** could they sell weed on the street if there wasn't fentanyl in it?
Or it wasn't laced with something that makes no sense at all.
Or it wasn't laced with something that makes no sense at all.
Anybody can walk into a dispensary. Okay? It's like legal. Right. Okay? So, that's... just don't buy it on the street. But what are you, what are you doing now?
Anybody can walk into a dispensary. Okay? It's like legal. Right. Okay? So, that's... just don't buy it on the street. But what are you, what are you doing now?
You know, do you know why that is? How long have you been doing it?
You know, do you know why that is? How long have you been doing it?
Oh, yeah, I do. I'm pretty certain I know the reason. And by pretty certain, I mean certain-cert. The reason you can't get sober or get off that, forget sober, the reason you can't get off the lean is because there are opioids. And if you do it every day for longer than five to seven days, you don't have it anymore. It's got you. So physically, you need it.
Oh, yeah, I do. I'm pretty certain I know the reason. And by pretty certain, I mean certain-cert. The reason you can't get sober or get off that, forget sober, the reason you can't get off the lean is because there are opioids. And if you do it every day for longer than five to seven days, you don't have it anymore. It's got you. So physically, you need it.
Of course, because you're a baby at 15. But why wasn't she living at home with her parents and you?
Of course, because you're a baby at 15. But why wasn't she living at home with her parents and you?
Because if you don't have it, you're going to get sick. Violently sick. You know that, right? Yeah. Okay. You want to stop doing it? Yeah. Well, you know what I do for a living, right? I mean... What do I do for a living?
Because if you don't have it, you're going to get sick. Violently sick. You know that, right? Yeah. Okay. You want to stop doing it? Yeah. Well, you know what I do for a living, right? I mean... What do I do for a living?
That's right. I get people off drugs. But anybody can get people off drugs. I keep people off drugs. That's the difference. So, you want to go into treatment today? Oh, you didn't see that coming, huh? You're on glue. What'd you think, man? I was going to let some guy in here dependent and sick, right? And just not go, oh, hey, see you later, dude. Good luck.
That's right. I get people off drugs. But anybody can get people off drugs. I keep people off drugs. That's the difference. So, you want to go into treatment today? Oh, you didn't see that coming, huh? You're on glue. What'd you think, man? I was going to let some guy in here dependent and sick, right? And just not go, oh, hey, see you later, dude. Good luck.
You're going today. You're going to get well today. And you're never going to have to live like this again. Not ever. Not ever again. And as long as you don't pick up again, you're never going to need it again and you're never going to be a slave to it. Slavery ended in 1865. Okay? But you're a slave to drugs.
You're going today. You're going to get well today. And you're never going to have to live like this again. Not ever. Not ever again. And as long as you don't pick up again, you're never going to need it again and you're never going to be a slave to it. Slavery ended in 1865. Okay? But you're a slave to drugs.
Yeah. the best laid plans go completely awry okay your intentions are honorable you want to get off of it it's not your fault that you can't nobody can nobody because people who stop doing what you're doing cold turkey they can die
Yeah. the best laid plans go completely awry okay your intentions are honorable you want to get off of it it's not your fault that you can't nobody can nobody because people who stop doing what you're doing cold turkey they can die
from the detox right and depending on how long you've been doing it and how much you're doing it okay that's going to tell you pretty much whether or not you're going to drop and i didn't ask you those questions yet but i don't need to you're going to be assessed okay by nurses and doctors and you'll be fine okay you'll be fine you got health insurance Really?
from the detox right and depending on how long you've been doing it and how much you're doing it okay that's going to tell you pretty much whether or not you're going to drop and i didn't ask you those questions yet but i don't need to you're going to be assessed okay by nurses and doctors and you'll be fine okay you'll be fine you got health insurance Really?
What kind of health insurance you got?
What kind of health insurance you got?
But the good news is, is you get to come to treatment anywhere you want.
But the good news is, is you get to come to treatment anywhere you want.
You're going to make me start crying. Fuck. Your grandparents proud of you?
You're going to make me start crying. Fuck. Your grandparents proud of you?
You are? Yeah. Oh, you think you're moving on the 15th? That sucks. Huh? You're moving today. You're moving into treatment today. You ain't moving on the 15th. You said you want to go to treatment today. What?
You are? Yeah. Oh, you think you're moving on the 15th? That sucks. Huh? You're moving today. You're moving into treatment today. You ain't moving on the 15th. You said you want to go to treatment today. What?
You love her? Yes. She on the pills? She on the lean? No. She do any of that? Only smoke. Only smoke. How does she feel about it?
You love her? Yes. She on the pills? She on the lean? No. She do any of that? Only smoke. Only smoke. How does she feel about it?
Smoking hot, right? Yes. Yeah, bro. You're going. You want to go. And you're going to go. You're going to have a good life. and we'll talk about it off air. We don't need to do this whole thing here, but you're going to go. You love it. You want a life, okay? Your grandmother is in love with you. Your girlfriend's in love with you, and the most important thing is you've got a child.
Smoking hot, right? Yes. Yeah, bro. You're going. You want to go. And you're going to go. You're going to have a good life. and we'll talk about it off air. We don't need to do this whole thing here, but you're going to go. You love it. You want a life, okay? Your grandmother is in love with you. Your girlfriend's in love with you, and the most important thing is you've got a child.
How old is your child?
How old is your child?
Dude, you're missing it. You're missing it. The best time with my kids was between two and a half and six. You got another year that you're never getting back. You better be clear for that because you want to remember it. You really do. Okay. I mean, this is the best time of your life right now on my life. This child, when you're with this child, is there anywhere you'd rather be?
Dude, you're missing it. You're missing it. The best time with my kids was between two and a half and six. You got another year that you're never getting back. You better be clear for that because you want to remember it. You really do. Okay. I mean, this is the best time of your life right now on my life. This child, when you're with this child, is there anywhere you'd rather be?
You guys live together or no?
You guys live together or no?
How often do you see your boy?
How often do you see your boy?
Really? God, that's so good. Where is he now?
Really? God, that's so good. Where is he now?
How long have you been here?
How long have you been here?
If you're going to be here, you got to move her out.
If you're going to be here, you got to move her out.
You cannot be away from your child. Sorry, man.
You cannot be away from your child. Sorry, man.
Different mothers?
Different mothers?
Same mother. And do you have her the majority of the time or no?
Same mother. And do you have her the majority of the time or no?
Do not. You will never forgive yourself. And then you won't stop doing these opioids. And the reason you're not going to stop doing it is because it works. They call them painkillers for a reason. It works better on emotional pain.
Do not. You will never forgive yourself. And then you won't stop doing these opioids. And the reason you're not going to stop doing it is because it works. They call them painkillers for a reason. It works better on emotional pain.
than it does on physical pain physical pain I take four Advil and two extra strength Tylenol and I'm as good as you can be right okay but for emotional pain the pain you're in and the pain that you're gonna be in if you do this that's what the lean is for the lean is for so you don't have to feel and fall apart I swear to God, dude. I'm wrong about a lot of things.
than it does on physical pain physical pain I take four Advil and two extra strength Tylenol and I'm as good as you can be right okay but for emotional pain the pain you're in and the pain that you're gonna be in if you do this that's what the lean is for the lean is for so you don't have to feel and fall apart I swear to God, dude. I'm wrong about a lot of things.
Not if I'm opening my mouth about stuff like this, I'm not. But it's the only thing I know, so... If I wasn't good at this, I'd have no value at all. You know? You're not going to have to live like this anymore, I promise. You're not.
Not if I'm opening my mouth about stuff like this, I'm not. But it's the only thing I know, so... If I wasn't good at this, I'd have no value at all. You know? You're not going to have to live like this anymore, I promise. You're not.
Congratulations, bro. Congrats.
Congratulations, bro. Congrats.
Congrats, man. Good.
Congrats, man. Good.
Listen, there are a lot of people that hide the ball when it comes to financial literacy. I'm not one of them. It's one of the reasons I love talking to the underground rap scene. They have no clue about it. And I definitely, I'm begging to teach them. Because... I've made so many mistakes and I want to make certain that others don't make them because a lot of people don't come back from it.
Listen, there are a lot of people that hide the ball when it comes to financial literacy. I'm not one of them. It's one of the reasons I love talking to the underground rap scene. They have no clue about it. And I definitely, I'm begging to teach them. Because... I've made so many mistakes and I want to make certain that others don't make them because a lot of people don't come back from it.
Now, I did, but I don't know if I'm lucky or gritty or resilient or whatever, but you want to be financially literate. Now, what I would do with my money, okay, is the first thing I would do is put it with a wealth manager. Okay. And they'll give you 5% in a special account, right? Something like that. Now that's not a lot of money, but think about it.
Now, I did, but I don't know if I'm lucky or gritty or resilient or whatever, but you want to be financially literate. Now, what I would do with my money, okay, is the first thing I would do is put it with a wealth manager. Okay. And they'll give you 5% in a special account, right? Something like that. Now that's not a lot of money, but think about it.
Let's say you have a million dollars and you're making 5%. Okay, that is 50,000 bucks a year. And you're like, wait a minute, 5%, that's nothing. Excellent. However, you have to put your money away somewhere. Okay, that's generating interest until you know what to do with it. What would I do with it? I would start dollar cost averaging.
Let's say you have a million dollars and you're making 5%. Okay, that is 50,000 bucks a year. And you're like, wait a minute, 5%, that's nothing. Excellent. However, you have to put your money away somewhere. Okay, that's generating interest until you know what to do with it. What would I do with it? I would start dollar cost averaging.
That means put in a small amount of money every single month into index funds. So it would follow the NASDAQ and the S&P 500 and the Dow Dow. Okay. And these three different exchanges, when you put it in over time, now you're going to probably get like 11% over time. Yeah. But it compounds on itself. It compounds on itself. You got a phone? Yeah. Open the phone. Okay.
That means put in a small amount of money every single month into index funds. So it would follow the NASDAQ and the S&P 500 and the Dow Dow. Okay. And these three different exchanges, when you put it in over time, now you're going to probably get like 11% over time. Yeah. But it compounds on itself. It compounds on itself. You got a phone? Yeah. Open the phone. Okay.
It's called compounding interest. Right? And all that means is my money's working for me. I ain't working for it. Okay? And you leave it there. And you leave it there over time. This is money that you're putting aside. And if you're working, you're putting aside whatever you can afford. Now, it has to be at least 10%. Okay? If you make...
It's called compounding interest. Right? And all that means is my money's working for me. I ain't working for it. Okay? And you leave it there. And you leave it there over time. This is money that you're putting aside. And if you're working, you're putting aside whatever you can afford. Now, it has to be at least 10%. Okay? If you make...
10 grand a month and you only need five uh five grand a month to survive okay you gotta put away 10% and save the rest for a rainy day taxes whatever okay but you have to put that money aside if you only need three grand a month okay then you have to put the rest away okay because you only want to spend what you need right okay this is so exciting Are you excited?
10 grand a month and you only need five uh five grand a month to survive okay you gotta put away 10% and save the rest for a rainy day taxes whatever okay but you have to put that money aside if you only need three grand a month okay then you have to put the rest away okay because you only want to spend what you need right okay this is so exciting Are you excited?
Hey, buddy. Add 10 years to that for a total of 40.
Hey, buddy. Add 10 years to that for a total of 40.
Whatever. This is the way elegant men live. And you, sir, are an elegant man. I don't give a shit what fighting or how many violent exchanges you had. That's just part of what got you to right here, right now. And the only thing in life that matters is right here, right now. Because when you get to there and then, it's right here and right now, isn't it?
Whatever. This is the way elegant men live. And you, sir, are an elegant man. I don't give a shit what fighting or how many violent exchanges you had. That's just part of what got you to right here, right now. And the only thing in life that matters is right here, right now. Because when you get to there and then, it's right here and right now, isn't it?
Off a million bucks and never putting in another dollar. Go find, go bust your, put a million dollars in dollar cost average on those three things. Every month you put in more money. Okay? And just forget about it. Because this is history. This is the history of our country. It ain't changing. Okay? That's what you want, big boy.
Off a million bucks and never putting in another dollar. Go find, go bust your, put a million dollars in dollar cost average on those three things. Every month you put in more money. Okay? And just forget about it. Because this is history. This is the history of our country. It ain't changing. Okay? That's what you want, big boy.
We definitely gonna... Now, what you want to do is you want to start working all the time. Putting as much money away as you can because time matters. You saw the difference between 20 and 30 years. It was $43 million. Now, your first 30 was only 22. How the hell for another 10 do you get three times? Well, the way you do it is it's the magic of compounding interest.
We definitely gonna... Now, what you want to do is you want to start working all the time. Putting as much money away as you can because time matters. You saw the difference between 20 and 30 years. It was $43 million. Now, your first 30 was only 22. How the hell for another 10 do you get three times? Well, the way you do it is it's the magic of compounding interest.
So what you want to do is you want to If you've got 50 grand now, put the 50 grand in now and then just keep doing it over time. Because if you wait till you have a million bucks, it doesn't work. But just know that if it takes you three years to put aside a million dollars, just know that the clock starts ticking. Now the clock starts really ticking. And the good meaning, the 40 years starts.
So what you want to do is you want to If you've got 50 grand now, put the 50 grand in now and then just keep doing it over time. Because if you wait till you have a million bucks, it doesn't work. But just know that if it takes you three years to put aside a million dollars, just know that the clock starts ticking. Now the clock starts really ticking. And the good meaning, the 40 years starts.
You're 24, okay? And you said that you wanted to leave something to your children, did you not? Yeah. Or was that the last episode? I mean... Okay. All I'm saying is you want to. You want to leave something to your children. And after you do that, I'll talk to you about generational skipping trusts. So that way...
You're 24, okay? And you said that you wanted to leave something to your children, did you not? Yeah. Or was that the last episode? I mean... Okay. All I'm saying is you want to. You want to leave something to your children. And after you do that, I'll talk to you about generational skipping trusts. So that way...
Your child doesn't have to pay into exorbitant taxes and your grandchildren will have the money. And now all this bull stopped with you and you've got a new history to give to your family and leave behind. Because the only thing in the life, in our lives that matters, parents is making certain that our children are okay in the world when we're gone. and leaving this place better than we found it.
Your child doesn't have to pay into exorbitant taxes and your grandchildren will have the money. And now all this bull stopped with you and you've got a new history to give to your family and leave behind. Because the only thing in the life, in our lives that matters, parents is making certain that our children are okay in the world when we're gone. and leaving this place better than we found it.
So this was four or five years ago. Yeah. And you were 19. This must have just destroyed you.
So this was four or five years ago. Yeah. And you were 19. This must have just destroyed you.
That's it. No violence. It's not necessary unless someone breaks in your house.
That's it. No violence. It's not necessary unless someone breaks in your house.
I'm so much handsomer when people aren't wearing their glasses.
I'm so much handsomer when people aren't wearing their glasses.
That's exactly why I do this. Because you saw somebody you admired and you did that.
That's exactly why I do this. Because you saw somebody you admired and you did that.
But you're doing the same thing here. See, you're talking about your experience with drugs and how that doesn't serve you, how it's keeping you from being your best self, your highest self. And just like you were influenced by your buddy, These kids that listen to you are influenced by you.
But you're doing the same thing here. See, you're talking about your experience with drugs and how that doesn't serve you, how it's keeping you from being your best self, your highest self. And just like you were influenced by your buddy, These kids that listen to you are influenced by you.
But yeah. Therapy done right is messy.
But yeah. Therapy done right is messy.
So I don't know if you understand this, but there are kids out there because they're not viewing this for me. Nobody's viewing. Nobody's viewing this for me. They're here for you. Okay. And some of these kids are going to be like, you know what? That's cool. I'm not going to do that. Right.
So I don't know if you understand this, but there are kids out there because they're not viewing this for me. Nobody's viewing. Nobody's viewing this for me. They're here for you. Okay. And some of these kids are going to be like, you know what? That's cool. I'm not going to do that. Right.
Yeah. Some people know. Thank you for that. I was very kind.
Yeah. Some people know. Thank you for that. I was very kind.
Five, yeah. Five. Dude, you can't let your kids see you doing this. Nah, of course not. Let me tell you something, okay? This is a rule I learned not long ago. I mean, I'm slow, okay, but I get there. And I've been told for years this statement, and I blew it off. If there are people in your life that do not add value to your life, get rid of them. and truer words were never spoken.
Five, yeah. Five. Dude, you can't let your kids see you doing this. Nah, of course not. Let me tell you something, okay? This is a rule I learned not long ago. I mean, I'm slow, okay, but I get there. And I've been told for years this statement, and I blew it off. If there are people in your life that do not add value to your life, get rid of them. and truer words were never spoken.
You want to go into treatment today?
You want to go into treatment today?
If you're with people hanging out with people that don't add value to your life, cut them loose. The end.
If you're with people hanging out with people that don't add value to your life, cut them loose. The end.
No, he was on Trank. Yeah. That's the zombie drug, okay? What happens is they have this... And by the way, it's not animal tranquilizer. Let's just get that clear. It's not there to tranquilize the elephant. It's there to put the elephant down. It's meant to kill elephants, okay? That's what your grandfather was using. A drug meant to kill an elephant. Damn. Yeah, people don't understand that.
No, he was on Trank. Yeah. That's the zombie drug, okay? What happens is they have this... And by the way, it's not animal tranquilizer. Let's just get that clear. It's not there to tranquilize the elephant. It's there to put the elephant down. It's meant to kill elephants, okay? That's what your grandfather was using. A drug meant to kill an elephant. Damn. Yeah, people don't understand that.
Now, let me explain something to you. They take fentanyl and they take this elephant tranquilizer, which is why they call it trank, and they shoot it. And then they lean over like that with rigid arms and they're just like their knuckles are dragging on the ground. And then it's a flesh eating drug because the other wasn't fun enough. So there's more.
Now, let me explain something to you. They take fentanyl and they take this elephant tranquilizer, which is why they call it trank, and they shoot it. And then they lean over like that with rigid arms and they're just like their knuckles are dragging on the ground. And then it's a flesh eating drug because the other wasn't fun enough. So there's more.
And you get these holes in your arms or in your legs, like big, like a baseball.
And you get these holes in your arms or in your legs, like big, like a baseball.
And then what they do is they take it and they shoot it in that. And you can see the bone. And Narcan doesn't work on it. It doesn't work on it. Okay. That's why it didn't work. Okay. And he's lucky to be alive. He's beyond lucky to be alive. Yeah. At the time. But you know what the sad part about it is? Yeah. He woke up and he wanted to do another hit immediately. Do you know why?
And then what they do is they take it and they shoot it in that. And you can see the bone. And Narcan doesn't work on it. It doesn't work on it. Okay. That's why it didn't work. Okay. And he's lucky to be alive. He's beyond lucky to be alive. Yeah. At the time. But you know what the sad part about it is? Yeah. He woke up and he wanted to do another hit immediately. Do you know why?
Because what feels the best is getting as close to dead as humanly possible without dying. How scary is that? that's what feels the best. So he, he was as close to dying as humanly possible. Woke up that feel the best, like, okay, time for another. And everybody else in the room is like white and like this and just freaked out. And he's fine.
Because what feels the best is getting as close to dead as humanly possible without dying. How scary is that? that's what feels the best. So he, he was as close to dying as humanly possible. Woke up that feel the best, like, okay, time for another. And everybody else in the room is like white and like this and just freaked out. And he's fine.
Cause you know, it's like, you know, when somebody walks into a room, lights the match and walks out and then everybody's like, that's what happens. He's fine. He left the room. Okay? Everybody else that's witnessing this is traumatized. He has no recollection of that. None.
Cause you know, it's like, you know, when somebody walks into a room, lights the match and walks out and then everybody's like, that's what happens. He's fine. He left the room. Okay? Everybody else that's witnessing this is traumatized. He has no recollection of that. None.
Does your mother and your grandmother talk all the time?
Does your mother and your grandmother talk all the time?
Does your kids have a relationship with your mother?
Does your kids have a relationship with your mother?
She didn't abort you and she didn't leave you in a trash can.
She didn't abort you and she didn't leave you in a trash can.
She looked at your mother, at your grandmother and said, I'm 15. You're my mother. I don't know what to do. And she gave her to your mother, to your grandmother. She did the best she could. She was 15.
She looked at your mother, at your grandmother and said, I'm 15. You're my mother. I don't know what to do. And she gave her to your mother, to your grandmother. She did the best she could. She was 15.
She couldn't, I mean, the chance of her doing that would be zero. Okay? I mean, no chance. A 15-year-old doesn't know how to take care of a child. It just, that's the way it is.
She couldn't, I mean, the chance of her doing that would be zero. Okay? I mean, no chance. A 15-year-old doesn't know how to take care of a child. It just, that's the way it is.
Hey, babe. Thanks for coming.
Hey, babe. Thanks for coming.
You are the best time ever. These days, man. You really are. Okay. Where can people reach you? Where can people find you?
You are the best time ever. These days, man. You really are. Okay. Where can people reach you? Where can people find you?
Last question. What's your favorite song that you've done ever?
Last question. What's your favorite song that you've done ever?
And one that did the best. The one that you personally love that also did very, very well.
And one that did the best. The one that you personally love that also did very, very well.
Which one do you want us to play on the outro of this episode? Or is there one that you're pumping? A new one that you're going to pump. That's probably the way to go.
Which one do you want us to play on the outro of this episode? Or is there one that you're pumping? A new one that you're going to pump. That's probably the way to go.
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Well, let me ask you a question about the violence. Okay, because I just want to be clear. He taught you to be violent. Did he teach you to be violent, or did he teach you how to survive the community?
Well, let me ask you a question about the violence. Okay, because I just want to be clear. He taught you to be violent. Did he teach you to be violent, or did he teach you how to survive the community?
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But bro, you don't have, you don't display any of that. You're like gentle and kind and I don't see it.
But bro, you don't have, you don't display any of that. You're like gentle and kind and I don't see it.
Xan, man. Nice to meet you. We have been trying to get you on for a while. Okay? You are on our wish list. Okay? I thought you were Little Xan. I thought Little Xan was Xan Man. But it doesn't matter anymore because I've got both the Xans. And if there's another Xan Dylan, I want that Xan too. Okay, I want all the zans. All the zans. All the zans. So, man, tell me about your upbringing.
Xan, man. Nice to meet you. We have been trying to get you on for a while. Okay? You are on our wish list. Okay? I thought you were Little Xan. I thought Little Xan was Xan Man. But it doesn't matter anymore because I've got both the Xans. And if there's another Xan Dylan, I want that Xan too. Okay, I want all the zans. All the zans. All the zans. So, man, tell me about your upbringing.
It was, when I tell you, it was something so dumb. No, that was beautiful what you did. So tell me, you just made something beautiful. You said, no, they didn't deserve it. Yeah, they didn't. So what was it? You were, you were. All right. Tell me the story. Hold on a second. You've already done the time for it, right? Yeah. Okay. Now you can tell me.
It was, when I tell you, it was something so dumb. No, that was beautiful what you did. So tell me, you just made something beautiful. You said, no, they didn't deserve it. Yeah, they didn't. So what was it? You were, you were. All right. Tell me the story. Hold on a second. You've already done the time for it, right? Yeah. Okay. Now you can tell me.
And because you were a rapper, you got along there because they dug what you did.
And because you were a rapper, you got along there because they dug what you did.
Yeah. So let's talk about that. You doing well right now? I hear you're one of the biggest deals there is.
Yeah. So let's talk about that. You doing well right now? I hear you're one of the biggest deals there is.
What are you doing with your money? I don't see any ice around your neck, so that's a good sign.
What are you doing with your money? I don't see any ice around your neck, so that's a good sign.
Now, if you ever wanted to know the moment I fell in love with you, it was now. Okay. So, so, so where's the home that you bought?
Now, if you ever wanted to know the moment I fell in love with you, it was now. Okay. So, so, so where's the home that you bought?
Tell me where it all started. Tell the viewers the story.
Tell me where it all started. Tell the viewers the story.
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This was very hard for me to make public. But the woman that you're going to meet, Rima Mays, is the blessing of my life. And the reason I'm introducing her to everyone is because I have a hard time believing that we allow people to live like this. I don't think anybody should have to live like this. We can all sponsor a homeless person. It's not hard and it's not that expensive.
This was very hard for me to make public. But the woman that you're going to meet, Rima Mays, is the blessing of my life. And the reason I'm introducing her to everyone is because I have a hard time believing that we allow people to live like this. I don't think anybody should have to live like this. We can all sponsor a homeless person. It's not hard and it's not that expensive.
Yeah, exactly. Because I remember.
Yeah, exactly. Because I remember.
What you said to me exactly, verbatim, is, Mr. Richard, I was just wondering It's all the same with you and you're willing to pay the money that you're paying at Podshare. I think I'm ready to live on my own now. And if we fall short, I'll just sell more peanuts.
What you said to me exactly, verbatim, is, Mr. Richard, I was just wondering It's all the same with you and you're willing to pay the money that you're paying at Podshare. I think I'm ready to live on my own now. And if we fall short, I'll just sell more peanuts.
And I said, go find your place. That is perfect. I've been waiting for this call.
And I said, go find your place. That is perfect. I've been waiting for this call.
And I remember you telling me that some people didn't even get back to you. They just take the money.
And I remember you telling me that some people didn't even get back to you. They just take the money.
You lived in Tuscaloosa, Alabama?
You lived in Tuscaloosa, Alabama?
And I called you every maybe three weeks, a month. And I asked you how it was going. And that's what you told me, right?
And I called you every maybe three weeks, a month. And I asked you how it was going. And that's what you told me, right?
And then you told me, do you remember what you said? You said... They've been taking my money and they don't even call me back. So I just gave up.
And then you told me, do you remember what you said? You said... They've been taking my money and they don't even call me back. So I just gave up.
Remember?
Remember?
And then what you don't know is I said, don't worry, I'll take care of it for you. And I called Farley into my office and I said, find this woman a place to live right now, please. And I asked him every couple of days for two weeks. And then I screamed at him and I'm like, what is going on here, man? Okay. He goes, they're not calling me back. So then I said, I will deal with it.
And then what you don't know is I said, don't worry, I'll take care of it for you. And I called Farley into my office and I said, find this woman a place to live right now, please. And I asked him every couple of days for two weeks. And then I screamed at him and I'm like, what is going on here, man? Okay. He goes, they're not calling me back. So then I said, I will deal with it.
Hold on a second. Krista, go grab me my Alabama crescent tide. Roll tide. Roll tide. Now, in 2019, when you get here, what do you do? Where are you living?
Hold on a second. Krista, go grab me my Alabama crescent tide. Roll tide. Roll tide. Now, in 2019, when you get here, what do you do? Where are you living?
I called these people and they didn't call me back. Not once. I must have called 10, 15 places like in an hour. I just bang, bang, bang, bang. Not one return call for a week. So then it hit me. The light went on and I said, oh, this is how poor people get jerked around. And then I thought to myself, oh, okay. So I picked up my phone and went through my contacts and
I called these people and they didn't call me back. Not once. I must have called 10, 15 places like in an hour. I just bang, bang, bang, bang. Not one return call for a week. So then it hit me. The light went on and I said, oh, this is how poor people get jerked around. And then I thought to myself, oh, okay. So I picked up my phone and went through my contacts and
And I called my buddy, Jeff, who owns a lot of buildings. And I told him about you and I said, I need a place. And he said, Rich, I don't have anywhere. Okay. In these areas. Cause I wanted you close to me. Right. And she didn't have anything. And he said, but don't worry about it. Your problem is my problem. And I'll have something for you by the end of the day. And he showed me three places.
And I called my buddy, Jeff, who owns a lot of buildings. And I told him about you and I said, I need a place. And he said, Rich, I don't have anywhere. Okay. In these areas. Cause I wanted you close to me. Right. And she didn't have anything. And he said, but don't worry about it. Your problem is my problem. And I'll have something for you by the end of the day. And he showed me three places.
And one of them was in Century City, right across from the mall. And you're about a nine iron from my lawyer, Kevin, one of my best friends. And so I knew I'd be able, if God forbid there was an emergency, he could run right over, right? Or Farley could, or I could. And he found me that place. Did you know about the place before we took you there?
And one of them was in Century City, right across from the mall. And you're about a nine iron from my lawyer, Kevin, one of my best friends. And so I knew I'd be able, if God forbid there was an emergency, he could run right over, right? Or Farley could, or I could. And he found me that place. Did you know about the place before we took you there?
You didn't, right? Good, because I didn't want you to know about it. And what Farley and I did was we went and we got all the furniture, right? The bed and the side table. Do you have side tables? Bed and side tables. The couch at the end of the bed with the coffee table. The TV. The desk and the chair. We got you a computer.
You didn't, right? Good, because I didn't want you to know about it. And what Farley and I did was we went and we got all the furniture, right? The bed and the side table. Do you have side tables? Bed and side tables. The couch at the end of the bed with the coffee table. The TV. The desk and the chair. We got you a computer.
Okay. We're done with that.
Okay. We're done with that.
I want you to know that. If I need somebody's right arm, I'm taking his. Okay.
I want you to know that. If I need somebody's right arm, I'm taking his. Okay.
So much. Got a good grip on you.
So much. Got a good grip on you.
I've got resources. Okay. Hold on one second. See you next Tuesday. All right, we're done today.
I've got resources. Okay. Hold on one second. See you next Tuesday. All right, we're done today.
Okay, we're done for here. This is too much.
Okay, we're done for here. This is too much.
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I'm sorry, you stayed on Federal and Wilshire?
I'm sorry, you stayed on Federal and Wilshire?
What does that mean, a seasonal shelter?
What does that mean, a seasonal shelter?
I don't know. They'll give you one season there. You get three months there.
I don't know. They'll give you one season there. You get three months there.
Carts. So it's like, it's like this big, wide, and it's got this little thing like this, like a,
Carts. So it's like, it's like this big, wide, and it's got this little thing like this, like a,
Yeah.
Yeah.
With a bunch of different heads so people can stand up at the same time to do it?
With a bunch of different heads so people can stand up at the same time to do it?
Like a locker room for a football team.
Like a locker room for a football team.
Where'd you go after that?
Where'd you go after that?
So... I remember the day that I spoke to you and the day that Danielle sent me that picture of you, where were you sleeping then?
So... I remember the day that I spoke to you and the day that Danielle sent me that picture of you, where were you sleeping then?
How often did you stay outside?
How often did you stay outside?
A week?
A week?
Your phone wasn't working then. It was turned off. Because I remember I called you.
Your phone wasn't working then. It was turned off. Because I remember I called you.
I asked Danielle, let me just back up. So I'm sorry. It's just, you know, I love you so much that to even think that you spent one night on the street is so much for me.
I asked Danielle, let me just back up. So I'm sorry. It's just, you know, I love you so much that to even think that you spent one night on the street is so much for me.
Hey, you're never going to have to do that again.
Hey, you're never going to have to do that again.
Not ever. Amen. So, You were staying on Podshare and then one day you were on the bus bench with all your stuff. And what happened?
Not ever. Amen. So, You were staying on Podshare and then one day you were on the bus bench with all your stuff. And what happened?
So, Rima, how long, sweetheart, were you homeless? Well, before we get there, okay, what I want to talk about is you were born in Alabama.
So, Rima, how long, sweetheart, were you homeless? Well, before we get there, okay, what I want to talk about is you were born in Alabama.
The next day.
The next day.
And you lived in Alabama all your life.
And you lived in Alabama all your life.
She sent me the picture with no explanation. And so I called her right back and I said, what is this? And she said, it's just a picture I wanted to send you. I said, does that woman have a phone? And she said, yes. I said, give me her phone number. She went to you and gave and got your phone number and gave it to me. And then I called it and it was out of order.
She sent me the picture with no explanation. And so I called her right back and I said, what is this? And she said, it's just a picture I wanted to send you. I said, does that woman have a phone? And she said, yes. I said, give me her phone number. She went to you and gave and got your phone number and gave it to me. And then I called it and it was out of order.
So I called her back and I screamed at her and I told her to tell you to wait there. And if she wasn't at my house in a half hour to lose my number, And when she got there, I gave her some money. I don't remember what I gave her.
So I called her back and I screamed at her and I told her to tell you to wait there. And if she wasn't at my house in a half hour to lose my number, And when she got there, I gave her some money. I don't remember what I gave her.
How long were you in Alabama for?
How long were you in Alabama for?
Honey, I didn't give anybody a thousand dollars. I gave her more than a thousand dollars. And I said to her, I said, I think I gave her two thousand. And I said to her, I said, find this woman a place to live and let me know where she's at. And she didn't know where to go, did she? But you knew where to go.
Honey, I didn't give anybody a thousand dollars. I gave her more than a thousand dollars. And I said to her, I said, I think I gave her two thousand. And I said to her, I said, find this woman a place to live and let me know where she's at. And she didn't know where to go, did she? But you knew where to go.
And then what happened?
And then what happened?
And her wife's name is?
And her wife's name is?
Okay. Those two women, they're married, right? And they've got a child. And I think they've got another child now. Really? I think they do. These two women are the greatest human beings on the face of the earth. Yeah. The best. Yeah. Podshare. P-O-D-S-H-A-R-E. And that's where people stay.
Okay. Those two women, they're married, right? And they've got a child. And I think they've got another child now. Really? I think they do. These two women are the greatest human beings on the face of the earth. Yeah. The best. Yeah. Podshare. P-O-D-S-H-A-R-E. And that's where people stay.
Okay. And then when you left there, when you left Alabama, where, Mobile? Mobile, Alabama? Where were you? What part of Alabama?
Okay. And then when you left there, when you left Alabama, where, Mobile? Mobile, Alabama? Where were you? What part of Alabama?
Everybody loved you there.
Everybody loved you there.
That's what she said. Everybody. That's what she said. If somebody doesn't love you, the problem's them.
That's what she said. Everybody. That's what she said. If somebody doesn't love you, the problem's them.
So that must have been what? I know how long.
So that must have been what? I know how long.
Two and a half years.
Two and a half years.
You were perfect. That's called a bracket.
You were perfect. That's called a bracket.
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Do you know anyone who's died of fentanyl?
Do you know anyone who's died of fentanyl?
Yeah, I can't hear this shit. It's too much for me. So you've got a lot of followers on Instagram, right? Yeah, like 4 million. 4 million. Okay. So that's legit famous. Yeah, yeah. Especially in your little thing.
Yeah, I can't hear this shit. It's too much for me. So you've got a lot of followers on Instagram, right? Yeah, like 4 million. 4 million. Okay. So that's legit famous. Yeah, yeah. Especially in your little thing.
What size stadium? How many people could, if you put on social media right now, hey, I'm playing at this thing. It's free. Come out tomorrow night. How many people would show up?
What size stadium? How many people could, if you put on social media right now, hey, I'm playing at this thing. It's free. Come out tomorrow night. How many people would show up?
That's magnificent.
That's magnificent.
Was there, did these fans or anybody on social media have any impact on your decision to get sober?
Was there, did these fans or anybody on social media have any impact on your decision to get sober?
Have you ever been afraid that maybe being so open about, um, your drug addiction and your recovery, that maybe that's going to, that you're going to be identified with that more than your music?
Have you ever been afraid that maybe being so open about, um, your drug addiction and your recovery, that maybe that's going to, that you're going to be identified with that more than your music?
Yes. About the hot Cheetos.
Yes. About the hot Cheetos.
Yeah. Let me ask you a question though. Yeah. How many Xannies were you on that day? Oh, probably 10. Okay. Yeah. Probably 10. Maybe. Yeah. It was a Xanny thing.
Yeah. Let me ask you a question though. Yeah. How many Xannies were you on that day? Oh, probably 10. Okay. Yeah. Probably 10. Maybe. Yeah. It was a Xanny thing.
But, you know, only. They're the normies. Yeah.
But, you know, only. They're the normies. Yeah.
Taking the Xanny bars.
Taking the Xanny bars.
Okay. Okay. This is sacrilegious.
Okay. Okay. This is sacrilegious.
I don't even have the words. In my age group, there's really only two rappers. Only two. Tupac and Biggie. Legends. And then it goes to Andre 3000 came out. Yeah, I love Andre. He was dope. First guys I ever listened to was Run DMC.
I don't even have the words. In my age group, there's really only two rappers. Only two. Tupac and Biggie. Legends. And then it goes to Andre 3000 came out. Yeah, I love Andre. He was dope. First guys I ever listened to was Run DMC.
Yeah. what did you say about... Oh, the Tupac. Yeah. You said he was boring. Oh, I might've said he was boring. But you understand that when you hear this man's voice.
Yeah. what did you say about... Oh, the Tupac. Yeah. You said he was boring. Oh, I might've said he was boring. But you understand that when you hear this man's voice.
Like his voice is so cool. Yeah. When he started singing, chicks just dropped their pants.
Like his voice is so cool. Yeah. When he started singing, chicks just dropped their pants.
Thank you. Because it's important to know the room.
Thank you. Because it's important to know the room.
You ever get depressed or anxious?
You ever get depressed or anxious?
Yeah. Okay. Sometimes I get depressed and I get anxious. Yeah. And I know how I get through that. Okay. The way I get through it is when I get scared, I run right through it. I mean, I don't walk through it. I don't lean into it. I just run right through it because... I don't ever want to feel like a coward. That's the worst feeling in the world to me. Yeah, that's a horrible feeling.
Yeah. Okay. Sometimes I get depressed and I get anxious. Yeah. And I know how I get through that. Okay. The way I get through it is when I get scared, I run right through it. I mean, I don't walk through it. I don't lean into it. I just run right through it because... I don't ever want to feel like a coward. That's the worst feeling in the world to me. Yeah, that's a horrible feeling.
So I get afraid all the time. It's completely normal. But the way I deal with it is I just run through it. Just face it head on. I have to.
So I get afraid all the time. It's completely normal. But the way I deal with it is I just run through it. Just face it head on. I have to.
face a problem head on excellent how how how are you going to get there this year what's your plan Man, that's a good one. That's the only question.
face a problem head on excellent how how how are you going to get there this year what's your plan Man, that's a good one. That's the only question.
What plan? You want it, you want, you want to- Exercise.
What plan? You want it, you want, you want to- Exercise.
How long is it? Do you drink?
How long is it? Do you drink?
Do you have a therapist?
Do you have a therapist?
Okay, then that's not a therapist. I'm the finest drug and alcohol treatment facility in the world. Some people think, you know, I'm the expert in this field, okay? I see my therapist three times a week. Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be. Today. Yeah. As we sit here today, okay, with all I've got going on, I still see my therapist three times a week. And there's a reason for it.
Okay, then that's not a therapist. I'm the finest drug and alcohol treatment facility in the world. Some people think, you know, I'm the expert in this field, okay? I see my therapist three times a week. Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be. Today. Yeah. As we sit here today, okay, with all I've got going on, I still see my therapist three times a week. And there's a reason for it.
It's not something I have to do. It's something I get to do. It is the ultimate luxury. It is how responsible people deal with their stressors. Because here's the thing. If your stress is here... Your support, your therapy must always be ahead or greater than your stressors because now you're safe. Now you're safe. Okay? Yeah.
It's not something I have to do. It's something I get to do. It is the ultimate luxury. It is how responsible people deal with their stressors. Because here's the thing. If your stress is here... Your support, your therapy must always be ahead or greater than your stressors because now you're safe. Now you're safe. Okay? Yeah.
Okay. And you smoke pot. Yes. Cali sober. A hundred percent. Cali sober. Well, Cali sober means you don't drink. You just smoke. Oh, really? Well, I'm, I'm, uh, somewhere in the middle there. Yeah. That's okay, bro. You know what the thing is, is, you know, The Xanax was creating wreckage for you, right? Oh, yeah. Okay. And we'll get into that. The pot, I don't really have an opinion on. Okay.
Okay. And you smoke pot. Yes. Cali sober. A hundred percent. Cali sober. Well, Cali sober means you don't drink. You just smoke. Oh, really? Well, I'm, I'm, uh, somewhere in the middle there. Yeah. That's okay, bro. You know what the thing is, is, you know, The Xanax was creating wreckage for you, right? Oh, yeah. Okay. And we'll get into that. The pot, I don't really have an opinion on. Okay.
Otherwise, what happens is you start creating wreckage and you become uncomfortable. And you and I don't do uncomfortable. Oh, yeah. Okay? If we're uncomfortable for long enough... Okay. We have to drink and use. We have to. That's how you and I are wired. Yeah, I agree. Okay. You need a therapist three times a week, man. If you want to get to where you want to get to and you want to blow up.
Otherwise, what happens is you start creating wreckage and you become uncomfortable. And you and I don't do uncomfortable. Oh, yeah. Okay? If we're uncomfortable for long enough... Okay. We have to drink and use. We have to. That's how you and I are wired. Yeah, I agree. Okay. You need a therapist three times a week, man. If you want to get to where you want to get to and you want to blow up.
Okay. And you want to live your best life. that's the way to do it. Yeah. I'm definitely going to get there. I still want, I still think it's beautiful that you're going to wake up every morning and meet your body.
Okay. And you want to live your best life. that's the way to do it. Yeah. I'm definitely going to get there. I still want, I still think it's beautiful that you're going to wake up every morning and meet your body.
And grab a man. Don't grab a woman.
And grab a man. Don't grab a woman.
Okay. You need a man to teach you certain things and to walk through life with. Yeah. Okay. It's really important, man. And anybody who thinks that's weak, they're weak. Exactly. I agree. Because they don't know better.
Okay. You need a man to teach you certain things and to walk through life with. Yeah. Okay. It's really important, man. And anybody who thinks that's weak, they're weak. Exactly. I agree. Because they don't know better.
Well, that's cool, bro, because nobody wants to hear from me. They're here for you today. Man, I am so grateful that you came here today to share your experience and how you've come out the other side just beautifully, man. I am so grateful to you. Thank you so much. Likewise. Very grateful and blessed to be on. I appreciate you. Cool. My listener is going to really appreciate it. Hell yeah.
Well, that's cool, bro, because nobody wants to hear from me. They're here for you today. Man, I am so grateful that you came here today to share your experience and how you've come out the other side just beautifully, man. I am so grateful to you. Thank you so much. Likewise. Very grateful and blessed to be on. I appreciate you. Cool. My listener is going to really appreciate it. Hell yeah.
Look into that camera bees and say, see you next Tuesday.
Look into that camera bees and say, see you next Tuesday.
I consider it to be- Gateway drug? No, no, no, no. I consider it to be like a medically assisted treatment. Okay. Right? So that's not a problem for me. I just want you to be aware of the drinking, right? Because here's my experience. Yeah. Your first drink's fine. But somewhere in that second drink, halfway through, three quarters through, whatever it is, it happens. Mm-hmm.
I consider it to be- Gateway drug? No, no, no, no. I consider it to be like a medically assisted treatment. Okay. Right? So that's not a problem for me. I just want you to be aware of the drinking, right? Because here's my experience. Yeah. Your first drink's fine. But somewhere in that second drink, halfway through, three quarters through, whatever it is, it happens. Mm-hmm.
Oh, you started... That buzz hits, right? Yeah, yeah, that buzz hits. Yeah. Right? And when that does and you're feeling good, it affects your decision-making. Yes. And then you're out to buy...
Oh, you started... That buzz hits, right? Yeah, yeah, that buzz hits. Yeah. Right? And when that does and you're feeling good, it affects your decision-making. Yes. And then you're out to buy...
What was the most difficult moment in your journey trying to get sober?
What was the most difficult moment in your journey trying to get sober?
For sure.
For sure.
Well, it just affects your decision making. It just, you know, that's why people get in a car and they run into a family of four or whatever, you know. I agree completely. And so, if you can be honest with yourself, right? Yeah. And make certain that when you're feeling it, right, because you'll get away with it. The first, I mean, I got away with it maybe a hundred times. Yeah. Okay.
Well, it just affects your decision making. It just, you know, that's why people get in a car and they run into a family of four or whatever, you know. I agree completely. And so, if you can be honest with yourself, right? Yeah. And make certain that when you're feeling it, right, because you'll get away with it. The first, I mean, I got away with it maybe a hundred times. Yeah. Okay.
But then I was back to the dope man.
But then I was back to the dope man.
It is tricky, but here's my fear. Okay. One of the reasons or the reason I decided to do this podcast because of the fentanyl. Epidemic. Yeah, it's horrible. It's horrible. It's horrible. And, you know, Xanax, you ain't going to a damn pharmacy. You just said it. You called your plug.
It is tricky, but here's my fear. Okay. One of the reasons or the reason I decided to do this podcast because of the fentanyl. Epidemic. Yeah, it's horrible. It's horrible. It's horrible. And, you know, Xanax, you ain't going to a damn pharmacy. You just said it. You called your plug.
Well, yeah. 70% of them have fentanyl in it. Yeah. So it's not if you're going to die, it's when you're going to die. When, exactly. Tell me about your family, dude. Do you have brothers, sisters?
Well, yeah. 70% of them have fentanyl in it. Yeah. So it's not if you're going to die, it's when you're going to die. When, exactly. Tell me about your family, dude. Do you have brothers, sisters?
All right. Little Zam. How's it going, man? How you doing? Doing good. This coffee is really good too, man. Thanks for coming today, bro. I really appreciate it. You came from Temecula? Yeah, Temecula, the faraway lands of Temecula. That's three hours. You're going six hours round trip?
All right. Little Zam. How's it going, man? How you doing? Doing good. This coffee is really good too, man. Thanks for coming today, bro. I really appreciate it. You came from Temecula? Yeah, Temecula, the faraway lands of Temecula. That's three hours. You're going six hours round trip?
So it's when you're out with people and somebody commits a felony like that, you're all responsible.
So it's when you're out with people and somebody commits a felony like that, you're all responsible.
What's your relationship like with your parents right now?
What's your relationship like with your parents right now?
So I was homeless for a little bit, not long, but I was, and I heard that you were, is that correct?
So I was homeless for a little bit, not long, but I was, and I heard that you were, is that correct?
That's fantastic.
That's fantastic.
So- I want to talk about, first thing, your name. Yeah. Lil Xan. It's crazy.
So- I want to talk about, first thing, your name. Yeah. Lil Xan. It's crazy.
What was the most difficult moment in your journey trying to get sober?
What was the most difficult moment in your journey trying to get sober?
Dude, you're so lucky because... Nobody stays sober like that anymore. Yeah. Nobody gets sober like that anymore. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've always done, with every treatment center I've ever had, I've always had the same policy. Slow and steady. Yeah. No suffering. I had a guy who was just here. He had eight milligrams of Xanax that he was using for 20 years. That's the tolerance he built.
Dude, you're so lucky because... Nobody stays sober like that anymore. Yeah. Nobody gets sober like that anymore. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've always done, with every treatment center I've ever had, I've always had the same policy. Slow and steady. Yeah. No suffering. I had a guy who was just here. He had eight milligrams of Xanax that he was using for 20 years. That's the tolerance he built.
We went down in the first 30 days to two and a half. That's amazing. Right? So we didn't go down the whole way. We just went down slow and steady. It would have been stupid to go down the whole way. It took us another 30 days because it's harder at the end to go from two and a half to zero. And then- He stayed another 30 days on top of it because his head was foggy.
We went down in the first 30 days to two and a half. That's amazing. Right? So we didn't go down the whole way. We just went down slow and steady. It would have been stupid to go down the whole way. It took us another 30 days because it's harder at the end to go from two and a half to zero. And then- He stayed another 30 days on top of it because his head was foggy.
Because you're walking around like a... Like a zombie. And you've got a fog in your head. Yeah. And you've got all these thoughts and then you try to say them and the words don't come. Yeah.
Because you're walking around like a... Like a zombie. And you've got a fog in your head. Yeah. And you've got all these thoughts and then you try to say them and the words don't come. Yeah.
You know, a lot of people try to get sober and you've tried four times. Yeah. Yeah. Probably more. Yeah. I've tried probably 300 times. I mean, I was just a wreck disaster. Yeah. Have you had any setbacks this time?
You know, a lot of people try to get sober and you've tried four times. Yeah. Yeah. Probably more. Yeah. I've tried probably 300 times. I mean, I was just a wreck disaster. Yeah. Have you had any setbacks this time?
Yeah, without pills. Yeah, dude, you would have been dead for sure.
Yeah, without pills. Yeah, dude, you would have been dead for sure.
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Just one more.
Just one more.
How'd you get sober? Wrong will.
How'd you get sober? Wrong will.
See where and how we can make some money. Um... Meditate. I don't work out as much as I should. How often do you work out?
See where and how we can make some money. Um... Meditate. I don't work out as much as I should. How often do you work out?
Yeah, for sure. For sure. Have you ever been so messed up that your eyes popped out accidentally? Never.
Yeah, for sure. For sure. Have you ever been so messed up that your eyes popped out accidentally? Never.
Where are they getting it? Are they getting it from physicians? Are they getting it on the street?
Where are they getting it? Are they getting it from physicians? Are they getting it on the street?
Does it? Yeah. I mean, if you create that pressure and get in the bloodstream faster. Yeah. And that was a ride of lifetime.
Does it? Yeah. I mean, if you create that pressure and get in the bloodstream faster. Yeah. And that was a ride of lifetime.
I feel like I went on a trip listening to that story. Yeah, tell me to do acid again after that. So you said you were 13 when you smoked weed, and then when did it lead to other stuff?
I feel like I went on a trip listening to that story. Yeah, tell me to do acid again after that. So you said you were 13 when you smoked weed, and then when did it lead to other stuff?
Is that bad or good? That's great. That's cool. I love her to see me in my element. Yeah, I'm sure she is. So the question was, what... Like what age and what led next from just doing weed at your 13th birthday?
Is that bad or good? That's great. That's cool. I love her to see me in my element. Yeah, I'm sure she is. So the question was, what... Like what age and what led next from just doing weed at your 13th birthday?
That's a long time from when you first smoked weed at 13. That's four years.
That's a long time from when you first smoked weed at 13. That's four years.
No, chicks are the gateway drug.
No, chicks are the gateway drug.
Yeah, I got a son, man. That's a dope name for a kid. That is a good name. Yeah. Julius. Julius.
Yeah, I got a son, man. That's a dope name for a kid. That is a good name. Yeah. Julius. Julius.
And do you know anyone that's overdosed?
And do you know anyone that's overdosed?
So 17, 24, how long does that last?
So 17, 24, how long does that last?
So you're 19, done with her. Where are you at drug use wise by that time?
So you're 19, done with her. Where are you at drug use wise by that time?
Did you, was, at what point in your life were you thinking to yourself, like, this is a problem? Like my use is a problem. Or did you never think that?
Did you, was, at what point in your life were you thinking to yourself, like, this is a problem? Like my use is a problem. Or did you never think that?
Yeah, but you've never been to rehab and you've never been to AA.
Yeah, but you've never been to rehab and you've never been to AA.
It's interesting. You know, the idea like I've used drugs, but I'm not an addict, like somebody who treats addicts and is around addicts all day. They do not possess that power. Once they are hooked, they are hooked. Right. There is no, because I know me, like I'm not an addict. I can have one beer and that's it. I'm not sitting there thinking I need five or six or 10 or 12.
It's interesting. You know, the idea like I've used drugs, but I'm not an addict, like somebody who treats addicts and is around addicts all day. They do not possess that power. Once they are hooked, they are hooked. Right. There is no, because I know me, like I'm not an addict. I can have one beer and that's it. I'm not sitting there thinking I need five or six or 10 or 12.
And I'm just not an addict. I could smoke one cigarette and that would be it. Right. But it is addictive. It is, people are powerless. You know, bro, you're a serious guy. Do you ever feel like people may not see you as the serious man that you are because of the iPod thing?
And I'm just not an addict. I could smoke one cigarette and that would be it. Right. But it is addictive. It is, people are powerless. You know, bro, you're a serious guy. Do you ever feel like people may not see you as the serious man that you are because of the iPod thing?
Good. Will you pray for me tonight, please?
Good. Will you pray for me tonight, please?
I just lost my mother and father in 14 days. Oh, man. I'm not going to tap my face, but maybe I'll. Condolences, man. That is a great story. That is a recognition of self and worth, right? Yeah. Like, I'm doing this. They're keeping me down. They're keeping me down. I'm going to do my own thing. I'm going to do my own thing. And that's what I did. That's the American dream.
I just lost my mother and father in 14 days. Oh, man. I'm not going to tap my face, but maybe I'll. Condolences, man. That is a great story. That is a recognition of self and worth, right? Yeah. Like, I'm doing this. They're keeping me down. They're keeping me down. I'm going to do my own thing. I'm going to do my own thing. And that's what I did. That's the American dream.
It is the American dream. And everybody has it in them. That is the best story about the use of YouTube that I've ever heard. That is cool. The internet, the internet to change a life. Yeah. If you utilize it the right way, I can't stop watching them. I want Kenny on from now on. I think he said, yeah, everybody good story in the comment section. Let us know if you want,
It is the American dream. And everybody has it in them. That is the best story about the use of YouTube that I've ever heard. That is cool. The internet, the internet to change a life. Yeah. If you utilize it the right way, I can't stop watching them. I want Kenny on from now on. I think he said, yeah, everybody good story in the comment section. Let us know if you want,
said from 17 years old to 33 bro you know just living in the valley is enough living in the valley is enough to get you doing drugs yeah i mean it's it's you don't know what it's like growing up in the valley man i grew up right next to him in encino okay it is the karens in the valley are just non-stop All the people who are pissed, they don't live in the city. That's essentially what it is.
said from 17 years old to 33 bro you know just living in the valley is enough living in the valley is enough to get you doing drugs yeah i mean it's it's you don't know what it's like growing up in the valley man i grew up right next to him in encino okay it is the karens in the valley are just non-stop All the people who are pissed, they don't live in the city. That's essentially what it is.
kenny here out every week and don't anybody say i suck and he's better than me because i already know that all right um all right let's uh what what what do you want to talk about what do you want to plug what are you doing i want to support you in anything you're doing uh definitely tune in to all the great uh
kenny here out every week and don't anybody say i suck and he's better than me because i already know that all right um all right let's uh what what what do you want to talk about what do you want to plug what are you doing i want to support you in anything you're doing uh definitely tune in to all the great uh
So is there a song that you own, not that you had on a label, not that somebody else wrote or has any ownership in at all? Is there a song that you have that you'd like us to play for you on the outro?
So is there a song that you own, not that you had on a label, not that somebody else wrote or has any ownership in at all? Is there a song that you have that you'd like us to play for you on the outro?
That's so good. It's scary. What's scary? It scares me. I don't know why. I'm glad it scares you. I have you here. I got it. I'm the straight man. I'm glad it scares you, man. It's so nice to meet you. Thank you. Thank you for having me. You're the best, bro.
That's so good. It's scary. What's scary? It scares me. I don't know why. I'm glad it scares you. I have you here. I got it. I'm the straight man. I'm glad it scares you, man. It's so nice to meet you. Thank you. Thank you for having me. You're the best, bro.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, and it feels like the center of the sun in the summer. Yeah. Like I literally, you get out of the car and you want to cry. That's how bad it is. Right. Right. Right? Right. I can agree with that. Dude, I got so spoiled being here in Santa Monica and in Malibu. Oh, man. Like you come from the city. Mm-hmm. There you go broke here because they come here for this.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, and it feels like the center of the sun in the summer. Yeah. Like I literally, you get out of the car and you want to cry. That's how bad it is. Right. Right. Right? Right. I can agree with that. Dude, I got so spoiled being here in Santa Monica and in Malibu. Oh, man. Like you come from the city. Mm-hmm. There you go broke here because they come here for this.
This weather is people. They come in just for the weather, just for the weather, just for the weather. That's right. So you have like in this day and age as an adult making music and out there and you have a friend who's buying, say he thinks he's getting a perk on the street. Is there any feeling of like this could kill me? It could have fentanyl in it.
This weather is people. They come in just for the weather, just for the weather, just for the weather. That's right. So you have like in this day and age as an adult making music and out there and you have a friend who's buying, say he thinks he's getting a perk on the street. Is there any feeling of like this could kill me? It could have fentanyl in it.
I might get it might be laced and I could die.
I might get it might be laced and I could die.
If you're doing the perks or any opioids at all for longer than five to seven days, it's got you. You don't have it. Right. There's no more. You don't have a choice anymore. Right. And you have to probably get medical help. Absolutely. So let me ask you a question. Do you know any friends? You have friends who have died of fentanyl. Yes. Okay.
If you're doing the perks or any opioids at all for longer than five to seven days, it's got you. You don't have it. Right. There's no more. You don't have a choice anymore. Right. And you have to probably get medical help. Absolutely. So let me ask you a question. Do you know any friends? You have friends who have died of fentanyl. Yes. Okay.
Just speak about one of them, about what it did to their parents or their family structure, because it destroys families. Yeah. It completely destroys. So I want to hear a little bit about something, if you know, about the pain it caused the people left behind.
Just speak about one of them, about what it did to their parents or their family structure, because it destroys families. Yeah. It completely destroys. So I want to hear a little bit about something, if you know, about the pain it caused the people left behind.
Chef, thanks for coming by, man. I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thanks, bro. So let's get right to it. You're in the rap scene, the underground rap scene. You got a lot of friends. You guys are doing that whole thing, right? Yeah, I'm a rapper. I'm in the industry. Okay. You see a lot of drugs, press books.
Chef, thanks for coming by, man. I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thanks, bro. So let's get right to it. You're in the rap scene, the underground rap scene. You got a lot of friends. You guys are doing that whole thing, right? Yeah, I'm a rapper. I'm in the industry. Okay. You see a lot of drugs, press books.
Okay. Um, you know, anybody who's suffering, uh, You send them over here. We'll find a spot for him. My treatment center, Carrera, is the finest treatment facility in the world. We're not getting anybody from the podcast. This is about just talking about drugs and the evils of fentanyl and how it's putting all of our children and our loved ones in harm's way. So that's all this is.
Okay. Um, you know, anybody who's suffering, uh, You send them over here. We'll find a spot for him. My treatment center, Carrera, is the finest treatment facility in the world. We're not getting anybody from the podcast. This is about just talking about drugs and the evils of fentanyl and how it's putting all of our children and our loved ones in harm's way. So that's all this is.
Come on, man. Hey, God, can you fix that? That's exothalamus. What does that mean?
Come on, man. Hey, God, can you fix that? That's exothalamus. What does that mean?
It took a long time to learn how to do that. That figure will make your eyes pop out, though.
It took a long time to learn how to do that. That figure will make your eyes pop out, though.
Listen, all seriousness, nobody can go to Carrera. I mean, we've got 18 beds. They're full. There's a wait list. It's always full. It's always a wait list. But there's 18. It's never going to be more than 18. We've got affordable centers that people can go for like 250 or $500 for a deductible and do that. But some people don't even have that insurance. Right. And that's what I'm saying.
Listen, all seriousness, nobody can go to Carrera. I mean, we've got 18 beds. They're full. There's a wait list. It's always full. It's always a wait list. But there's 18. It's never going to be more than 18. We've got affordable centers that people can go for like 250 or $500 for a deductible and do that. But some people don't even have that insurance. Right. And that's what I'm saying.
We've got this place called One Call Placement where you can call. Right? We don't get anything out of it. All we do is we find a spot for these people to get well, because if we can't help them and, you know, maybe we can help maybe 20% maybe of the people that call, the other 80% have to be referred out, you know? Yeah. We don't ever want anybody to feel like they don't have the money. Right.
We've got this place called One Call Placement where you can call. Right? We don't get anything out of it. All we do is we find a spot for these people to get well, because if we can't help them and, you know, maybe we can help maybe 20% maybe of the people that call, the other 80% have to be referred out, you know? Yeah. We don't ever want anybody to feel like they don't have the money. Right.
Okay? Because $165,000 is a lot of money. That's a Porsche GT RS, twin turbo. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah, it is. But it wouldn't bring your kid back if your kid died of a fentanyl overdose, right? It wouldn't bring your kid back. I have friends of mine who, like you, remain nameless, made a ton of money, hundreds of million dollars in investment banking. And...
Okay? Because $165,000 is a lot of money. That's a Porsche GT RS, twin turbo. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah, it is. But it wouldn't bring your kid back if your kid died of a fentanyl overdose, right? It wouldn't bring your kid back. I have friends of mine who, like you, remain nameless, made a ton of money, hundreds of million dollars in investment banking. And...
Sadly, my friend passed away, and then their son just decided on a whim that he was going to try a perk that was laced with fentanyl, and he died. Yeah. If they had had Narcan there, this is a year ago. Now, if you said to them, $165,000 a month, we'll take your kid and get him clean, Don't think for one second they would have done it knowing what the outcome might have been, right?
Sadly, my friend passed away, and then their son just decided on a whim that he was going to try a perk that was laced with fentanyl, and he died. Yeah. If they had had Narcan there, this is a year ago. Now, if you said to them, $165,000 a month, we'll take your kid and get him clean, Don't think for one second they would have done it knowing what the outcome might have been, right?
I mean, no amount of money brings your child back. A lot of people don't know though, bro. A lot of people don't, they don't play through. They don't think it's going to happen to them and they don't want to part with the money. It's fine. Yeah, that's Steve, man. That's it. But they don't have to. That's the point. They don't have to because there's all these different levels of care.
I mean, no amount of money brings your child back. A lot of people don't know though, bro. A lot of people don't, they don't play through. They don't think it's going to happen to them and they don't want to part with the money. It's fine. Yeah, that's Steve, man. That's it. But they don't have to. That's the point. They don't have to because there's all these different levels of care.
You don't have to pop for 165 clicks. Right. You know, if you've got a kid. Right. Okay. You know, that's for your wife. It's for you. Yeah. Okay. That's for your kid if you like them. Right? I mean, it's not for everybody, but everyone's got a place to go. And we got a list of everywhere we can send people because it's so hard, right? If you're calling on drugs, right?
You don't have to pop for 165 clicks. Right. You know, if you've got a kid. Right. Okay. You know, that's for your wife. It's for you. Yeah. Okay. That's for your kid if you like them. Right? I mean, it's not for everybody, but everyone's got a place to go. And we got a list of everywhere we can send people because it's so hard, right? If you're calling on drugs, right?
And you've got that moment of clarity, you've just called 10 places and gotten jerked around. You don't want to get sober anymore. Right. You want to get loaded because this is- Right. It's most crazy. Yeah. You know what I mean? Anyway, I want to ask you a couple of questions. Did drugs or alcohol ever play a role in your life? Yes. Tell me about it. Oh. The most recent?
And you've got that moment of clarity, you've just called 10 places and gotten jerked around. You don't want to get sober anymore. Right. You want to get loaded because this is- Right. It's most crazy. Yeah. You know what I mean? Anyway, I want to ask you a couple of questions. Did drugs or alcohol ever play a role in your life? Yes. Tell me about it. Oh. The most recent?
I saw the woman you're going to marry.
I saw the woman you're going to marry.
That's the Kickstarter. Go. You go. It's a main one. If you had to say like, this is what most people are doing.
That's the Kickstarter. Go. You go. It's a main one. If you had to say like, this is what most people are doing.
Yeah, for sure. Did it kill anybody? But I want to hear. So you said that because of that.
Yeah, for sure. Did it kill anybody? But I want to hear. So you said that because of that.
Okay, but hold on a second. Let's see if he knows why. Why? Why did marijuana open? Yeah, why is the marijuana the gateway drug for you?
Okay, but hold on a second. Let's see if he knows why. Why? Why did marijuana open? Yeah, why is the marijuana the gateway drug for you?
Okay. It's very social. Let me ask you a question. Did you get high enough on the marijuana?
Okay. It's very social. Let me ask you a question. Did you get high enough on the marijuana?
That's the answer right there is the escape. That's actually a rabbi. who said that drug alcohol use is rooted in someone's uncomfortableness in self and whatever that's related to, be it trauma or, You know, family dynamics, whatever it is. Can you look back and say, like, I was escaping from a. Oh, yeah, for sure.
That's the answer right there is the escape. That's actually a rabbi. who said that drug alcohol use is rooted in someone's uncomfortableness in self and whatever that's related to, be it trauma or, You know, family dynamics, whatever it is. Can you look back and say, like, I was escaping from a. Oh, yeah, for sure.
One, what was the that that caused you to use to escape from? Is it anything you can talk about? Can you answer it with your eyes out? No, no. Yeah. That scared me. You know, you're running out the door. Don't do it again.
One, what was the that that caused you to use to escape from? Is it anything you can talk about? Can you answer it with your eyes out? No, no. Yeah. That scared me. You know, you're running out the door. Don't do it again.
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How do we erase the stigma around women who are pregnant coming into treatment?
How do we erase the stigma around women who are pregnant coming into treatment?
Right. But I want to get back to that. I want to get back to the solution. I don't want to veer off.
Right. But I want to get back to that. I want to get back to the solution. I don't want to veer off.
Isn't it if you're not taking Suboxone at the same time every day with the same dose and you're taking it early, you're like walking around two-tenths high? Yeah.
Isn't it if you're not taking Suboxone at the same time every day with the same dose and you're taking it early, you're like walking around two-tenths high? Yeah.
So why is anybody using methadone?
So why is anybody using methadone?
Okay, but here's where I need the distinction drawn. If you've got somebody coming in, right? A mother who's pregnant coming in and she's taken, I don't know, 320 Oxycontin, right? A day, right? She's loaded and she's going to have a withdrawal if she's done it for any length of time, right? Why would you not...
Okay, but here's where I need the distinction drawn. If you've got somebody coming in, right? A mother who's pregnant coming in and she's taken, I don't know, 320 Oxycontin, right? A day, right? She's loaded and she's going to have a withdrawal if she's done it for any length of time, right? Why would you not...
detox her with the methadone, if that's the way you do it with other populations, isn't she going to, how do you assist, how would you assist that detox process with a pregnant mother?
detox her with the methadone, if that's the way you do it with other populations, isn't she going to, how do you assist, how would you assist that detox process with a pregnant mother?
That's an excellent point, right? So she's using, right, to not just stay high, but to keep from getting sick. That's the primary motivation. Of course, of course. So my question then again is, What do you use along with buprenorphine to detox this woman so that she's not suffering?
That's an excellent point, right? So she's using, right, to not just stay high, but to keep from getting sick. That's the primary motivation. Of course, of course. So my question then again is, What do you use along with buprenorphine to detox this woman so that she's not suffering?
Because it would seem like, yeah, it's better for the baby, but it would have been better for the baby not to be using in the first place, right? So how do you assist this process?
Because it would seem like, yeah, it's better for the baby, but it would have been better for the baby not to be using in the first place, right? So how do you assist this process?
Dr. Blair. Mm-hmm. Is that what you're experiencing with women who are showing and when you see them addicted to drugs, what's your experience around that?
Dr. Blair. Mm-hmm. Is that what you're experiencing with women who are showing and when you see them addicted to drugs, what's your experience around that?
They can't get off the couch. They can't get off the couch. The reason people use opiates a lot of the times, and the reason they're called painkillers is because they work better on emotional pain than they do on physical pain. And we're a depressive society. Income disparity is getting worse and worse. Uh, it's getting harder. Careers are not careers any longer.
They can't get off the couch. They can't get off the couch. The reason people use opiates a lot of the times, and the reason they're called painkillers is because they work better on emotional pain than they do on physical pain. And we're a depressive society. Income disparity is getting worse and worse. Uh, it's getting harder. Careers are not careers any longer.
Um, you're changing careers every three years. Now it's not like when we were kids and you could be, uh, you know, uh, whatever it is you were, you work at an auto plant. Okay. For 30 years or with a pension, right. With a pension. And, you know, those days are over now, you know, the technology it's like every day, right. It's changing. So, um,
Um, you're changing careers every three years. Now it's not like when we were kids and you could be, uh, you know, uh, whatever it is you were, you work at an auto plant. Okay. For 30 years or with a pension, right. With a pension. And, you know, those days are over now, you know, the technology it's like every day, right. It's changing. So, um,
I want to get back, if you don't mind, I want to get back to the solution, okay, one more time, okay? Because we can either talk about it or be about it. And, you know, you're a big shot there, okay? How would it be received if we put an outline together that said, hey, look, when they come in like this, right? When a pregnant mother comes in and she's showing and or not, right?
I want to get back, if you don't mind, I want to get back to the solution, okay, one more time, okay? Because we can either talk about it or be about it. And, you know, you're a big shot there, okay? How would it be received if we put an outline together that said, hey, look, when they come in like this, right? When a pregnant mother comes in and she's showing and or not, right?
But it's not going to happen if they're not showing in this case, chances are, right? So if she comes in, she's showing, right? She has an accidental overdose. She's in the ER. How do we get that? Blair in there right away, these centers that will take people for Medicare and Medi-Cal and Medicaid and Obamacare and all these insurances that...
But it's not going to happen if they're not showing in this case, chances are, right? So if she comes in, she's showing, right? She has an accidental overdose. She's in the ER. How do we get that? Blair in there right away, these centers that will take people for Medicare and Medi-Cal and Medicaid and Obamacare and all these insurances that...
treatment centers don't typically take so we put those in the in the portal she then refers gets them to pick them up or you guys transfer them right to the treatment center and we save a couple lives how how is that going to happen
treatment centers don't typically take so we put those in the in the portal she then refers gets them to pick them up or you guys transfer them right to the treatment center and we save a couple lives how how is that going to happen
Hold on a second. That's true. That's the first step. But they're not going to have. Wait, hold on a second. But they're not going to trust that. She's the one that gets the trust because not every doctor's like you. The patients that you have trust you because you're unusual.
Hold on a second. That's true. That's the first step. But they're not going to have. Wait, hold on a second. But they're not going to trust that. She's the one that gets the trust because not every doctor's like you. The patients that you have trust you because you're unusual.
We need somebody, a social worker, okay, who has the ability to connect and really love them and express to them how serious this is and that it's going to be okay and then make the transfer and stay with this woman until they actually pick them up. That is how I envision it. So how do we get that done? Will the people be receptive to that?
We need somebody, a social worker, okay, who has the ability to connect and really love them and express to them how serious this is and that it's going to be okay and then make the transfer and stay with this woman until they actually pick them up. That is how I envision it. So how do we get that done? Will the people be receptive to that?
But you're talking about the person, right, that actually has the wherewithal to come in and check on the baby. And that happens all the time because you're seeing it. I'm specifically talking about the woman who is overdosed or med seeking and going into the ER. Right. And that woman is like the baby is an afterthought. Right. Right.
But you're talking about the person, right, that actually has the wherewithal to come in and check on the baby. And that happens all the time because you're seeing it. I'm specifically talking about the woman who is overdosed or med seeking and going into the ER. Right. And that woman is like the baby is an afterthought. Right. Right.
And so what I'm saying is, is there a way procedurally, right, to work it out with the hospital, right, to actually have this policy so that we can save the masses? I know what you're going to do. Right. But you're one of one. Right. OK, where I want is a policy that they have to follow every single time this happens. Is there a way to listen?
And so what I'm saying is, is there a way procedurally, right, to work it out with the hospital, right, to actually have this policy so that we can save the masses? I know what you're going to do. Right. But you're one of one. Right. OK, where I want is a policy that they have to follow every single time this happens. Is there a way to listen?
I don't care if you're going to shame these administrators or shame the hospital system. That's OK.
I don't care if you're going to shame these administrators or shame the hospital system. That's OK.
OK. How do you incentivize them?
OK. How do you incentivize them?
Right. I'm always looking for the punishing program.
Right. I'm always looking for the punishing program.
Can we get the opposite? Can we get them incentivized for every one they send to treatment?
Can we get the opposite? Can we get them incentivized for every one they send to treatment?
You know, the insurance companies, OK, are all about outcomes now.
You know, the insurance companies, OK, are all about outcomes now.
Right. It would seem that insurance companies would have a horse in this fight. Right. I know that's wrong.
Right. It would seem that insurance companies would have a horse in this fight. Right. I know that's wrong.
What is the horse in the race? Yes. A dog in the fight. Right. Both of them. Both of them are good. Right. It would seem that they have a self-interest issue. In getting this transfer to treatment to prevent the ongoing med seeking in the ongoing survival.
What is the horse in the race? Yes. A dog in the fight. Right. Both of them. Both of them are good. Right. It would seem that they have a self-interest issue. In getting this transfer to treatment to prevent the ongoing med seeking in the ongoing survival.
No, but I get it. No, I get it. But it's basically, it's not so much anecdotal. It's more or less field research for you, right? So that's the ticket right there. That's the ticket.
No, but I get it. No, I get it. But it's basically, it's not so much anecdotal. It's more or less field research for you, right? So that's the ticket right there. That's the ticket.
Yeah, but I think it's $250 for a wrongful death. Yeah, but they don't care. I like the fact that the CEOs of these insurance companies are making between $30 and $50 million a year, right? And they're doing it based on...
Yeah, but I think it's $250 for a wrongful death. Yeah, but they don't care. I like the fact that the CEOs of these insurance companies are making between $30 and $50 million a year, right? And they're doing it based on...
you know gains quarter over quarter year over year and i think that this is something that would be genius for certain companies they'll all jump on but you have a sigma or an etna or anthem or whoever it is some stud walks in and says no no this is the policy right here okay and you know everybody jumps on the bandwagon right so if you took it from a
you know gains quarter over quarter year over year and i think that this is something that would be genius for certain companies they'll all jump on but you have a sigma or an etna or anthem or whoever it is some stud walks in and says no no this is the policy right here okay and you know everybody jumps on the bandwagon right so if you took it from a
Especially when they show up to treatment pregnant showing. Yes. Because there's so much judgment around it.
Especially when they show up to treatment pregnant showing. Yes. Because there's so much judgment around it.
And that is, we're educating OBGYNs right from the gate, right? So that they understand what these protocols are and they can identify the med seekers and the people who are overdosing and addicted. Is there a way to do that?
And that is, we're educating OBGYNs right from the gate, right? So that they understand what these protocols are and they can identify the med seekers and the people who are overdosing and addicted. Is there a way to do that?
Yeah. Because, you know, a lot of doctors are desensitized to the process of helping another.
Yeah. Because, you know, a lot of doctors are desensitized to the process of helping another.
This is for you. Because I've spoken in a lot of these psychological universities, right? Wouldn't the seniors or the people who are about to graduate that have to do their hours, right? And they get out, they've got to do their hours. Wouldn't it be great? And they're altruistic at that point, right? Right? They're on fire. So they come out, they're trained in this, right?
This is for you. Because I've spoken in a lot of these psychological universities, right? Wouldn't the seniors or the people who are about to graduate that have to do their hours, right? And they get out, they've got to do their hours. Wouldn't it be great? And they're altruistic at that point, right? Right? They're on fire. So they come out, they're trained in this, right?
They go ahead and they do you and their hours are actually signed off on by the hospital, right? That seems like, you know, a cost effective way to do it for everybody and really the best way.
They go ahead and they do you and their hours are actually signed off on by the hospital, right? That seems like, you know, a cost effective way to do it for everybody and really the best way.
And these people are on the way out, right? This is something where, you know, they've got like what an 80 year life expectancy.
And these people are on the way out, right? This is something where, you know, they've got like what an 80 year life expectancy.
That was my idea to deal with the homeless issue, right? Just you get one guy, it's the Pied Piper, right? They, 25 of them follow this guy because this isn't something that you can teach, right? I mean, I guess it is if you, see, the problem is normally you can video yourself and, but you can't in the homeless population, right?
That was my idea to deal with the homeless issue, right? Just you get one guy, it's the Pied Piper, right? They, 25 of them follow this guy because this isn't something that you can teach, right? I mean, I guess it is if you, see, the problem is normally you can video yourself and, but you can't in the homeless population, right?
Because if you're doing it that way, these people get creeped out and they don't want it. Right. So that can't happen. But if you walk around with coffee and breakfast and whatever, sandwiches, whatever it is, socks, jackets, blankets, whatever it is, and you're of service and you have the conversation and you can pull a couple people off the street a day and put them somewhere.
Because if you're doing it that way, these people get creeped out and they don't want it. Right. So that can't happen. But if you walk around with coffee and breakfast and whatever, sandwiches, whatever it is, socks, jackets, blankets, whatever it is, and you're of service and you have the conversation and you can pull a couple people off the street a day and put them somewhere.
You know, it's magic, right? I mean, that's how I envision this, right? You go in and you have, you know, I've seen the doctors walk in. You've got four guys in tow, right? And so same thing here. You know, you walk in, you've got four of these trainees, these people straight out of school. They come on in, they see how you do it and they branch out.
You know, it's magic, right? I mean, that's how I envision this, right? You go in and you have, you know, I've seen the doctors walk in. You've got four guys in tow, right? And so same thing here. You know, you walk in, you've got four of these trainees, these people straight out of school. They come on in, they see how you do it and they branch out.
And the next thing you know, they're training and they don't have to do a bunch of hours. They can do, you know, a hundred hours of this and then become proficient. And they grab their, the next four, each one grabs another four and you can make a difference in a whole hospital in like, you know, three, four months. Yeah. Right. And these hospitals are all chains now. Right.
And the next thing you know, they're training and they don't have to do a bunch of hours. They can do, you know, a hundred hours of this and then become proficient. And they grab their, the next four, each one grabs another four and you can make a difference in a whole hospital in like, you know, three, four months. Yeah. Right. And these hospitals are all chains now. Right.
And then they go to the next chain and the next chain, like you're at Memorial, that chain. Right. They're like the third biggest in the nation, aren't they? Okay. I mean, you could do that. These could be positions. And in every major city, you've got these psychological universities. Right. And think about it. These people are such good. Most of the people that go in to be a therapist. Right.
And then they go to the next chain and the next chain, like you're at Memorial, that chain. Right. They're like the third biggest in the nation, aren't they? Okay. I mean, you could do that. These could be positions. And in every major city, you've got these psychological universities. Right. And think about it. These people are such good. Most of the people that go in to be a therapist. Right.
Right. They've got good souls, right? Right? There's a good soul industry. Yeah, sure. I mean, can you imagine? That's not a hard sell to get them to, you know, take care of babies and mothers. That's not hard at all.
Right. They've got good souls, right? Right? There's a good soul industry. Yeah, sure. I mean, can you imagine? That's not a hard sell to get them to, you know, take care of babies and mothers. That's not hard at all.
That's right. At least.
That's right. At least.
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At least.
All right. What else we got? This has been so productive. I don't even know what to say. I'm so grateful that the both of you came today. Thank you. I really am.
All right. What else we got? This has been so productive. I don't even know what to say. I'm so grateful that the both of you came today. Thank you. I really am.
As you guys know, my name is Richard Tate. I'm the founder of Carrera Treatment Facility. And I call this podcast, We're Out of Time. And the reason I do that is because we actually are with this fentanyl crisis that we're having. I mean, the opioid epidemic has been going on for a while, okay? But now it's killing everybody with fentanyl. And
As you guys know, my name is Richard Tate. I'm the founder of Carrera Treatment Facility. And I call this podcast, We're Out of Time. And the reason I do that is because we actually are with this fentanyl crisis that we're having. I mean, the opioid epidemic has been going on for a while, okay? But now it's killing everybody with fentanyl. And
But you got to take the first step in on anything. So if it was easy, everybody would be doing it. You guys just got to drag these people across the goal line.
But you got to take the first step in on anything. So if it was easy, everybody would be doing it. You guys just got to drag these people across the goal line.
It's hard to start it. It is. It's hard to get people in power to get on board, okay? And you really have to give them the credit, right? And you just have to be, you know, hey, man, you almost have to talk to them and make it their idea, right? Right? Oh, true.
It's hard to start it. It is. It's hard to get people in power to get on board, okay? And you really have to give them the credit, right? And you just have to be, you know, hey, man, you almost have to talk to them and make it their idea, right? Right? Oh, true.
That is politics to a T. I do not need credit. Credit is for politicians.
That is politics to a T. I do not need credit. Credit is for politicians.
Yeah. So guys, thank you so much for coming. I just, before I leave, Kenny, how can they find you? If anybody needs you, how can they reach you?
Yeah. So guys, thank you so much for coming. I just, before I leave, Kenny, how can they find you? If anybody needs you, how can they reach you?
Blair, how can they find you?
Blair, how can they find you?
Outstanding. Thank you, guys. Oh, you were going to fact check me on something.
Outstanding. Thank you, guys. Oh, you were going to fact check me on something.
How long have you been doing this, Kenny? 30 years.
How long have you been doing this, Kenny? 30 years.
Did I get that right? Yeah. Okay. All right, guys. Thank you so much.
Did I get that right? Yeah. Okay. All right, guys. Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, it's ridiculous how women, it's funny, I had somebody bring in my dry cleaning, right? A woman bring in my dry cleaning and it cost three times more for her than it cost for me, right? And they do that in mechanics too. Like women get the short end of the stick. Hairstylists. Everything. Yeah, women get the short end of the stick everywhere.
Yeah, it's ridiculous how women, it's funny, I had somebody bring in my dry cleaning, right? A woman bring in my dry cleaning and it cost three times more for her than it cost for me, right? And they do that in mechanics too. Like women get the short end of the stick. Hairstylists. Everything. Yeah, women get the short end of the stick everywhere.
How do we go ahead and erase the stigma around women who are pregnant coming into treatment?
How do we go ahead and erase the stigma around women who are pregnant coming into treatment?
you know, when you were back in the day, when you were scoring cocaine or heroin or pills off the street, it wasn't, you, you thought you were getting it, you know, you were getting the Percocet, you were getting the heroin, you were getting all these drugs today. That's not what you're bargaining for. Okay. It's being laced with fentanyl. It's killing about, um, 112,000 people a year, right?
you know, when you were back in the day, when you were scoring cocaine or heroin or pills off the street, it wasn't, you, you thought you were getting it, you know, you were getting the Percocet, you were getting the heroin, you were getting all these drugs today. That's not what you're bargaining for. Okay. It's being laced with fentanyl. It's killing about, um, 112,000 people a year, right?
People are getting fat shamed all the time.
People are getting fat shamed all the time.
In the medical community.
In the medical community.
Okay.
Okay.
You know what it is? They come in. I think you get pregnant if you're going to carry it to term, right? You... There's a part of the mama bear inside of you, right? And it's protective and right. And so then what happens is they feel such shame, right? That they're not coming to you in the first place.
You know what it is? They come in. I think you get pregnant if you're going to carry it to term, right? You... There's a part of the mama bear inside of you, right? And it's protective and right. And so then what happens is they feel such shame, right? That they're not coming to you in the first place.
And so really what we got to do is we've just got to, it's got to be the same exact thing that we did to erode substance use disorder in the first place, which is you're not bad. You're just sick, right? right? And now, like you said at the beginning, it's affecting more than just you. And what scares me the most, why you're here, is because I'm a father.
And so really what we got to do is we've just got to, it's got to be the same exact thing that we did to erode substance use disorder in the first place, which is you're not bad. You're just sick, right? right? And now, like you said at the beginning, it's affecting more than just you. And what scares me the most, why you're here, is because I'm a father.
And when you're as old as I was when I had kids, you don't just love your kids, you love all kids. And I'm passionate about this opioid epidemic and specifically the fentanyl thing. It's causing more homeless, which I'm also passionate about. And if I see another child on the street in an encampment, I'm going to snap, right? I see that all the time.
And when you're as old as I was when I had kids, you don't just love your kids, you love all kids. And I'm passionate about this opioid epidemic and specifically the fentanyl thing. It's causing more homeless, which I'm also passionate about. And if I see another child on the street in an encampment, I'm going to snap, right? I see that all the time.
But this is so bad because they're being born with birth defects, right?
But this is so bad because they're being born with birth defects, right?
But when you're five, six months showing and you're already in the grips of addiction in the first place, right? How do we make it so that we can draw the distinction between, oh, you just found out that you're showing. This is different. Now this is going to affect your baby. She's going to be born or he's going to be born or they're going to be born addicted. And the withdrawal is painful.
But when you're five, six months showing and you're already in the grips of addiction in the first place, right? How do we make it so that we can draw the distinction between, oh, you just found out that you're showing. This is different. Now this is going to affect your baby. She's going to be born or he's going to be born or they're going to be born addicted. And the withdrawal is painful.
And I assume that sometimes that results in a fetal death, right?
And I assume that sometimes that results in a fetal death, right?
So how is it in a hospital setting? How can we get like somebody like Dr. Blair in there so that the second on the first time they come in, right? They meet with somebody like you and you sit down with them and you connect one-on-one and you, you know, give them the reality of the position they're in and how to deal with it. Maybe refer them to, you know, a treatment center, right?
So how is it in a hospital setting? How can we get like somebody like Dr. Blair in there so that the second on the first time they come in, right? They meet with somebody like you and you sit down with them and you connect one-on-one and you, you know, give them the reality of the position they're in and how to deal with it. Maybe refer them to, you know, a treatment center, right?
And it's increased 30-fold over the last 10 years. And most of it has been in the last five since I've been gone. And one of the reasons I came back was because of this. This is Dr. Blair. She's a psychologist. Fantastic. She's been doing this for about 20 years. This is Dr. Kenneth Spielvogel, one of the finest women's physicians in the city. And let's start with Dr. Spielvogel. Good morning.
And it's increased 30-fold over the last 10 years. And most of it has been in the last five since I've been gone. And one of the reasons I came back was because of this. This is Dr. Blair. She's a psychologist. Fantastic. She's been doing this for about 20 years. This is Dr. Kenneth Spielvogel, one of the finest women's physicians in the city. And let's start with Dr. Spielvogel. Good morning.
Isn't that something that a hospital administrator would be open to?
Isn't that something that a hospital administrator would be open to?
Wrong question, man. Wrong question. Nobody wants treatment. Okay. The only thing harder to sell than treatment is adult circumcision. I'm not even kidding. Swear to God. It's the hardest thing.
Wrong question, man. Wrong question. Nobody wants treatment. Okay. The only thing harder to sell than treatment is adult circumcision. I'm not even kidding. Swear to God. It's the hardest thing.
It's called a moment of clarity. Okay. If you don't take her right there, if you can't transfer her right there to a treatment center, that moment passes like a cloud just goes, right? So. Is there an apparatus? You're a teaching doctor there. They revere you. Okay.
It's called a moment of clarity. Okay. If you don't take her right there, if you can't transfer her right there to a treatment center, that moment passes like a cloud just goes, right? So. Is there an apparatus? You're a teaching doctor there. They revere you. Okay.
Is there a way that maybe something like that can be put into place that somebody who's skilled like Blair can meet with them one-on-one? Mm-hmm. Right. And then you make the referral right away to wherever you think is appropriate. And there'll be like a transfer portal. Right. We know of those things. Right. Transfer a referral portal. Portal. Right.
Is there a way that maybe something like that can be put into place that somebody who's skilled like Blair can meet with them one-on-one? Mm-hmm. Right. And then you make the referral right away to wherever you think is appropriate. And there'll be like a transfer portal. Right. We know of those things. Right. Transfer a referral portal. Portal. Right.
And so you take that, you look into it, you do your assessment of where is appropriate for her. Right. And you you arrange for the pickup. Right. And she's transferred immediately.
And so you take that, you look into it, you do your assessment of where is appropriate for her. Right. And you you arrange for the pickup. Right. And she's transferred immediately.
Well, that's what this is about. It's about solutions.
Well, that's what this is about. It's about solutions.
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Right, totally. Do you see how excited he got when he was discussing the pills?
Right, totally. Do you see how excited he got when he was discussing the pills?
That was so good.
That was so good.
22, 23.
22, 23.
Dude, that's so good. That's so good. At 22, you must have just been like so wide-eyed. I was insane. That's so good.
Dude, that's so good. That's so good. At 22, you must have just been like so wide-eyed. I was insane. That's so good.
Do you like, one of my favorite things, because I haven't seen Saturday Night Live in years. It's good right now. I did watch... the last couple years. I love that, the thing that Dennis Miller used to do with Michael Che and- Colin Jost. Yes. When they write each other's stuff. Oh my God, it's amazing. It's the best thing I've ever seen. Man of steel, S-T-E-A-L.
Do you like, one of my favorite things, because I haven't seen Saturday Night Live in years. It's good right now. I did watch... the last couple years. I love that, the thing that Dennis Miller used to do with Michael Che and- Colin Jost. Yes. When they write each other's stuff. Oh my God, it's amazing. It's the best thing I've ever seen. Man of steel, S-T-E-A-L.
It's all about a big RB sandwich. They did it again this year. And she was like this.
It's all about a big RB sandwich. They did it again this year. And she was like this.
No. He's a cool guy. Yeah, I would love to meet him. He's really cool.
No. He's a cool guy. Yeah, I would love to meet him. He's really cool.
George Carlin. Me too. Who is your second favorite comedian?
George Carlin. Me too. Who is your second favorite comedian?
I love when you do Christopher Walken.
I love when you do Christopher Walken.
That's how I wake up in the morning. Yeah. I've got him on my phone. Saying what? Exactly. Richard, you got to get moving. Get up. Your employees, they're not gonna yell at themselves.
That's how I wake up in the morning. Yeah. I've got him on my phone. Saying what? Exactly. Richard, you got to get moving. Get up. Your employees, they're not gonna yell at themselves.
I didn't, my buddy did it for me. My buddy, how did I get him to do it?
I didn't, my buddy did it for me. My buddy, how did I get him to do it?
Player, the most famous person I've ever had in my house is you. That's not true.
Player, the most famous person I've ever had in my house is you. That's not true.
Your son forgets that he is. The best scene he's ever done was in True Romance. Do you remember that scene?
Your son forgets that he is. The best scene he's ever done was in True Romance. Do you remember that scene?
Let me ask you a question. Have you known anybody who's died of fentanyl? Fentanyl overdose?
Let me ask you a question. Have you known anybody who's died of fentanyl? Fentanyl overdose?
Don't care. The only far you get when you play it forward, when you're using, is you think about the detox and you're like, uh-uh, I'm going to keep using. I mean, that for me, if you play this, if you play it forward, you can only think as long as I'm running out of drugs, I'm going to come down. Right? So I better keep using drugs.
Don't care. The only far you get when you play it forward, when you're using, is you think about the detox and you're like, uh-uh, I'm going to keep using. I mean, that for me, if you play this, if you play it forward, you can only think as long as I'm running out of drugs, I'm going to come down. Right? So I better keep using drugs.
I mean, for me, you know, every time I played it forward, I was thinking, you know, I'm gonna be suffering.
I mean, for me, you know, every time I played it forward, I was thinking, you know, I'm gonna be suffering.
You don't get the bell ringer. Okay. You don't get the bell ringer, but you get that. So you're a lot more, you know, you're going to paint the house.
You don't get the bell ringer. Okay. You don't get the bell ringer, but you get that. So you're a lot more, you know, you're going to paint the house.
You've done remarkably well. Like you were doing, you were always functioning, right? I mean, you were 22 years old. You were doing drugs the entire time. I was drinking, drugs were like 2000 teens. But you still came out the other side beautifully. I mean, you've got a great wife. You've got great kids. Oh, now for sure. You've got great recovery.
You've done remarkably well. Like you were doing, you were always functioning, right? I mean, you were 22 years old. You were doing drugs the entire time. I was drinking, drugs were like 2000 teens. But you still came out the other side beautifully. I mean, you've got a great wife. You've got great kids. Oh, now for sure. You've got great recovery.
You've got great relationships with a bunch of guys. Talked to one this morning, Tim, right? Just a wonderful guy. Tim Ryan's my boy.
You've got great relationships with a bunch of guys. Talked to one this morning, Tim, right? Just a wonderful guy. Tim Ryan's my boy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's the only way is through a commitment. If you don't have a contract with yourself to go when you don't want to go and to do what you don't want to do and push through it, you can't stay sober if you're an alcoholic like me. If you come in surrendered already, right? anybody can get you sober, okay? Because you've already surrendered.
That's the only way is through a commitment. If you don't have a contract with yourself to go when you don't want to go and to do what you don't want to do and push through it, you can't stay sober if you're an alcoholic like me. If you come in surrendered already, right? anybody can get you sober, okay? Because you've already surrendered.
You're willing to do anything and everything to stay sober.
You're willing to do anything and everything to stay sober.
Yes.
Yes.
Handsome Tuesday.
Handsome Tuesday.
All right. In your best Chris Walken voice, will you please look into this camera and say... You're out of time.
All right. In your best Chris Walken voice, will you please look into this camera and say... You're out of time.
Explain that. And he can feel that way because it works for him. Right. Okay? And his life depends on it, so he's got to think that way. Okay? But... A lot of it comes from our early childhoods. Well, for sure. Right? And that's an external thing. And, you know, in AA, they talk about how, you know, our parents did the best they could, right? Even if they didn't.
Explain that. And he can feel that way because it works for him. Right. Okay? And his life depends on it, so he's got to think that way. Okay? But... A lot of it comes from our early childhoods. Well, for sure. Right? And that's an external thing. And, you know, in AA, they talk about how, you know, our parents did the best they could, right? Even if they didn't.
You have to say that in order to codify it in your brain. But what happens is, so for example, you're five years old. Now, remember when you were five, you were little. And everybody was big. Remember? Okay. So if you have your father going, shut up, I'll give you something to cry about. And he smacks you or he hits you with the belt or in my case, the cane with the brass handle, right?
You have to say that in order to codify it in your brain. But what happens is, so for example, you're five years old. Now, remember when you were five, you were little. And everybody was big. Remember? Okay. So if you have your father going, shut up, I'll give you something to cry about. And he smacks you or he hits you with the belt or in my case, the cane with the brass handle, right?
It's like, you can't formulate the thought, my parents are idiots. Because... your frontal cortex isn't developed. And not only that, but you're like, if these people don't love me, if they're the ones that have me, what am I supposed to do? I must be bad. You can't say anything other than because your frontal cortex isn't developed, I must be bad. And if you're bad, okay,
It's like, you can't formulate the thought, my parents are idiots. Because... your frontal cortex isn't developed. And not only that, but you're like, if these people don't love me, if they're the ones that have me, what am I supposed to do? I must be bad. You can't say anything other than because your frontal cortex isn't developed, I must be bad. And if you're bad, okay,
Every time you get disappointed, every time they hit you, every time they say, shut up, are you stupid? Or whatever they say, it reinforces itself. And pretty soon you're a 45 year old man You know, and your five-year-old self is running a 45-year-old man. And that's what I, but that doesn't make you a victim or for me, it doesn't make me a victim.
Every time you get disappointed, every time they hit you, every time they say, shut up, are you stupid? Or whatever they say, it reinforces itself. And pretty soon you're a 45 year old man You know, and your five-year-old self is running a 45-year-old man. And that's what I, but that doesn't make you a victim or for me, it doesn't make me a victim.
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And the reason it doesn't make me a victim is because I can say, okay, that's what happened Okay, I'm the adult now, I'm the parent now, and I'm not gonna be a victim. And the genius is that you figured that out and you stopped lying to yourself. And once you can get that, It works. But the thing about AA is it's always the same. And it's my foundation, man. I'm not sober today without AA.
And the reason it doesn't make me a victim is because I can say, okay, that's what happened Okay, I'm the adult now, I'm the parent now, and I'm not gonna be a victim. And the genius is that you figured that out and you stopped lying to yourself. And once you can get that, It works. But the thing about AA is it's always the same. And it's my foundation, man. I'm not sober today without AA.
I'm not. Okay. I don't have kids. I'm not, you know, none of it. I mean, I've been given a life, right? But The problem sometimes with AA is they feel it's the only way. Everybody's an expert on their own sobriety. And they have to believe that way because their life is dependent on it. So I understand it.
I'm not. Okay. I don't have kids. I'm not, you know, none of it. I mean, I've been given a life, right? But The problem sometimes with AA is they feel it's the only way. Everybody's an expert on their own sobriety. And they have to believe that way because their life is dependent on it. So I understand it.
Dude, I was so, this is the household I was brought up in, and you'll be able to tell exactly why it turned out the way I did.
Dude, I was so, this is the household I was brought up in, and you'll be able to tell exactly why it turned out the way I did.
Yeah, he just had to beat the shit out of his tweens. That's all.
Yeah, he just had to beat the shit out of his tweens. That's all.
I must give you a lashing now. Oh my God, it was so bad. Where'd you grow up? In Encino, which is, again, scarring, right? Yeah. I can't even drive through the valley, man, without having anxiety. Yeah, it's the world's biggest consolation prize.
I must give you a lashing now. Oh my God, it was so bad. Where'd you grow up? In Encino, which is, again, scarring, right? Yeah. I can't even drive through the valley, man, without having anxiety. Yeah, it's the world's biggest consolation prize.
That's pretty good too. It's an island for a reason. My parents would put all three of their kids in the car after they feathered our hair. and they put us in the same outfits. Like I remember this jean outfit from head to toe with all these studs all over it. So we were like- I wanted this family. We were props. Feather hair and denim. Right? And then-
That's pretty good too. It's an island for a reason. My parents would put all three of their kids in the car after they feathered our hair. and they put us in the same outfits. Like I remember this jean outfit from head to toe with all these studs all over it. So we were like- I wanted this family. We were props. Feather hair and denim. Right? And then-
They put us in the... I was thinking... No, no, no. It's horrible. They put us in the Jew canoe and they roll up the windows and they're smoking, chain smoking Marlboro Reds while their three minor children are in the car asphyxiating. And I'm Jewish. So you would think they'd be like against that, right? Asphyxiating their kids. And...
They put us in the... I was thinking... No, no, no. It's horrible. They put us in the Jew canoe and they roll up the windows and they're smoking, chain smoking Marlboro Reds while their three minor children are in the car asphyxiating. And I'm Jewish. So you would think they'd be like against that, right? Asphyxiating their kids. And...
Then the only time they opened the windows because my mom had this big pompadour, right? It was spray and wasn't moving. They rolled down the windows to throw the McDonald's, the poison that they were feeding their kids out on the freeway. So these are my parents. And that's the good part.
Then the only time they opened the windows because my mom had this big pompadour, right? It was spray and wasn't moving. They rolled down the windows to throw the McDonald's, the poison that they were feeding their kids out on the freeway. So these are my parents. And that's the good part.
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That's too good.
That's too good.
I gotta stop you for a second.
I gotta stop you for a second.
Because I've been dying to know something, okay? This is like really, like you had a bucket list, this is mine. Tell me about the tire iron, okay? That's all I care about.
Because I've been dying to know something, okay? This is like really, like you had a bucket list, this is mine. Tell me about the tire iron, okay? That's all I care about.
It is. When we're older, it's scary.
It is. When we're older, it's scary.
No, I got my ass kicked all the time.
No, I got my ass kicked all the time.
Now I heard that, but wait a minute, let's go back. You were in jail from 18 to 19. Yeah. Right. And then you immediately started to continue to do drugs until what age did you go into the sober living home? Until I was 28. Okay. So you lost nine years. Yeah. Just lost them. They're gone. Yeah. Nothing positive during that period of time. Yeah. Not moving up in your career, not nothing.
Now I heard that, but wait a minute, let's go back. You were in jail from 18 to 19. Yeah. Right. And then you immediately started to continue to do drugs until what age did you go into the sober living home? Until I was 28. Okay. So you lost nine years. Yeah. Just lost them. They're gone. Yeah. Nothing positive during that period of time. Yeah. Not moving up in your career, not nothing.
Straight to heaven. All right. How'd you get to the recovery center?
Straight to heaven. All right. How'd you get to the recovery center?
And then you had this internal compass to where you knew intuitively, I feel the pull, so I'm going that way. I go against what feels not good to me anymore. That's what I'm hearing. I'm just not going to go in the direction any longer that doesn't feel clean to me.
And then you had this internal compass to where you knew intuitively, I feel the pull, so I'm going that way. I go against what feels not good to me anymore. That's what I'm hearing. I'm just not going to go in the direction any longer that doesn't feel clean to me.
So you were genuinely remorseful. You genuinely had a spiritual experience in that. Nobody's going to believe it. I believe it a thousand percent because it's happened to me on many occasions. But go ahead and try to tell that to the average guy on the street. They look at us like we're insane. Right. Um, that's a beautiful story. Tell me about where you met your wife.
So you were genuinely remorseful. You genuinely had a spiritual experience in that. Nobody's going to believe it. I believe it a thousand percent because it's happened to me on many occasions. But go ahead and try to tell that to the average guy on the street. They look at us like we're insane. Right. Um, that's a beautiful story. Tell me about where you met your wife.
Cause I see that you, you always say, well, my wife and I, right. It's not you. It's, you know, you've referred to this as family business. Um, It's clear you're in love with your wife. How'd you meet your wife? At church. I met her at church. Okay, I swear I saw that coming.
Cause I see that you, you always say, well, my wife and I, right. It's not you. It's, you know, you've referred to this as family business. Um, It's clear you're in love with your wife. How'd you meet your wife? At church. I met her at church. Okay, I swear I saw that coming.
We would take them into the recovery homes. So you'd go pull people right off the street and put them in recovery homes. How could you pay for it? How were you able to afford to give these people the care that they needed?
We would take them into the recovery homes. So you'd go pull people right off the street and put them in recovery homes. How could you pay for it? How were you able to afford to give these people the care that they needed?
So there was no red tape. The church was just like, go bring these souls to us and let's care for them. That's exactly right. And you had other people. Dude, you're going to make me start crying. I don't even know what world I'm living in anymore.
So there was no red tape. The church was just like, go bring these souls to us and let's care for them. That's exactly right. And you had other people. Dude, you're going to make me start crying. I don't even know what world I'm living in anymore.
And I just beat the hell out of myself all the time because I can't do more. We can afford three people for free at a time to take care of, right? But it just, it never feels good, man. Anytime you leave someone behind, it never feels good. You know, that's why I love this church thing.
And I just beat the hell out of myself all the time because I can't do more. We can afford three people for free at a time to take care of, right? But it just, it never feels good, man. Anytime you leave someone behind, it never feels good. You know, that's why I love this church thing.
And when she was passing, I put her in this place and I went to see her that day. And she says, Richie, I don't want to be here. I want to be at home. With my family, I said, of course, I didn't know better. And I went in to the woman who owned the place and I'm like, look, I need all this stuff at her house. Oh, well, you've already paid for this and it costs more to be here.
And when she was passing, I put her in this place and I went to see her that day. And she says, Richie, I don't want to be here. I want to be at home. With my family, I said, of course, I didn't know better. And I went in to the woman who owned the place and I'm like, look, I need all this stuff at her house. Oh, well, you've already paid for this and it costs more to be here.
And I'm like, hey, I didn't ask you for anything back. We're freeing you up a room. Good for you. Just get her back home and we're going to have all this stuff there. Okay. She's like, no problem. So she's going to go the next day. And this chaplain comes in and he's talking to this woman. And Lydia just looks at me while he's in mid-sentence. And she says, I don't know this man.
And I'm like, hey, I didn't ask you for anything back. We're freeing you up a room. Good for you. Just get her back home and we're going to have all this stuff there. Okay. She's like, no problem. So she's going to go the next day. And this chaplain comes in and he's talking to this woman. And Lydia just looks at me while he's in mid-sentence. And she says, I don't know this man.
And I'm like, come on, please, please. And she listens to him for another 10 seconds. And she looks at me and she goes, I don't know this man. And he looks at me and he says, well, what does that mean? And I said, that means thanks for coming. So I showed her, so I showed the guy out and I'm like, what do you want from me?
And I'm like, come on, please, please. And she listens to him for another 10 seconds. And she looks at me and she goes, I don't know this man. And he looks at me and he says, well, what does that mean? And I said, that means thanks for coming. So I showed her, so I showed the guy out and I'm like, what do you want from me?
He's in a church in the valley. I don't know where it is and I do not know his name, but that's the man I want to see. So I'm like, no problem. I'll figure it out, honey. And I walk out of the room and I go right into the stairwell and I just start crying. Like, where am I going to find this guy?
He's in a church in the valley. I don't know where it is and I do not know his name, but that's the man I want to see. So I'm like, no problem. I'll figure it out, honey. And I walk out of the room and I go right into the stairwell and I just start crying. Like, where am I going to find this guy?
That is part of Mexican culture for sure. Yeah. That is the one thing. I was doing workers' comp law back in the day. And I was representing 16,000 Hispanics. Okay. It was rare where we did an MRI on somebody and didn't see anything.
That is part of Mexican culture for sure. Yeah. That is the one thing. I was doing workers' comp law back in the day. And I was representing 16,000 Hispanics. Okay. It was rare where we did an MRI on somebody and didn't see anything.
So it's been five years already. Every year, this man gets the same letter and a thousand dollars.
So it's been five years already. Every year, this man gets the same letter and a thousand dollars.
He was a godly man. And that's the difference. He would have said something to me like, I'm sorry, man, I can't do it because I got to prepare for this talk or that. Dude, you don't have to prepare for anything. Okay, what comes out of your mouth is what God wants out of your mouth. Get over here. And he did it.
He was a godly man. And that's the difference. He would have said something to me like, I'm sorry, man, I can't do it because I got to prepare for this talk or that. Dude, you don't have to prepare for anything. Okay, what comes out of your mouth is what God wants out of your mouth. Get over here. And he did it.
That's faith. Dude, I would have gone and grabbed him. That guy was coming. He had no choice. He just didn't. Put him in the van. He didn't know. He didn't know he had no choice. That guy was coming. Hop, tie him, throw him in the van. For sure. That's what I'm talking about. No, no. I would have duct taped him to a coffee table and just lifted the coffee table, put it right in the van.
That's faith. Dude, I would have gone and grabbed him. That guy was coming. He had no choice. He just didn't. Put him in the van. He didn't know. He didn't know he had no choice. That guy was coming. Hop, tie him, throw him in the van. For sure. That's what I'm talking about. No, no. I would have duct taped him to a coffee table and just lifted the coffee table, put it right in the van.
Yeah, that was a good man. All right. I appreciate you coming on the show and telling me about your story. Why? I mean, I'm grateful. Don't get me wrong, because it's what we do here. We're the redemption show, and you're a great story, fantastic story. But why here? Why did you decide to do this for us today? I believe in timing.
Yeah, that was a good man. All right. I appreciate you coming on the show and telling me about your story. Why? I mean, I'm grateful. Don't get me wrong, because it's what we do here. We're the redemption show, and you're a great story, fantastic story. But why here? Why did you decide to do this for us today? I believe in timing.
discs that were bulging or wow it was rare and they never said anything and the reason they never said anything is because the feeling is if i'm not hurt then i'm not really working that's that's the mindset that's the mindset yeah very now if you if you disrespect them in any way, shape or form, now you got a problem. Okay. But physically they're working with busted backs and everything.
discs that were bulging or wow it was rare and they never said anything and the reason they never said anything is because the feeling is if i'm not hurt then i'm not really working that's that's the mindset that's the mindset yeah very now if you if you disrespect them in any way, shape or form, now you got a problem. Okay. But physically they're working with busted backs and everything.
Dude, every day. From every woman I've ever been with.
Dude, every day. From every woman I've ever been with.
Did you get arrested when you were a kid? I was. Did you go to jail? I did.
Did you get arrested when you were a kid? I was. Did you go to jail? I did.
I didn't ask you if you were someone's girlfriend in jail. It's like I asked you if you went to jail. Drugs in jail usually go together. Yeah, yeah. Methamphetamine, man. That's, you are a miracle that you walked. How long did it, it must've taken you at least a year to two years to clear your head. Two years. Yeah. Two years.
I didn't ask you if you were someone's girlfriend in jail. It's like I asked you if you went to jail. Drugs in jail usually go together. Yeah, yeah. Methamphetamine, man. That's, you are a miracle that you walked. How long did it, it must've taken you at least a year to two years to clear your head. Two years. Yeah. Two years.
Are you really?
Are you really?
That's from the hood. That's, that's, that's not from the drugs. That's from, that's from, that's environmental. Okay. Yeah. That's, that's growing up with your head on a swivel. You know, you ain't parking next to a van. Right. Right. You were on a show called Flip or Flop. That's where I started. Yes. Flip or flop. Okay. And there were two other main characters on this as well.
That's from the hood. That's, that's, that's not from the drugs. That's from, that's from, that's environmental. Okay. Yeah. That's, that's growing up with your head on a swivel. You know, you ain't parking next to a van. Right. Right. You were on a show called Flip or Flop. That's where I started. Yes. Flip or flop. Okay. And there were two other main characters on this as well.
A guy named Tarek and somebody else. Christina. Christina and Tarek. Yes. And they were married. They were the talent. Yes. They were married. Okay. And then they got divorced. Yes. But they still stayed on the show. They still continue to make flip or flop. Okay. Yeah. And now they're no longer fighting. No. And they're like best friends. Co-parenting. Best friend co-parenting. Yeah. Right.
A guy named Tarek and somebody else. Christina. Christina and Tarek. Yes. And they were married. They were the talent. Yes. They were married. Okay. And then they got divorced. Yes. But they still stayed on the show. They still continue to make flip or flop. Okay. Yeah. And now they're no longer fighting. No. And they're like best friends. Co-parenting. Best friend co-parenting. Yeah. Right.
So they love each other, their family. Like they got to the other side of it. Remarkably. Yes. Now I hear that people are having a problem with that. Like they're not in this stuck in this Jerry Springer ask white trash nonsense, right? That they're actually created this evolvement, this environment that is beneficial to the children, right? Who's having a problem with this?
So they love each other, their family. Like they got to the other side of it. Remarkably. Yes. Now I hear that people are having a problem with that. Like they're not in this stuck in this Jerry Springer ask white trash nonsense, right? That they're actually created this evolvement, this environment that is beneficial to the children, right? Who's having a problem with this?
Season one came out. And so this was about... But this was already when they got to the other side. Once they got to the other side. But the ratings must have been through the roof when they were arguing. Right? Because everybody- Don't people love that? People love the train wreck, don't they? Yeah, they love the train wreck, man.
Season one came out. And so this was about... But this was already when they got to the other side. Once they got to the other side. But the ratings must have been through the roof when they were arguing. Right? Because everybody- Don't people love that? People love the train wreck, don't they? Yeah, they love the train wreck, man.
And so the ratings were through the roof and now they're loving each other. And how are the ratings? Ratings are great. Really? Yeah. They don't need like an antagonist to walk in and stir up some nonsense? Well, you'll still have a little bit of that in this show, right? You'll still have a little bit. Who's that guy? Who's the shit disturber? Yeah.
And so the ratings were through the roof and now they're loving each other. And how are the ratings? Ratings are great. Really? Yeah. They don't need like an antagonist to walk in and stir up some nonsense? Well, you'll still have a little bit of that in this show, right? You'll still have a little bit. Who's that guy? Who's the shit disturber? Yeah.
So yeah, that's, that's their, that's their MO. That's, that's the thing. Yeah. So you had that example of the father who did that. So you knew how to work.
So yeah, that's, that's their, that's their MO. That's, that's the thing. Yeah. So you had that example of the father who did that. So you knew how to work.
And she's got a better man now? She's got a better man. She's got another man? She has another guy. And he's got another woman? He has another woman?
And she's got a better man now? She's got a better man. She's got another man? She has another guy. And he's got another woman? He has another woman?
Yeah. Heather. Yeah. He's already got kids. These guys just don't miss a beat. It's like next up. Who's on deck, who's in the hall, right?
Yeah. Heather. Yeah. He's already got kids. These guys just don't miss a beat. It's like next up. Who's on deck, who's in the hall, right?
Tell me where it came from. Tell me where it came from. It came from your name, Izzy Does It. But where did that originate from? Izzy.
Tell me where it came from. Tell me where it came from. It came from your name, Izzy Does It. But where did that originate from? Izzy.
1980s gangster rap. So how old are you? I'm 52. Okay. So we're kind of in the same thing. Yeah. He made a song called Eazy Does It. Really? Eazy Does It. Yeah. Nice. Go hit that track later on. Make sure there's no kids around. I don't think you can play that on the outro, right? We got hammered for that. Yeah. What do you call that? Copyrights. Yeah. Copyrights. Weak. Okay. Can't even play that.
1980s gangster rap. So how old are you? I'm 52. Okay. So we're kind of in the same thing. Yeah. He made a song called Eazy Does It. Really? Eazy Does It. Yeah. Nice. Go hit that track later on. Make sure there's no kids around. I don't think you can play that on the outro, right? We got hammered for that. Yeah. What do you call that? Copyrights. Yeah. Copyrights. Weak. Okay. Can't even play that.
What I really want to know is, yeah, Flip and Flop was the first show that made you famous. Flip or Flop. Yeah. What's it called? Flip or Flop. What did I say?
What I really want to know is, yeah, Flip and Flop was the first show that made you famous. Flip or Flop. Yeah. What's it called? Flip or Flop. What did I say?
worst. Thank God for editing.
worst. Thank God for editing.
I'm so bad at this. I suck so bad. He's thank God for him. This is so horrible.
I'm so bad at this. I suck so bad. He's thank God for him. This is so horrible.
When you did Flip or Flop, that, you know, your first show, it made you famous. Dude, what's it like to be famous from not being famous? I mean, I just like that when the light hits and you're like, oh shit, I'm a thing.
When you did Flip or Flop, that, you know, your first show, it made you famous. Dude, what's it like to be famous from not being famous? I mean, I just like that when the light hits and you're like, oh shit, I'm a thing.
Oh, Taylor Swift. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's famous. That's what I think. Right. Okay. But the Pope's nowhere near as famous as Taylor Swift.
Oh, Taylor Swift. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's famous. That's what I think. Right. Okay. But the Pope's nowhere near as famous as Taylor Swift.
Right. Yeah. Right. So if we're not, so if you're not a Taylor Swift, you're nobody.
Right. Yeah. Right. So if we're not, so if you're not a Taylor Swift, you're nobody.
Did you do my, did you do my what? Do you, do you do my lawn? Where do I know you from? That's so good. Do you know if I would have said that I would have been canceled. Okay. But you know, actually I can't be canceled. Tell me about the new show and your family. And it's called what? The Kardashians? The Kardashians. Yeah. That's exactly what it is.
Did you do my, did you do my what? Do you, do you do my lawn? Where do I know you from? That's so good. Do you know if I would have said that I would have been canceled. Okay. But you know, actually I can't be canceled. Tell me about the new show and your family. And it's called what? The Kardashians? The Kardashians. Yeah. That's exactly what it is.
Do they start it off with you and a hammer making big rocks into little rocks?
Do they start it off with you and a hammer making big rocks into little rocks?
That's so cool, man. It is cool. There's nothing cooler than that because you teach your kids how to fish, man, and they don't ever have to worry about anything. See, that goes back to what we were talking about at the beginning about the grit and, you know, you're actually showing them how to do this. That is so cool. You know,
That's so cool, man. It is cool. There's nothing cooler than that because you teach your kids how to fish, man, and they don't ever have to worry about anything. See, that goes back to what we were talking about at the beginning about the grit and, you know, you're actually showing them how to do this. That is so cool. You know,
Tell me about what your daughter's doing because I'm so fascinated by it. I love the fact that you're working with your daughter and she's doing the social media stuff because you could have gotten anybody to do that, right? But nobody's ever going to do it for you like your baby girl.
Tell me about what your daughter's doing because I'm so fascinated by it. I love the fact that you're working with your daughter and she's doing the social media stuff because you could have gotten anybody to do that, right? But nobody's ever going to do it for you like your baby girl.
And then she's in love with her daddy. So nobody's going to be the cheerleader for you the way your daughter will be.
And then she's in love with her daddy. So nobody's going to be the cheerleader for you the way your daughter will be.
Right. Or she's. In all fairness, we don't know. We don't know. How would we know? Yeah. I mean, you get a like, and you're supposed to be like this. Really? What would be the one piece of advice you would give somebody who is struggling with drugs and alcohol?
Right. Or she's. In all fairness, we don't know. We don't know. How would we know? Yeah. I mean, you get a like, and you're supposed to be like this. Really? What would be the one piece of advice you would give somebody who is struggling with drugs and alcohol?
I'm scared about that, though, man, because, you know. 10 years ago, I'd say, yeah, absolutely. You're a thousand percent correct. Now I'm scared. I'm on the fence because, you know, all the street drugs have fentanyl in it. Yeah. Now 70% of them, right? So people are dying or these accidental overdoses. So I get scared. I don't, I, I try to talk them out of that, out of that last run.
I'm scared about that, though, man, because, you know. 10 years ago, I'd say, yeah, absolutely. You're a thousand percent correct. Now I'm scared. I'm on the fence because, you know, all the street drugs have fentanyl in it. Yeah. Now 70% of them, right? So people are dying or these accidental overdoses. So I get scared. I don't, I, I try to talk them out of that, out of that last run.
It's the street. The street drugs are killing everybody. If you're not getting prescription drugs from a pharmacy- or weed from a dispensary, you're dead. It's not if, it's when. And that's the part, that's why I'm so grateful that you're here, man, because people love you.
It's the street. The street drugs are killing everybody. If you're not getting prescription drugs from a pharmacy- or weed from a dispensary, you're dead. It's not if, it's when. And that's the part, that's why I'm so grateful that you're here, man, because people love you.
His dad was drug dealing. He can't say it.
His dad was drug dealing. He can't say it.
People just love you, you know, and this is powerful, especially in your community because you know how, how it is in your community. Very proud. Okay. Never want to look bad. Right. Okay. Embarrassed that you have a child like this.
People just love you, you know, and this is powerful, especially in your community because you know how, how it is in your community. Very proud. Okay. Never want to look bad. Right. Okay. Embarrassed that you have a child like this.
right who's struggling and you can't save your ass and your face at the same time that that's impossible you have to choose you know yeah i think you become you you have to become vulnerable right for sure you and that takes humility and um
right who's struggling and you can't save your ass and your face at the same time that that's impossible you have to choose you know yeah i think you become you you have to become vulnerable right for sure you and that takes humility and um
Yeah. Well, the good news is, is that if you're not humble, you get beaten into a state of reasonableness.
Yeah. Well, the good news is, is that if you're not humble, you get beaten into a state of reasonableness.
Yeah. So you get there, whether you're that humble guy or you're not. What keeps you grounded these days? I know the answer. It's going to be perfect. But what keeps you grounded these days?
Yeah. So you get there, whether you're that humble guy or you're not. What keeps you grounded these days? I know the answer. It's going to be perfect. But what keeps you grounded these days?
Oh, so these are both the kids she brought into the marriage. Yeah. You're like Kenny. You're exactly like Kenny. My ex's boyfriend loves my children every bit as much as he loves his own.
Oh, so these are both the kids she brought into the marriage. Yeah. You're like Kenny. You're exactly like Kenny. My ex's boyfriend loves my children every bit as much as he loves his own.
No, there are eight houses up the street with my ex-wife, who is my best friend, okay, in the world, okay? I'm like her 67th best friend. But I don't care. She's my best friend. And her man is the closest thing I have to a brother. I mean, he's like, I love him more than anything. Wow. Because I've never met a man ever this good. And his name is Kenny. Yeah. All right. Dr. Kenneth Spielvogel.
No, there are eight houses up the street with my ex-wife, who is my best friend, okay, in the world, okay? I'm like her 67th best friend. But I don't care. She's my best friend. And her man is the closest thing I have to a brother. I mean, he's like, I love him more than anything. Wow. Because I've never met a man ever this good. And his name is Kenny. Yeah. All right. Dr. Kenneth Spielvogel.
He's Jewish. I got a Jew baby doctor, but it doesn't get better than that. Okay. And he's sitting there right with my kids. My kids got a sniffle. I'm good. Wow. Uh-huh.
He's Jewish. I got a Jew baby doctor, but it doesn't get better than that. Okay. And he's sitting there right with my kids. My kids got a sniffle. I'm good. Wow. Uh-huh.
Yeah, so you guys are making it work. Making it work. Everywhere I'm weak, he's strong. Everywhere I'm strong, he's weak. We're like the perfect man together.
Yeah, so you guys are making it work. Making it work. Everywhere I'm weak, he's strong. Everywhere I'm strong, he's weak. We're like the perfect man together.
Absolutely, man. Absolutely. You know how people say it's good to be gotten, right? It feels that's part of the attraction. When you meet somebody, you guys get each other. Okay. There's a quality of that in therapy, right?
Absolutely, man. Absolutely. You know how people say it's good to be gotten, right? It feels that's part of the attraction. When you meet somebody, you guys get each other. Okay. There's a quality of that in therapy, right?
Are we ready to make news? Yeah, let's do it. All right. Give me something newsworthy that nobody knows.
Are we ready to make news? Yeah, let's do it. All right. Give me something newsworthy that nobody knows.
I heard that it was rated in the top 10 of all HGTV shows.
I heard that it was rated in the top 10 of all HGTV shows.
If you can go back and talk to your younger self, what would you say?
If you can go back and talk to your younger self, what would you say?
So I've got a friend in the other room who is a huge fan of yours. Her name's Karen. Do you mind if I ask her to come in and ask you one question? Is that cool?
So I've got a friend in the other room who is a huge fan of yours. Her name's Karen. Do you mind if I ask her to come in and ask you one question? Is that cool?
That's awesome.
That's awesome.
Hey, man, nobody's got more patience than you. You are a patient, kind soul. Thank you for coming. I appreciate that. Thank you. How can people find you? Hey.
Hey, man, nobody's got more patience than you. You are a patient, kind soul. Thank you for coming. I appreciate that. Thank you. How can people find you? Hey.
There it is.
There it is.
I'm scared of how I'm doing it with my kids. I like the way your dad did it with you, you know, because you're too soft with your kid. Yeah. I mean, but he's, he's a good kid. Right. So it's like, what am I, I'm just scared about grit and resilience. Right. Like we have it because we had to. right? It, it scares me. You know, there's this guy came on here. His name is, what's his name? Shin.
I'm scared of how I'm doing it with my kids. I like the way your dad did it with you, you know, because you're too soft with your kid. Yeah. I mean, but he's, he's a good kid. Right. So it's like, what am I, I'm just scared about grit and resilience. Right. Like we have it because we had to. right? It, it scares me. You know, there's this guy came on here. His name is, what's his name? Shin.
What's his first name? Jimmy Shin. Okay. He's a, a world renowned comedian. And he said, Tough times make strong people. Strong people make good times. Good times make weak people. Right? Weak people create hard times and on and on. And so it scares me sometimes. I don't know if I'm getting it right or not.
What's his first name? Jimmy Shin. Okay. He's a, a world renowned comedian. And he said, Tough times make strong people. Strong people make good times. Good times make weak people. Right? Weak people create hard times and on and on. And so it scares me sometimes. I don't know if I'm getting it right or not.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Is that like the carrot and the stick? Yeah. There you go. Cause I don't know if I want to get hit with a rod or a towel. Like, like is the towel wet?
Is that like the carrot and the stick? Yeah. There you go. Cause I don't know if I want to get hit with a rod or a towel. Like, like is the towel wet?
Wow. You're farther along than I am and you're working with your daughter. And so that's a good sign. Like when your kids want to work with you, you raised them right. So, but you got along good with your parents, right? Oh yeah.
Wow. You're farther along than I am and you're working with your daughter. And so that's a good sign. Like when your kids want to work with you, you raised them right. So, but you got along good with your parents, right? Oh yeah.
So you mentioned facing addiction early on. What was that chapter like in your life? Um...
So you mentioned facing addiction early on. What was that chapter like in your life? Um...
I just stopped. I love that you said that. I love that you said that because it is fun. It starts off all fun. Then you graduate to fun with problems and then you graduate to all problems. Sorry, I interrupted you. I just love the honest.
I just stopped. I love that you said that. I love that you said that because it is fun. It starts off all fun. Then you graduate to fun with problems and then you graduate to all problems. Sorry, I interrupted you. I just love the honest.
Yeah. Yeah. You got to check her past, my man. Yeah. Smoking PCP is the real thing. Back in the hood, it was so inexpensive.
Yeah. Yeah. You got to check her past, my man. Yeah. Smoking PCP is the real thing. Back in the hood, it was so inexpensive.
Izzy. Yes, sir. Thank you for coming today. This is a big deal. And I'm very grateful to you. Well, thank you for inviting me out here. And I was looking forward to this. Yeah. All right. So I want to go through a little story for the people that may or may not know who you are. Tell me about your childhood.
Izzy. Yes, sir. Thank you for coming today. This is a big deal. And I'm very grateful to you. Well, thank you for inviting me out here. And I was looking forward to this. Yeah. All right. So I want to go through a little story for the people that may or may not know who you are. Tell me about your childhood.
It was. Dude, everybody loves you. Everybody's shocked right now. Right? Yeah. The next thing you know. Listen, it's not like he has a ice cream truck parked in front of his house. Okay. It's come on. This isn't the worst thing in the world.
It was. Dude, everybody loves you. Everybody's shocked right now. Right? Yeah. The next thing you know. Listen, it's not like he has a ice cream truck parked in front of his house. Okay. It's come on. This isn't the worst thing in the world.
Wow. That is a good man. He was willing to go to any length. Do you know his name? I don't know his name. He's a star.
Wow. That is a good man. He was willing to go to any length. Do you know his name? I don't know his name. He's a star.
Really? Yeah. They wouldn't let somebody who was convicted, right? Convicted, yeah. Of armed robbery. Was that what it was? Strong arm. Strong arm robbery. Well, you would think that's kind of like what we want in our soldiers, no? No. There's a little bit of violence. Yeah. We want our soldiers violent, but we don't take violent people into the military. Yeah. Can we get back to common sense now?
Really? Yeah. They wouldn't let somebody who was convicted, right? Convicted, yeah. Of armed robbery. Was that what it was? Strong arm. Strong arm robbery. Well, you would think that's kind of like what we want in our soldiers, no? No. There's a little bit of violence. Yeah. We want our soldiers violent, but we don't take violent people into the military. Yeah. Can we get back to common sense now?
I mean, it only sounds stupid when you say it out loud, right? It does. It does. Okay. All right. This is okay. So you spent time in a recovery home. Mm-hmm. How did that come about?
I mean, it only sounds stupid when you say it out loud, right? It does. It does. Okay. All right. This is okay. So you spent time in a recovery home. Mm-hmm. How did that come about?
How long were you doing that for? 10 years? Yeah. You're unusually clear. Yeah. Normally when people do meth for that long, they never make it back. They don't have that clarity and the presence and the connection that you have. They're all over the place. So with...
How long were you doing that for? 10 years? Yeah. You're unusually clear. Yeah. Normally when people do meth for that long, they never make it back. They don't have that clarity and the presence and the connection that you have. They're all over the place. So with...
as part of your um well that's what you would give a lot of credit to the way you feel and walk through life right now with it i don't see you struggling through life is what i'm trying to say i see you colliding through life based on the work and the maintenance that you do all the time i wish i could say that it was gliding um
as part of your um well that's what you would give a lot of credit to the way you feel and walk through life right now with it i don't see you struggling through life is what i'm trying to say i see you colliding through life based on the work and the maintenance that you do all the time i wish i could say that it was gliding um
Before we get to the step work, tell me about the benefits.
Before we get to the step work, tell me about the benefits.
Well, thank you. Yeah, it's good to be here or anywhere for that matter. Let me ask you a question, man. You were such a massive success. One of the biggest voices in America. How did drugs and alcohol fit into that? And were you using while you were working or was it just an off the clock thing?
Well, thank you. Yeah, it's good to be here or anywhere for that matter. Let me ask you a question, man. You were such a massive success. One of the biggest voices in America. How did drugs and alcohol fit into that? And were you using while you were working or was it just an off the clock thing?
Yeah. Everybody just got a doctorate on what it's like to be really self-care. That's what that is.
Yeah. Everybody just got a doctorate on what it's like to be really self-care. That's what that is.
The public sees them as horrifying. But when we sit in a room in AA and we're listening to this, we're hysterical.
The public sees them as horrifying. But when we sit in a room in AA and we're listening to this, we're hysterical.
Life is good. I always tell that to people. I always say, and everybody does, but it's the truth. If it was a better deal to get loaded, then I would be loaded. You know, in AA, we both love AA. I love AA. But I haven't been in 20 years. I haven't been. I said something the other day in a room full of doctors and psychologists.
Life is good. I always tell that to people. I always say, and everybody does, but it's the truth. If it was a better deal to get loaded, then I would be loaded. You know, in AA, we both love AA. I love AA. But I haven't been in 20 years. I haven't been. I said something the other day in a room full of doctors and psychologists.
They were saying something, I don't remember what they were talking about, but I said, look, unless you can give someone a life that is better or more valuable than the life they had when they came into treatment, they can't stay sober forever. The end. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of those people were in AA and they didn't like what I had to say.
They were saying something, I don't remember what they were talking about, but I said, look, unless you can give someone a life that is better or more valuable than the life they had when they came into treatment, they can't stay sober forever. The end. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of those people were in AA and they didn't like what I had to say.
And they didn't like what I had to say because it wasn't one of the things that they've heard over the last 30 years in a room from a podium or from the shares. And I was like thinking to myself, man, The problem with alcoholics is that everyone who's sober thinks they're an expert on alcoholism and recovery, and they're not. They're only an expert on their own recovery.
And they didn't like what I had to say because it wasn't one of the things that they've heard over the last 30 years in a room from a podium or from the shares. And I was like thinking to myself, man, The problem with alcoholics is that everyone who's sober thinks they're an expert on alcoholism and recovery, and they're not. They're only an expert on their own recovery.
I learned. And it was intuitive. I learned the difference between AA and treatment before I got into treatment was when you walked into treatment, it was tough love. And when you walked into AA, whether they knew it or not, it was all love. Right? Because you walk into AA, it is the worst day of your life. No question. In that moment, you're a loser and your life came to this. Right.
I learned. And it was intuitive. I learned the difference between AA and treatment before I got into treatment was when you walked into treatment, it was tough love. And when you walked into AA, whether they knew it or not, it was all love. Right? Because you walk into AA, it is the worst day of your life. No question. In that moment, you're a loser and your life came to this. Right.
And you are full of nothing but shame. Yeah. And intuitively, these guys just knew, come on, get over here. Shh. you're going to be fine. I promise. And that's what I took from AA into our place because these people are so shame-based coming in that to kick a horse when they're down makes absolutely no sense to me at all. None. Love is everything.
And you are full of nothing but shame. Yeah. And intuitively, these guys just knew, come on, get over here. Shh. you're going to be fine. I promise. And that's what I took from AA into our place because these people are so shame-based coming in that to kick a horse when they're down makes absolutely no sense to me at all. None. Love is everything.
And I got that from AA because when I walked into AA, Nobody wanted me around. I was such an asshole when I got to AA because my model was so bad. I didn't have any friends. I had to make you feel bad in order to make me feel good. Polar opposite of what they teach us in the AA community. And one guy walked up to me and he said, hey, baby. I said, yeah.
And I got that from AA because when I walked into AA, Nobody wanted me around. I was such an asshole when I got to AA because my model was so bad. I didn't have any friends. I had to make you feel bad in order to make me feel good. Polar opposite of what they teach us in the AA community. And one guy walked up to me and he said, hey, baby. I said, yeah.
He said, you don't need to make that guy feel bad and make yourself feel good. You're perfect just the way you are. Come here. Gave me a hug, handed me a Cuban cigar. We smoked, bought me dinner because I didn't have, so poor I couldn't pay attention, right? A is the best thing that ever happened to me because I've got two children that I'm in love with, thank God, right?
He said, you don't need to make that guy feel bad and make yourself feel good. You're perfect just the way you are. Come here. Gave me a hug, handed me a Cuban cigar. We smoked, bought me dinner because I didn't have, so poor I couldn't pay attention, right? A is the best thing that ever happened to me because I've got two children that I'm in love with, thank God, right?
What would you say to parents today that have children that are using with the dangers on the street right now.
What would you say to parents today that have children that are using with the dangers on the street right now.
Yeah. I tell people to seek treatment right away. I don't care where they get it. If they're younger and it's just started, I tell them to get a therapist right away. Okay. Once a week for their kid and once a week for their kid with the parent that they're most aligned with. Okay. Yeah, man, I'm scared. I'm scared. It's different now.
Yeah. I tell people to seek treatment right away. I don't care where they get it. If they're younger and it's just started, I tell them to get a therapist right away. Okay. Once a week for their kid and once a week for their kid with the parent that they're most aligned with. Okay. Yeah, man, I'm scared. I'm scared. It's different now.
You know, 15 years ago, you're having a conversation with me about this. I don't really care. You know, and I owned Cliffside because I didn't have a child yet. Second, you have a child, you know what love is, right? You don't know what love is before you have a child. You think you do, but you don't really know. Right?
You know, 15 years ago, you're having a conversation with me about this. I don't really care. You know, and I owned Cliffside because I didn't have a child yet. Second, you have a child, you know what love is, right? You don't know what love is before you have a child. You think you do, but you don't really know. Right?
Do you have anything you want to say?
Do you have anything you want to say?
That's such a great thing. I wish you nothing but the best and I can't wait till it comes out.
That's such a great thing. I wish you nothing but the best and I can't wait till it comes out.
The only person I've ever known who got fatter while on cocaine was Sarge.
The only person I've ever known who got fatter while on cocaine was Sarge.
Everyone, I wanted to introduce you to somebody who I saw in probably one of my first AA meetings ever. Shadow Stevens, the legend, the voice of television and radio. When I was younger and just an absolute icon, man, like most beautiful voice, most talented man. Please stop, stop, stop. No more, no more, please.
Everyone, I wanted to introduce you to somebody who I saw in probably one of my first AA meetings ever. Shadow Stevens, the legend, the voice of television and radio. When I was younger and just an absolute icon, man, like most beautiful voice, most talented man. Please stop, stop, stop. No more, no more, please.
You know, it's like... Dude, he should do a commercial for something for us. Like, seriously, he's a genius. So go on. You don't understand what these commercials were like. I mean, at a time where, you know, you'd have my dad doing commercials, 993-9999, right? Custom craft carpets. And then the next on television would be this guy, Cal Worthington, and his dog, Spawn. So, and then federated.
You know, it's like... Dude, he should do a commercial for something for us. Like, seriously, he's a genius. So go on. You don't understand what these commercials were like. I mean, at a time where, you know, you'd have my dad doing commercials, 993-9999, right? Custom craft carpets. And then the next on television would be this guy, Cal Worthington, and his dog, Spawn. So, and then federated.
So those are the three commercials that you would see all the time.
So those are the three commercials that you would see all the time.
Socket circus. Well, this is obviously a case of artificial intelligence misdrive.
Socket circus. Well, this is obviously a case of artificial intelligence misdrive.
I was telling you before this, you started talking to me and the only thing I could think of, I couldn't hear what you were saying. And the only thing I could think was, oh my God, he's got such a beautiful voice. And that is cute. So you kind of like a pretty girl, right? Like she can be as smart, as sharp as a tack, right? And you just can't hear her. So it's kind of like that. Sucks for you.
I was telling you before this, you started talking to me and the only thing I could think of, I couldn't hear what you were saying. And the only thing I could think was, oh my God, he's got such a beautiful voice. And that is cute. So you kind of like a pretty girl, right? Like she can be as smart, as sharp as a tack, right? And you just can't hear her. So it's kind of like that. Sucks for you.
I know it's funny. Right. No, that is so my fault. That is so my fault. I stand corrected. Keep it in though.
I know it's funny. Right. No, that is so my fault. That is so my fault. I stand corrected. Keep it in though.
You do Xanies?
You do Xanies?
Yeah, but you got to bite it down. When you bite it, bite it and pull. Now, don't bite the out of it like a botch. Like that. That's it.
Yeah, but you got to bite it down. When you bite it, bite it and pull. Now, don't bite the out of it like a botch. Like that. That's it.
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Did you hurt anybody? No.
Did you hurt anybody? No.
Okay.
Okay.
How long do you have sober now?
How long do you have sober now?
Okay. So it's three years ago. Yeah. I'm sorry. I interrupted.
Okay. So it's three years ago. Yeah. I'm sorry. I interrupted.
I don't think so. It's hard to have a connection with your old man when, you know, there's not a meeting of the minds, you know, and I know that hurts.
I don't think so. It's hard to have a connection with your old man when, you know, there's not a meeting of the minds, you know, and I know that hurts.
And he said, who the hell was that guy in your car?
And he said, who the hell was that guy in your car?
But that's not as funny.
But that's not as funny.
Let's go. Really like him gone.
Let's go. Really like him gone.
Now, this is a perfect example of friendship.
Now, this is a perfect example of friendship.
Do you shoot any of the animal tranquilizer?
Do you shoot any of the animal tranquilizer?
There's definitely a way they can do that.
There's definitely a way they can do that.
If I had a nickel for every veterinarian that I've treated, I'd be living in lower Bel Air. I'm not even kidding.
If I had a nickel for every veterinarian that I've treated, I'd be living in lower Bel Air. I'm not even kidding.
Lame. And now you realize that's what's cool changes. Yeah. Right? And those guys are all in either jail, prison, rehab, or mental hospitals. Or they peaked at 17. Or they peaked at 17.
Lame. And now you realize that's what's cool changes. Yeah. Right? And those guys are all in either jail, prison, rehab, or mental hospitals. Or they peaked at 17. Or they peaked at 17.
When did you realize you could sign your own cards?
When did you realize you could sign your own cards?
Do you know what's funny? Nobody figures that out. Nobody. And you people don't know what I'm talking about. Go on.
Do you know what's funny? Nobody figures that out. Nobody. And you people don't know what I'm talking about. Go on.
He's just checking to see if you're still single. This guy's 15 minutes are up.
He's just checking to see if you're still single. This guy's 15 minutes are up.
How sweet of you to think that.
How sweet of you to think that.
Did you ever go to rehab? You didn't. So it clicked. How did it click? Do you start going to AA? Do you have a therapist? What did you do to get the support to stay sober? You were drinking every day. Yeah. And Coke.
Did you ever go to rehab? You didn't. So it clicked. How did it click? Do you start going to AA? Do you have a therapist? What did you do to get the support to stay sober? You were drinking every day. Yeah. And Coke.
An eight ball.
An eight ball.
It's three and a half grams.
It's three and a half grams.
Is that 30 or 45 days for Lent?
Is that 30 or 45 days for Lent?
We should talk about this for another 10 minutes because it's riveting. Yeah, right.
We should talk about this for another 10 minutes because it's riveting. Yeah, right.
God wanted you to do that for you, not for him.
God wanted you to do that for you, not for him.
Hey, you got a lot of followers, right?
Hey, you got a lot of followers, right?
What would you tell these kids today who are running around buying drugs on the street?
What would you tell these kids today who are running around buying drugs on the street?
Mr. Tate, where can we reach you? Where can people find you?
Mr. Tate, where can we reach you? Where can people find you?
Okay. Now, I need you to look into that camera.
Okay. Now, I need you to look into that camera.
And in Spanish, I need you to say, see you next Tuesday.
And in Spanish, I need you to say, see you next Tuesday.
Before you leave this podcast, you're going to tell me why you got jumped. That is the only thing I want to hear. And I can tell you now.
Before you leave this podcast, you're going to tell me why you got jumped. That is the only thing I want to hear. And I can tell you now.
You got jumped by girls? Where was this?
You got jumped by girls? Where was this?
Where? What city?
Where? What city?
So this guy, this, will you tell me what happened? I mean, this is just, this is pissing me off.
So this guy, this, will you tell me what happened? I mean, this is just, this is pissing me off.
Before you leave this podcast, you're going to tell me why you got chucked. That is the only thing I want to hear. I can tell you now.
Before you leave this podcast, you're going to tell me why you got chucked. That is the only thing I want to hear. I can tell you now.
You were a bitch and got your ass kicked by three of your friends.
You were a bitch and got your ass kicked by three of your friends.
Wow, that's a Jerry Springer moment.
Wow, that's a Jerry Springer moment.
But wait a minute. Hold on a second. You got your ass kicked while you were drunk or loaded or-
But wait a minute. Hold on a second. You got your ass kicked while you were drunk or loaded or-
Excellent. Well, that's what happens when you drink. Through high school and now you're into college, now you're doing cocaine. Tell me about the drug use and what it was like and the wreckage you created.
Excellent. Well, that's what happens when you drink. Through high school and now you're into college, now you're doing cocaine. Tell me about the drug use and what it was like and the wreckage you created.
Import modeling?
Import modeling?
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
Were you smoking it?
Were you smoking it?
Have you ever smoked it?
Have you ever smoked it?
Have you ever shot it?
Have you ever shot it?
Have you ever shot any drugs?
Have you ever shot any drugs?
Okay. Yeah. And so when you were doing cocaine, you were doing it with guys, right? Yeah.
Okay. Yeah. And so when you were doing cocaine, you were doing it with guys, right? Yeah.
And girls. Did guys ever hold that against you, keep drugs from you for sex?
And girls. Did guys ever hold that against you, keep drugs from you for sex?
Not once.
Not once.
Okay. Well, you're lucky. That happens to everybody. Can I just tell you, you started off by saying this and you were very insistent on saying it. Yeah. You made it a point twice. Let's talk about how your parents did the best they could. Can I tell you how I resolve that for me? Because my parents were idiots.
Okay. Well, you're lucky. That happens to everybody. Can I just tell you, you started off by saying this and you were very insistent on saying it. Yeah. You made it a point twice. Let's talk about how your parents did the best they could. Can I tell you how I resolve that for me? Because my parents were idiots.
Okay. I resolve it by saying this. At 16 years old, my father got in a car through his belongings in there and drove from Detroit to LA.
Okay. I resolve it by saying this. At 16 years old, my father got in a car through his belongings in there and drove from Detroit to LA.
I mean, I'd want to light myself on fire if I was born in Detroit, right? I mean, that wasn't a good time for him. I got to live 58 years in LA and who knows if I would have had the courage to come out. I don't know. You know? So when you think about your parents at 18, coming from another country, probably not speaking English.
I mean, I'd want to light myself on fire if I was born in Detroit, right? I mean, that wasn't a good time for him. I got to live 58 years in LA and who knows if I would have had the courage to come out. I don't know. You know? So when you think about your parents at 18, coming from another country, probably not speaking English.
And if they did not well with probably little to no money, no way to make a living, nowhere to live. Okay. Your parents are stars because you can always tell a good parent by their children. And I can't imagine your parents not being extremely bright. So your parents, you don't ever have to qualify that again because your parents are star players. Okay. All right, man.
And if they did not well with probably little to no money, no way to make a living, nowhere to live. Okay. Your parents are stars because you can always tell a good parent by their children. And I can't imagine your parents not being extremely bright. So your parents, you don't ever have to qualify that again because your parents are star players. Okay. All right, man.
Don't you want to hear what it was like?
Don't you want to hear what it was like?
Well, you're close with your father, right?
Well, you're close with your father, right?
Because that's not him.
Because that's not him.
Is he, I'm sorry, wait, wait, what did she say? She say he does alcohol?
Is he, I'm sorry, wait, wait, what did she say? She say he does alcohol?
And is he still drinking? Yeah. Does he want to get sober?
And is he still drinking? Yeah. Does he want to get sober?
Will you do me a favor? If he ever wants to get sober, will you call Jason and Jason will have him put on the phone with me so that we can, you know, deal with this once and for all.
Will you do me a favor? If he ever wants to get sober, will you call Jason and Jason will have him put on the phone with me so that we can, you know, deal with this once and for all.
Okay. Cause it's hard to have a connection with your old man when, you know, there's not a meeting of the minds, you know, and I know that hurts.
Okay. Cause it's hard to have a connection with your old man when, you know, there's not a meeting of the minds, you know, and I know that hurts.
I mean... I want to hear what it was like, and then what happened, and what it's like now. Don't you?
I mean... I want to hear what it was like, and then what happened, and what it's like now. Don't you?
Can I tell you what you're feeling right now?
Can I tell you what you're feeling right now?
Did you hurt anybody?
Did you hurt anybody?
So we're hardwired to love our parents. We'll never love our parents the way our parents love us. Okay. But we're hardwired to love our parents.
So we're hardwired to love our parents. We'll never love our parents the way our parents love us. Okay. But we're hardwired to love our parents.
And I did the same thing you did. I would get immeasurably distressed. I would be beyond consolable because I fantasized about the parents that I wanted instead of the parents that I had. And once I understood that they actually did do the best they could.
And I did the same thing you did. I would get immeasurably distressed. I would be beyond consolable because I fantasized about the parents that I wanted instead of the parents that I had. And once I understood that they actually did do the best they could.
Great. And so... you're never going to get all of your needs met. And they're going to check every box. But the high level from 30,000 feet, Great job. Great job. And I'm sorry your dad can't really connect with you. A lot of that is cultural. Very macho culture.
Great. And so... you're never going to get all of your needs met. And they're going to check every box. But the high level from 30,000 feet, Great job. Great job. And I'm sorry your dad can't really connect with you. A lot of that is cultural. Very macho culture.
Right? So that's tough on a little girl who's just found evolvement.
Right? So that's tough on a little girl who's just found evolvement.
okay because you know your father along in that than your parents but you want to know what sweetie we're supposed to be yeah because we're better than our parents and our children are going to be better than us and their children are going to be better than us and we want that for everybody okay now i'm serious well that's important stuff and i think that's a part of
okay because you know your father along in that than your parents but you want to know what sweetie we're supposed to be yeah because we're better than our parents and our children are going to be better than us and their children are going to be better than us and we want that for everybody okay now i'm serious well that's important stuff and i think that's a part of
Just you want to get sober?
Just you want to get sober?
How'd you get sober?
How'd you get sober?
Did you hurt anybody?
Did you hurt anybody?
Dylan, I just figured out why nobody works anymore. They're all working, but they're not going into an office. They're not working for employers.
Dylan, I just figured out why nobody works anymore. They're all working, but they're not going into an office. They're not working for employers.
Dude, you're the best. You're the best. Appreciate you. No, you just are. You got it. Hey, do you know how to monetize all this stuff, Dylan? Because we can take this stuff, whatever it is, and just give it to charity. find charities to give it to. Right? Then we can put a water up and just have these guys write the checks to charity, no? Yeah. That's cool. Dude, that's light work.
Dude, you're the best. You're the best. Appreciate you. No, you just are. You got it. Hey, do you know how to monetize all this stuff, Dylan? Because we can take this stuff, whatever it is, and just give it to charity. find charities to give it to. Right? Then we can put a water up and just have these guys write the checks to charity, no? Yeah. That's cool. Dude, that's light work.
It's always worth it. Oh my God. It's totally worth it to me. Do you know why? Why? Because Dylan does it. Oh, Dylan, is it worth it to you? It's worth it. All right. It's worth it. See, that's why we need a camera there to capture that. Yeah. Right? Yeah. It's like, cause you know, it's like half the time people are going, is there really a Dylan? Dale, the man, the myth. Is that right?
It's always worth it. Oh my God. It's totally worth it to me. Do you know why? Why? Because Dylan does it. Oh, Dylan, is it worth it to you? It's worth it. All right. It's worth it. See, that's why we need a camera there to capture that. Yeah. Right? Yeah. It's like, cause you know, it's like half the time people are going, is there really a Dylan? Dale, the man, the myth. Is that right?
Joe Rogan is buff, though. You're buff too, bro. Now I'm just wearing this like tight shirt. Trying a tight shirt to make me look buff. Nah, he's lying. He be in them weights like crazy. No, this guy, this guy went ahead and got into an ice bath. Like Joe Rogan. He like dumped his, and I'm like crying. I'm, I'm feeling, cause you know, I'm an empath, right? So I'm such a, I cried for him.
Joe Rogan is buff, though. You're buff too, bro. Now I'm just wearing this like tight shirt. Trying a tight shirt to make me look buff. Nah, he's lying. He be in them weights like crazy. No, this guy, this guy went ahead and got into an ice bath. Like Joe Rogan. He like dumped his, and I'm like crying. I'm, I'm feeling, cause you know, I'm an empath, right? So I'm such a, I cried for him.
What do you want me to ask, Lisa?
What do you want me to ask, Lisa?
A little bit more about the food, because it seems like you're creative, obviously, with your music and stuff, but it seems like you have a love of cooking, and it's creative for you. Can you tell us about that process and some of your favorite things that you like to cook?
A little bit more about the food, because it seems like you're creative, obviously, with your music and stuff, but it seems like you have a love of cooking, and it's creative for you. Can you tell us about that process and some of your favorite things that you like to cook?
I like really spicy. Well, check this out. I like really, I don't like, when I tell them hot at the store, at the restaurant, I say, not for a gringo, for you. Right? So, I mean, and that's how I do it. I mean, but then my burns for two days. That bidet in there is very strong. Right? Yeah. I recommend. I don't really like seafood in my Mexican food. I don't. No?
I like really spicy. Well, check this out. I like really, I don't like, when I tell them hot at the store, at the restaurant, I say, not for a gringo, for you. Right? So, I mean, and that's how I do it. I mean, but then my burns for two days. That bidet in there is very strong. Right? Yeah. I recommend. I don't really like seafood in my Mexican food. I don't. No?
But that's probably because I've never had it done right or I've never, you know, had something. Look, if you made me, you can come back here and we're going to do a whole cooking show here. Oh yeah, let's do it.
But that's probably because I've never had it done right or I've never, you know, had something. Look, if you made me, you can come back here and we're going to do a whole cooking show here. Oh yeah, let's do it.
Hand me that. Hand me that. Let me show you. No, no. Let me show you. Ah, ah, ah, ah. Yes. This is who you just wanted to. Oh, no, I did not say that. I didn't talk about that. I was talking about the stove and the seat. Oh, the stove. I thought you were talking about my Kobe Bryant bobblehead.
Hand me that. Hand me that. Let me show you. No, no. Let me show you. Ah, ah, ah, ah. Yes. This is who you just wanted to. Oh, no, I did not say that. I didn't talk about that. I was talking about the stove and the seat. Oh, the stove. I thought you were talking about my Kobe Bryant bobblehead.
We can let him rack on every podcast.
We can let him rack on every podcast.
You know, I didn't even... He was great. I loved him. But you know when I fell in love with him? When? After he... After his... Like watching all those interviews and stuff? Watching... That man taught me how to be a better father. I am. That's real. And that's everything. He was just the best father. And I know a few people that know him. And it was, you know what I did?
You know, I didn't even... He was great. I loved him. But you know when I fell in love with him? When? After he... After his... Like watching all those interviews and stuff? Watching... That man taught me how to be a better father. I am. That's real. And that's everything. He was just the best father. And I know a few people that know him. And it was, you know what I did?
I turned the Empire State Building purple and gold the day or maybe the night he died. The night he died, yeah. What do you mean by that? Well, my buddy across the street from me in Malibu on broad beach, um, uh, has an iPhone and he's the one responsible for turning the empire state building, uh, different colors from his phone, from his phone. Yeah. He does that from his phone in Malibu.
I turned the Empire State Building purple and gold the day or maybe the night he died. The night he died, yeah. What do you mean by that? Well, my buddy across the street from me in Malibu on broad beach, um, uh, has an iPhone and he's the one responsible for turning the empire state building, uh, different colors from his phone, from his phone. Yeah. He does that from his phone in Malibu.
He controls, he controls, he controls it. And so I called him and I said, Hey man, I need you to do me a favor. And he said, uh, the owners are in New Zealand. I don't think I can do it. I'm going to, I don't want to get in trouble. And I said, dude, you're not going to get in trouble. You're going to be a hero. You just did the right thing. Okay. They're going to think you're a star player.
He controls, he controls, he controls it. And so I called him and I said, Hey man, I need you to do me a favor. And he said, uh, the owners are in New Zealand. I don't think I can do it. I'm going to, I don't want to get in trouble. And I said, dude, you're not going to get in trouble. You're going to be a hero. You just did the right thing. Okay. They're going to think you're a star player.
Come on, man, do this for me. And he never got back to me. And I was watching sports center and And I saw it on SportsCenter and I just started bawling. That's beautiful.
Come on, man, do this for me. And he never got back to me. And I was watching sports center and And I saw it on SportsCenter and I just started bawling. That's beautiful.
The cool story. No, yeah. So because we talked about it and we were talking about that chef, that chef show. Yeah. Right. Right. Tell me about, and then I said, when we get on here, just like, don't say anything about, you've only been doing this for a short period of time. He said, no, no, no, no, no. That's the best part. That's the best part.
The cool story. No, yeah. So because we talked about it and we were talking about that chef, that chef show. Yeah. Right. Right. Tell me about, and then I said, when we get on here, just like, don't say anything about, you've only been doing this for a short period of time. He said, no, no, no, no, no. That's the best part. That's the best part.
I want to pay for the hoodie. No, it's a... No, no. Dylan, on the way out... Make certain they have a link or whatever, however you do it, to send everybody to the hoodies, everybody to the chef stuff. That's phenomenal. You just made me hungry and I'm already full. We just ate and now I'm hungry. You know, we don't want to know something crazy.
I want to pay for the hoodie. No, it's a... No, no. Dylan, on the way out... Make certain they have a link or whatever, however you do it, to send everybody to the hoodies, everybody to the chef stuff. That's phenomenal. You just made me hungry and I'm already full. We just ate and now I'm hungry. You know, we don't want to know something crazy.
Did you come out all orange? Yeah. No, actually. Do you look like an orangutan?
Did you come out all orange? Yeah. No, actually. Do you look like an orangutan?
So check it out. We have a good vibe. We have a good conversation always. And this started out as just a fentanyl thing, right? An awareness for fentanyl so kids wouldn't die and parents wouldn't have to deal with the pain. But man, it's tough to talk about fentanyl. Yeah. It just is. I mean, it just destroys you, but I got a hit on it. No. Yeah. I mean, it's the show.
So check it out. We have a good vibe. We have a good conversation always. And this started out as just a fentanyl thing, right? An awareness for fentanyl so kids wouldn't die and parents wouldn't have to deal with the pain. But man, it's tough to talk about fentanyl. Yeah. It just is. I mean, it just destroys you, but I got a hit on it. No. Yeah. I mean, it's the show.
I don't even have anything cool to say about that.
I don't even have anything cool to say about that.
And, um, you ever done fentanyl? No. Do you press perks? No, no, never.
And, um, you ever done fentanyl? No. Do you press perks? No, no, never.
You look like the type of guy that would be like, hell no, hot Cheetos are not it. Dude, I'm 58. I eat something like that, I might just stroke out. You know, I could drop right there.
You look like the type of guy that would be like, hell no, hot Cheetos are not it. Dude, I'm 58. I eat something like that, I might just stroke out. You know, I could drop right there.
Take your parents to a strip club. Yes, I took my parents to the strip club before. Oh, you want to hear the best strip clubs? Yes. Story ever. I'll take you to tell me the best strip club to go to. I've been to a strip club in 25, 30 years. Oh yeah, I mean, I mean. The best strip club story ever. Let me ask you a question. I heard that at every show, at least one person falls out and dies.
Take your parents to a strip club. Yes, I took my parents to the strip club before. Oh, you want to hear the best strip clubs? Yes. Story ever. I'll take you to tell me the best strip club to go to. I've been to a strip club in 25, 30 years. Oh yeah, I mean, I mean. The best strip club story ever. Let me ask you a question. I heard that at every show, at least one person falls out and dies.
That's what I heard. And that's what all these rappers are telling me.
That's what I heard. And that's what all these rappers are telling me.
See, that's the part that pisses me off because everybody's desensitized to it. Okay. Everybody, you got these kids jumping around. Okay. And somebody falls out. Nobody gives a shit. And, you know, it's just, That was somebody's kid. Yeah. That mother is swinging from a shower rod, man. She don't want to live. Never. I mean, it is the most heartbreaking thing I've ever heard in my life.
See, that's the part that pisses me off because everybody's desensitized to it. Okay. Everybody, you got these kids jumping around. Okay. And somebody falls out. Nobody gives a shit. And, you know, it's just, That was somebody's kid. Yeah. That mother is swinging from a shower rod, man. She don't want to live. Never. I mean, it is the most heartbreaking thing I've ever heard in my life.
I mean, how many friends do you have die of fentanyl or acquaintances that you know of?
I mean, how many friends do you have die of fentanyl or acquaintances that you know of?
Well, it's usually the girls because guys are giving it to them so that they can get with her. Yeah, that's crazy. Because they lack the game. OK, to to make it consensual and get this woman hot for them. Right. So it's easier to pull a Bill Cosby.
Well, it's usually the girls because guys are giving it to them so that they can get with her. Yeah, that's crazy. Because they lack the game. OK, to to make it consensual and get this woman hot for them. Right. So it's easier to pull a Bill Cosby.
You know, the cocaine now nobody can handle because 70% of it's laced with fentanyl.
You know, the cocaine now nobody can handle because 70% of it's laced with fentanyl.
Oh, yeah. Holy shit. Check this out. Did you know that... Every seven minutes, someone between the age of 18 and 45 dies of fentanyl. Every seven minutes in this country. Holy. Dude, it's that bad? Oh, yeah. Bro, that's crazy. Dude, someone's already dropped and we're only seven minutes into this thing. It's the worst. And the worst part about it is you're close with your old man, right?
Oh, yeah. Holy shit. Check this out. Did you know that... Every seven minutes, someone between the age of 18 and 45 dies of fentanyl. Every seven minutes in this country. Holy. Dude, it's that bad? Oh, yeah. Bro, that's crazy. Dude, someone's already dropped and we're only seven minutes into this thing. It's the worst. And the worst part about it is you're close with your old man, right?
We're going to need another podcast. Yeah. And so. No, I mean, not for us. We're going to do one for us. We're going to need another podcast. This is starting to weigh on me. it started to weigh on me now.
We're going to need another podcast. Yeah. And so. No, I mean, not for us. We're going to do one for us. We're going to need another podcast. This is starting to weigh on me. it started to weigh on me now.
But let me ask you a question. Do you buy your weed in a dispensary or you get it on the street?
But let me ask you a question. Do you buy your weed in a dispensary or you get it on the street?
But people will grow it basically. Yeah. But why not do it? Why not get it from a dispensary?
But people will grow it basically. Yeah. But why not do it? Why not get it from a dispensary?
Well, it's a thing now. Believe me. I thought my parents were lying when they started telling me that. No, no. Well, no one's important enough to lie to and I don't lie. Okay. So I'm telling you that's a thing. So, what would make me feel more comfortable is if you only got that stuff at the dispensary. Because once you get it at the dispensary, dispensary is not going to take any of that stuff.
Well, it's a thing now. Believe me. I thought my parents were lying when they started telling me that. No, no. Well, no one's important enough to lie to and I don't lie. Okay. So I'm telling you that's a thing. So, what would make me feel more comfortable is if you only got that stuff at the dispensary. Because once you get it at the dispensary, dispensary is not going to take any of that stuff.
Because if they do, they're going to lose their license. You just have to make certain... It's a legit dispensary and not one of those pop-ups, right? And then they're open until they get shut down and then they pop up somewhere else the next day. That's what happens.
Because if they do, they're going to lose their license. You just have to make certain... It's a legit dispensary and not one of those pop-ups, right? And then they're open until they get shut down and then they pop up somewhere else the next day. That's what happens.
Okay, so you're going to pay an extra 20 bucks an ounce, 30 bucks. Who cares? You just said that you're in love with your family. Yeah. Okay. And they all rely on you. It's a family business. You're the family business, right? Okay. But where's the family business without you?
Okay, so you're going to pay an extra 20 bucks an ounce, 30 bucks. Who cares? You just said that you're in love with your family. Yeah. Okay. And they all rely on you. It's a family business. You're the family business, right? Okay. But where's the family business without you?
Well, I've kind of been doing this a while.
Well, I've kind of been doing this a while.
Yeah.
Yeah.
You love your old man. I mean, I heard you while we were eating pancakes.
You love your old man. I mean, I heard you while we were eating pancakes.
Your parents had an unlicensed rehab. Yes. That's awesome.
Your parents had an unlicensed rehab. Yes. That's awesome.
They would have been vibing for sure. Oh, my God. Do you know if you would have brought your parents, I would have lost my shit. I would have been so happy. I probably would have cried like a little bitch.
They would have been vibing for sure. Oh, my God. Do you know if you would have brought your parents, I would have lost my shit. I would have been so happy. I probably would have cried like a little bitch.
You're the kids who are dying.
You're the kids who are dying.
You're the kids who are dying.
You're the kids who are dying.
How were the pancakes?
How were the pancakes?
And then because most of you are glorifying it, the kids who are listening to you are dying.
And then because most of you are glorifying it, the kids who are listening to you are dying.
And I have teenagers. And I thought if I didn't do it, I would be punished. So I didn't have a choice. I feel that. I didn't want to do a podcast.
And I have teenagers. And I thought if I didn't do it, I would be punished. So I didn't have a choice. I feel that. I didn't want to do a podcast.
I'm an executive chairman of a healthcare corporation. Nobody can believe I'm doing this. Damn. Nobody. Trust me, in my world, everybody is pissed off that I'm doing this, and I don't care. Because doing the right thing is hard sometimes. I've never even seen a podcast. I've never even listened to a podcast. Ever. I think it's stupid. This isn't for money.
I'm an executive chairman of a healthcare corporation. Nobody can believe I'm doing this. Damn. Nobody. Trust me, in my world, everybody is pissed off that I'm doing this, and I don't care. Because doing the right thing is hard sometimes. I've never even seen a podcast. I've never even listened to a podcast. Ever. I think it's stupid. This isn't for money.
They were. They were so good. But your father's in love with you. Can you imagine the pain he would have if you did cocaine and were gone? He'd lose his mind.
They were. They were so good. But your father's in love with you. Can you imagine the pain he would have if you did cocaine and were gone? He'd lose his mind.
This is to do the right thing because I can. That's why. That's solid, man.
This is to do the right thing because I can. That's why. That's solid, man.
Yeah, and if I wasn't so damn tortured, it would be great.
Yeah, and if I wasn't so damn tortured, it would be great.
I don't really give a shit about anybody but the kids and the parents to keep the... Because it's not something...
I don't really give a shit about anybody but the kids and the parents to keep the... Because it's not something...
I would just die. Like, my heart would break. To, just to think about it is more than I can bear.
I would just die. Like, my heart would break. To, just to think about it is more than I can bear.
So, yeah. So, give me three tips on what I could, you know, just around the house find and whip up something for my kids.
So, yeah. So, give me three tips on what I could, you know, just around the house find and whip up something for my kids.
You close with your mom?
You close with your mom?
That's cool. Hey, do me a favor, will you? Okay. I'm going to run out to go to my cardiologist before my heart falls out. Okay. Seriously. I, you know, I mean, I've got small kids, you know, I gotta make it till tomorrow. So, so I'm going to go do that. And you're in the, and you're in the, um, you're in the Bay area. Yup. San Jose, California. Second chef in the Bay area.
That's cool. Hey, do me a favor, will you? Okay. I'm going to run out to go to my cardiologist before my heart falls out. Okay. Seriously. I, you know, I mean, I've got small kids, you know, I gotta make it till tomorrow. So, so I'm going to go do that. And you're in the, and you're in the, um, you're in the Bay area. Yup. San Jose, California. Second chef in the Bay area.
God, he's the greatest. We'll make some curry. Before we end, I just want to say one thing and then you'll walk us out of here, okay? All right. Coach Saban, you're breaking my heart. Okay.
God, he's the greatest. We'll make some curry. Before we end, I just want to say one thing and then you'll walk us out of here, okay? All right. Coach Saban, you're breaking my heart. Okay.
Do you ever do it on a live stream on Instagram?
Do you ever do it on a live stream on Instagram?
It's also the Latin connection. Yeah, yeah. People always feel more connected to their people for some reason. It's getting less so now with the kids today because kids don't see color anymore. Yeah. They just don't. They just don't, which is the greatest part about the kids today. But you've been in this game since you were a child. Yeah, forever. How did it affect you, man?
It's also the Latin connection. Yeah, yeah. People always feel more connected to their people for some reason. It's getting less so now with the kids today because kids don't see color anymore. Yeah. They just don't. They just don't, which is the greatest part about the kids today. But you've been in this game since you were a child. Yeah, forever. How did it affect you, man?
Different, different, different problems. Yeah. As you're like, you'll see as your life gets bigger. Okay. Um, your problems get bigger, right? It's the basic stuff, right? That is cool. Like you don't have to worry about, you know, a roof over your head or you don't have to worry about the food, right? Yeah. Uh,
Different, different, different problems. Yeah. As you're like, you'll see as your life gets bigger. Okay. Um, your problems get bigger, right? It's the basic stuff, right? That is cool. Like you don't have to worry about, you know, a roof over your head or you don't have to worry about the food, right? Yeah. Uh,
But there's just all these pressures when you're building a life and you're ascending into, you know, you're the best version of yourself. Right. And when you get there, it's just, you know, you got to be on point. Right. You got to know what you're doing. And anyway, I forgot what.
But there's just all these pressures when you're building a life and you're ascending into, you know, you're the best version of yourself. Right. And when you get there, it's just, you know, you got to be on point. Right. You got to know what you're doing. And anyway, I forgot what.
I guess when you have more money, you have more responsibility. And then you have more to lose. Yeah. Right? So it's not just about making it anymore. It's about keeping what you've got. And not only that, but growing. And there's just a lot of, hey, I promise you, when we get there, you'll be back and we'll do that whole thing. But you're killing it right now. You're 22.
I guess when you have more money, you have more responsibility. And then you have more to lose. Yeah. Right? So it's not just about making it anymore. It's about keeping what you've got. And not only that, but growing. And there's just a lot of, hey, I promise you, when we get there, you'll be back and we'll do that whole thing. But you're killing it right now. You're 22.
I mean, you're just destroying it. Thank you. I appreciate that. No, no problem. I want to talk about the cooking.
I mean, you're just destroying it. Thank you. I appreciate that. No, no problem. I want to talk about the cooking.
Yeah. Because I figured that was going to come up as a boy. Well, that's, that's look, man, the rap thing don't last forever. Okay. What was that thing in, uh, You know who Cypress Hill is? Yeah. You didn't know that song, Rap Game or Rap Superstar? I'm not sure. I'm not sure about that. You don't know Rap Superstar. All right.
Yeah. Because I figured that was going to come up as a boy. Well, that's, that's look, man, the rap thing don't last forever. Okay. What was that thing in, uh, You know who Cypress Hill is? Yeah. You didn't know that song, Rap Game or Rap Superstar? I'm not sure. I'm not sure about that. You don't know Rap Superstar. All right.
So they go through these lyrics in there and it's like, this game ain't going to last forever. You got to get your money. Right. When you can't. And you feel like you're just getting your love back now because these adults were bad
So they go through these lyrics in there and it's like, this game ain't going to last forever. You got to get your money. Right. When you can't. And you feel like you're just getting your love back now because these adults were bad
bumming you out you know and and they didn't know how to deal with a young kid and nurture him and love him they just they're a bunch of suits and you know just a bunch of right so who needs that so they cost you that love and the longer you stay away from them okay you'll you'll get it back Okay. Trust me. Cause you're gifted. Okay. I listened to your stuff before you came on. Okay.
bumming you out you know and and they didn't know how to deal with a young kid and nurture him and love him they just they're a bunch of suits and you know just a bunch of right so who needs that so they cost you that love and the longer you stay away from them okay you'll you'll get it back Okay. Trust me. Cause you're gifted. Okay. I listened to your stuff before you came on. Okay.
I mean, you're gifted. Okay. But there's nothing cooler than being a chef. And when we were talking about it beforehand, you lit up like a Christmas tree. Like you really love it. So you said, you said you had a story about it. You said, no, no, no, bitch. The story's cooler. And I said, save it for the show.
I mean, you're gifted. Okay. But there's nothing cooler than being a chef. And when we were talking about it beforehand, you lit up like a Christmas tree. Like you really love it. So you said, you said you had a story about it. You said, no, no, no, bitch. The story's cooler. And I said, save it for the show.
Well, I appreciate it, man, because it's for good cause, you know, and this fentanyl thing's killing everybody. So let me ask you a couple of questions.
Well, I appreciate it, man, because it's for good cause, you know, and this fentanyl thing's killing everybody. So let me ask you a couple of questions.
Stop. Stop. Show that camera that eight pack again. No, no. You're going to get more ass than a toilet seat in a minute. Okay? No, seriously. You're going to get more ass than a bus bench. Go ahead and open that up.
Stop. Stop. Show that camera that eight pack again. No, no. You're going to get more ass than a toilet seat in a minute. Okay? No, seriously. You're going to get more ass than a bus bench. Go ahead and open that up.
You make a million bucks a month if you could do that. Only fans.
You make a million bucks a month if you could do that. Only fans.
Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Do your parents ever say, finish your plate because there are kids starving? Yes. They did, right? Yes. But we finished the leftovers. We finished everything. But let me ask you a question. When they said that, truth. Tell me the truth. Weren't you thinking, like, this is going to really get to South Africa? Really?
Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Do your parents ever say, finish your plate because there are kids starving? Yes. They did, right? Yes. But we finished the leftovers. We finished everything. But let me ask you a question. When they said that, truth. Tell me the truth. Weren't you thinking, like, this is going to really get to South Africa? Really?
I was like, you're not going to send it to Africa, right? Like, if I don't eat it, who's going to eat it?
I was like, you're not going to send it to Africa, right? Like, if I don't eat it, who's going to eat it?
Our house is like- So then why not just give somebody like a little dose of NyQuil, okay? Knock them out so you can eat their potatoes. Like, that's crazy. You say Bill Cosby didn't take their food. Said the rehab guy. Unreal. I take it back. I'm sorry.
Our house is like- So then why not just give somebody like a little dose of NyQuil, okay? Knock them out so you can eat their potatoes. Like, that's crazy. You say Bill Cosby didn't take their food. Said the rehab guy. Unreal. I take it back. I'm sorry.
Are you doing it?
Are you doing it?
I think that this is the most beautiful thing because I tell people all the time, one of the most important things that you need to know in your life is you need to be financially literate. Okay, that's a must. And they don't teach you in school. Will you look into that camera and tell the people what class you took, what it's called, so that our viewers can go there? No, I don't own it.
I think that this is the most beautiful thing because I tell people all the time, one of the most important things that you need to know in your life is you need to be financially literate. Okay, that's a must. And they don't teach you in school. Will you look into that camera and tell the people what class you took, what it's called, so that our viewers can go there? No, I don't own it.
Okay, I don't even know anything about this. Don't make this about me. So Next Level Boys Program, shout out Coach Davis.
Okay, I don't even know anything about this. Don't make this about me. So Next Level Boys Program, shout out Coach Davis.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
That's right.
You want to go to the business side of it now? Yeah. I mean, can I just touch on the health real quick? Yeah. Okay. Taking care of your health is about self-love. Now, I'm still working on my self-love, hand to God. I don't love myself the way I should. I do not.
You want to go to the business side of it now? Yeah. I mean, can I just touch on the health real quick? Yeah. Okay. Taking care of your health is about self-love. Now, I'm still working on my self-love, hand to God. I don't love myself the way I should. I do not.
And you know what's great about that? It's a process, right? How old are your kids? I got two four-year-olds and I got a seven-year-old. That's fantastic. So the way I look at it, because... None of us are exactly where we want to be, right? I don't care who you are. You want to be somewhere. You want to grow. You want to thrive. You want to be better, right? And the greatest part about that is
And you know what's great about that? It's a process, right? How old are your kids? I got two four-year-olds and I got a seven-year-old. That's fantastic. So the way I look at it, because... None of us are exactly where we want to be, right? I don't care who you are. You want to be somewhere. You want to grow. You want to thrive. You want to be better, right? And the greatest part about that is
You only have to be one step ahead of your children, right? So I don't know everything, and I still have to learn a lot of stuff to pass down to my boy and my daughter, right? I mean, I have to, right? You only need to be one step ahead of your children, and I'm the same way. I have so much more to learn, but you know what? My kids are getting smarter. And they're rapidly catching up to me.
You only have to be one step ahead of your children, right? So I don't know everything, and I still have to learn a lot of stuff to pass down to my boy and my daughter, right? I mean, I have to, right? You only need to be one step ahead of your children, and I'm the same way. I have so much more to learn, but you know what? My kids are getting smarter. And they're rapidly catching up to me.
I mean, very quickly. For sure. But right now I got a little time. So I always stay one step ahead of the kids. And if they ever ask me something and I don't know, well, yeah. And if I don't know, I say, you know what, guys? That's a great question. Let me think about that. And I'll get right back to you, okay?
I mean, very quickly. For sure. But right now I got a little time. So I always stay one step ahead of the kids. And if they ever ask me something and I don't know, well, yeah. And if I don't know, I say, you know what, guys? That's a great question. Let me think about that. And I'll get right back to you, okay?
Yeah. Progress. Right. It's you're clear. You're more motivated. Right. Because here's the thing. When guys come on this show, I never tell them not to drink or do drugs. I don't. I tell them to buy their weed at a dispensary, and I tell them to get their pills at a pharmacy from a doctor. Because... Phenolautama. Yeah. That's right. They're dying. They're all dying. That's exactly right. And...
Yeah. Progress. Right. It's you're clear. You're more motivated. Right. Because here's the thing. When guys come on this show, I never tell them not to drink or do drugs. I don't. I tell them to buy their weed at a dispensary, and I tell them to get their pills at a pharmacy from a doctor. Because... Phenolautama. Yeah. That's right. They're dying. They're all dying. That's exactly right. And...
By the time you're my age, you will have achieved all your goals. And your last goal will be just to make certain that what you already did sticks.
By the time you're my age, you will have achieved all your goals. And your last goal will be just to make certain that what you already did sticks.
This guy who's here just recently, great guy, fantastic guy. His name is Jimmy Shin. And he said something, I hope I get this right, Dylan. He said...
This guy who's here just recently, great guy, fantastic guy. His name is Jimmy Shin. And he said something, I hope I get this right, Dylan. He said...
I'm a father. We're fathers, right? Which is why I assume you came on this thing because you've got young children and you want to bring awareness to the fentanyl issue because we're parents and we're scared to death. I just want to make certain. That I leave this place better than I found it. Right? Right. And that my children are okay in the world when I'm gone. When you're gone. All right?
I'm a father. We're fathers, right? Which is why I assume you came on this thing because you've got young children and you want to bring awareness to the fentanyl issue because we're parents and we're scared to death. I just want to make certain. That I leave this place better than I found it. Right? Right. And that my children are okay in the world when I'm gone. When you're gone. All right?
And that's really important to me. Those are the only two things that in from a 30,000 foot view that I care about. And maybe that's because I'm 58 and I've already had my shit. and my home, and my car, and, you know, whatever, right? I've already had that. But, bro, you feel it whether you know it or not, because you didn't walk in here all iced up.
And that's really important to me. Those are the only two things that in from a 30,000 foot view that I care about. And maybe that's because I'm 58 and I've already had my shit. and my home, and my car, and, you know, whatever, right? I've already had that. But, bro, you feel it whether you know it or not, because you didn't walk in here all iced up.
You're a father, so what happened was, is intuitively you know that's important. This isn't. The children are important. This isn't. The woman I love, she's important. This is it. Okay. Now, it's easy for me to say, okay, because everyone's listening. Oh, it's easy for you to say, right? Okay.
You're a father, so what happened was, is intuitively you know that's important. This isn't. The children are important. This isn't. The woman I love, she's important. This is it. Okay. Now, it's easy for me to say, okay, because everyone's listening. Oh, it's easy for you to say, right? Okay.
It is easy for me to say, okay, because I've done a lot of living and I've worked around the clock for, I don't know, two decades, closer to three. I mean, I do not leave the house. That's why the office is next to the house. Right? Yeah. I mean, people work all day long out of that. This is an office and I just live upstairs. That's how I do it. Okay. So I worked for that. I earned that.
It is easy for me to say, okay, because I've done a lot of living and I've worked around the clock for, I don't know, two decades, closer to three. I mean, I do not leave the house. That's why the office is next to the house. Right? Yeah. I mean, people work all day long out of that. This is an office and I just live upstairs. That's how I do it. Okay. So I worked for that. I earned that.
I made mistake after mistake after mistake, got back up, dust myself off, and went and took the next right action after the next right action after the next right action. That's it. You know, Cook Saban. Do you know who Cook Saban is? Nick Saban? No. You don't watch college football. Okay. So Nick Saban is the best college football coach of all time. It's not close.
I made mistake after mistake after mistake, got back up, dust myself off, and went and took the next right action after the next right action after the next right action. That's it. You know, Cook Saban. Do you know who Cook Saban is? Nick Saban? No. You don't watch college football. Okay. So Nick Saban is the best college football coach of all time. It's not close.
It's like Michael Jordan and everybody else. It's just not close. The best. And- He said something that has always stuck with me because I'm always saying reps, reps, reps, over, over, do it again, do it again. He made a statement that was so genius. He said, you don't keep doing something over and over until you get it right. You keep doing it over and over again until you can't get it wrong.
It's like Michael Jordan and everybody else. It's just not close. The best. And- He said something that has always stuck with me because I'm always saying reps, reps, reps, over, over, do it again, do it again. He made a statement that was so genius. He said, you don't keep doing something over and over until you get it right. You keep doing it over and over again until you can't get it wrong.
You know the culture, right? It's all weed. It's all booze. It's all music. It's all women. It's like, right? I mean, this is what it's about, right? Most definitely. Okay. I mean, that's how it would have been if I was a kid.
You know the culture, right? It's all weed. It's all booze. It's all music. It's all women. It's like, right? I mean, this is what it's about, right? Most definitely. Okay. I mean, that's how it would have been if I was a kid.
That's like a spiritual experience, right? Yeah, sure. And that ain't about football, dude.
That's like a spiritual experience, right? Yeah, sure. And that ain't about football, dude.
You know, it's funny. You asked me, you asked me why I'm doing this, why I did this podcast, right? And I told you it was just to bring fentanyl awareness and save kids. And, you know, we've got kids and we've got to do it. Listen, let's move on to... To the fentanyl thing. Okay. Have you ever tried fentanyl?
You know, it's funny. You asked me, you asked me why I'm doing this, why I did this podcast, right? And I told you it was just to bring fentanyl awareness and save kids. And, you know, we've got kids and we've got to do it. Listen, let's move on to... To the fentanyl thing. Okay. Have you ever tried fentanyl?
right so yeah man thank you so much for saying that i really appreciate it um gotta be said so how do you feel uh now as opposed to uh being loaded all the time do you get more done do you are you happier do you have a joy of living like what is it so personally i i get way more done like just
right so yeah man thank you so much for saying that i really appreciate it um gotta be said so how do you feel uh now as opposed to uh being loaded all the time do you get more done do you are you happier do you have a joy of living like what is it so personally i i get way more done like just
overdose okay because you know it wasn't it wasn't fatal but it wasn't fatal but your current seven-year-old was two two and a half during that period does he have any recollection of that overdose i don't remember thank god he went straight to sleep like he ate the pasta i got he ate the pasta and i looked over into that and i was like thank god he's just
overdose okay because you know it wasn't it wasn't fatal but it wasn't fatal but your current seven-year-old was two two and a half during that period does he have any recollection of that overdose i don't remember thank god he went straight to sleep like he ate the pasta i got he ate the pasta and i looked over into that and i was like thank god he's just
Thank God. All right. And the other ones are four, so they'd never even seen you loaded. Let's get to this other thing. I want to talk to you about your arrest. Are you okay with that? A little bit, yeah. Okay. Because I'm impressed. Let me tell you why I want to talk about it. Normally, I would.
Thank God. All right. And the other ones are four, so they'd never even seen you loaded. Let's get to this other thing. I want to talk to you about your arrest. Are you okay with that? A little bit, yeah. Okay. Because I'm impressed. Let me tell you why I want to talk about it. Normally, I would.
But the reason I want to talk about it is, you know, I own the finest drug and alcohol treatment facility in the world. It's for... Anyone and everyone who absolutely has to have the finest of everything, especially under like the horrific hard conditions of, you know, stopping using. Wood draws and all that. Yeah. I mean, and they held that life valuable.
But the reason I want to talk about it is, you know, I own the finest drug and alcohol treatment facility in the world. It's for... Anyone and everyone who absolutely has to have the finest of everything, especially under like the horrific hard conditions of, you know, stopping using. Wood draws and all that. Yeah. I mean, and they held that life valuable.
That was like their medicine, you know, everything to them, everything. And so, you know, that's a scary thing. So you have to be in the right place. The reason I want to ask you about this is because I'm impressed doing what I do for a living to have a guy who got in trouble with the law and hasn't done drugs in five years.
That was like their medicine, you know, everything to them, everything. And so, you know, that's a scary thing. So you have to be in the right place. The reason I want to ask you about this is because I'm impressed doing what I do for a living to have a guy who got in trouble with the law and hasn't done drugs in five years.
Okay. Hey, guess what? What you're doing is beyond magnificent because you did all that stuff up until two years ago. And the last two years, you've been on the straight and narrow. You've been-
Okay. Hey, guess what? What you're doing is beyond magnificent because you did all that stuff up until two years ago. And the last two years, you've been on the straight and narrow. You've been-
Or you can just, better yet, you can just say, I'm not going to do this today. And then you're like... Four o'clock. It's like, you know, it's like, right? And it's like, I always tell people, if you're having problems, stop drinking for 30 days.
Or you can just, better yet, you can just say, I'm not going to do this today. And then you're like... Four o'clock. It's like, you know, it's like, right? And it's like, I always tell people, if you're having problems, stop drinking for 30 days.
She's a model. Does she get paid for money? Yeah, she gets paid a good amount. And she gets paid for doing the content. Yeah. All right, good. Well, then she is working. She just works for herself. Right, she works for herself. But I'm just saying not like a nine to five, like not a traditional job. Who works nine to five anymore? I don't know. I don't even know if that works.
She's a model. Does she get paid for money? Yeah, she gets paid a good amount. And she gets paid for doing the content. Yeah. All right, good. Well, then she is working. She just works for herself. Right, she works for herself. But I'm just saying not like a nine to five, like not a traditional job. Who works nine to five anymore? I don't know. I don't even know if that works.
Is that even a thing anymore? No.
Is that even a thing anymore? No.
I don't know.
I don't know.
I feel like she's going to die. All right. Well, let's get back to her in a minute. Do you want, do you want help for her? Definitely. Does she want help? I was going to ask you like, you know, really? Yeah. I, that'd be a huge favor to me. Really? Yes. Okay. What's your name? I don't want to like be, you know what I'm saying? So you want me to talk to your girlfriend after the, after the podcast?
I feel like she's going to die. All right. Well, let's get back to her in a minute. Do you want, do you want help for her? Definitely. Does she want help? I was going to ask you like, you know, really? Yeah. I, that'd be a huge favor to me. Really? Yes. Okay. What's your name? I don't want to like be, you know what I'm saying? So you want me to talk to your girlfriend after the, after the podcast?
Yeah. And I'll try to get her into treatment.
Yeah. And I'll try to get her into treatment.
We'll figure something out for her. Don't worry about it. Listen, if I can't help her, I can find a place that will. So don't worry about it. I'll figure it out for you before you leave here. Okay? So the reason I want to talk about this is because You're doing great. You're what the judicial system is actually hoping for. You went in, you got on probation. Right. Okay.
We'll figure something out for her. Don't worry about it. Listen, if I can't help her, I can find a place that will. So don't worry about it. I'll figure it out for you before you leave here. Okay? So the reason I want to talk about this is because You're doing great. You're what the judicial system is actually hoping for. You went in, you got on probation. Right. Okay.
You haven't been in trouble in what? How long? Five years? Yeah. I haven't been in serious trouble. I haven't caught a new felony. Good. So you're good for five years. Okay. Not five years. It's been five years.
You haven't been in trouble in what? How long? Five years? Yeah. I haven't been in serious trouble. I haven't caught a new felony. Good. So you're good for five years. Okay. Not five years. It's been five years.
It's been five. Made a career for myself. Yeah, it's been five years. Okay. So it's been five years. Two years sober. So not in trouble for five. Sober for two. And you've got another five. Okay. On probation. And I just think that's fantastic. And I think that's something that you should be really, really proud of, like extremely proud of.
It's been five. Made a career for myself. Yeah, it's been five years. Okay. So it's been five years. Two years sober. So not in trouble for five. Sober for two. And you've got another five. Okay. On probation. And I just think that's fantastic. And I think that's something that you should be really, really proud of, like extremely proud of.
Do you ever call them and make a repair and tell them?
Do you ever call them and make a repair and tell them?
like conspiracy of a murder you know it's like conspiracy let me just stop scaring everybody okay you didn't you it wasn't conspiracy to commit murder somebody somebody somebody burglarized somebody burglarized and died and allegedly you were i was a part of the conspiracy You know what I'm saying? Well, you didn't plan the burglary, did you? No. Did you plan in any way, shape, or form?
like conspiracy of a murder you know it's like conspiracy let me just stop scaring everybody okay you didn't you it wasn't conspiracy to commit murder somebody somebody somebody burglarized somebody burglarized and died and allegedly you were i was a part of the conspiracy You know what I'm saying? Well, you didn't plan the burglary, did you? No. Did you plan in any way, shape, or form?
I had nothing to do with this. Right. But you were with the boys.
I had nothing to do with this. Right. But you were with the boys.
My point is, though, you weren't there. Right. Okay? But you were with the guys. That they said was there. And then you got 10 years probation. Right. Because the judge...
My point is, though, you weren't there. Right. Okay? But you were with the guys. That they said was there. And then you got 10 years probation. Right. Because the judge...
Good. Gillen, grab me a pen and a pad of paper, will you please? Because this man just said the magic words. You said goals. Yeah. Uh-huh. Want to talk about your goals?
Good. Gillen, grab me a pen and a pad of paper, will you please? Because this man just said the magic words. You said goals. Yeah. Uh-huh. Want to talk about your goals?
Yeah. Where is she? Fulton County. Of course. Flint County, Georgia? Yeah. That woman is a blessing. You should send her a dozen roses to her courtroom every year on your anniversary and then walk in with the roses on the 10th year. It's a 30-line probation and you're the greatest woman alive. Yeah, you're right. I might do that. Absolutely, dude. Sure.
Yeah. Where is she? Fulton County. Of course. Flint County, Georgia? Yeah. That woman is a blessing. You should send her a dozen roses to her courtroom every year on your anniversary and then walk in with the roses on the 10th year. It's a 30-line probation and you're the greatest woman alive. Yeah, you're right. I might do that. Absolutely, dude. Sure.
Well, life's tough enough, okay? Right. So we don't need to go to jail to toughen up. Right now. Yeah. Right? Life brings its own baggage. So... You're never going to see the inside of a jail cell yet. Never. Because you don't live that way. And as long as you don't live in a way that is putting you in harm's way, then you don't ever have to go to jail again. And then we can get back to this.
Well, life's tough enough, okay? Right. So we don't need to go to jail to toughen up. Right now. Yeah. Right? Life brings its own baggage. So... You're never going to see the inside of a jail cell yet. Never. Because you don't live that way. And as long as you don't live in a way that is putting you in harm's way, then you don't ever have to go to jail again. And then we can get back to this.
These goals. Okay? Because that's what I want to do here. And I want to knock these out real quick. Okay? Okay. You got your business goals and your personal goals, okay? You said you wanted a business. But before we get into that, what I want to know is, how often are you making music? So I make music like every day, every other day. How often are you in the studio? Every day, every other day.
These goals. Okay? Because that's what I want to do here. And I want to knock these out real quick. Okay? Okay. You got your business goals and your personal goals, okay? You said you wanted a business. But before we get into that, what I want to know is, how often are you making music? So I make music like every day, every other day. How often are you in the studio? Every day, every other day.
Okay. But you, I don't understand how the business works. So I apologize, but.
Okay. But you, I don't understand how the business works. So I apologize, but.
Listen, I don't even know where to go with this because most guys that come in here tell me, I want a yacht. I want a jet. I want, you know, yada, yada, yada. I want a mansion. I want this. And you're like, man, I want a home to put my family in. I mean, you're so right-sized, right? It's ridiculous.
Listen, I don't even know where to go with this because most guys that come in here tell me, I want a yacht. I want a jet. I want, you know, yada, yada, yada. I want a mansion. I want this. And you're like, man, I want a home to put my family in. I mean, you're so right-sized, right? It's ridiculous.
You've got money and talent and discipline and a good soul. Most definitely. You can't lose. No, no, no. You cannot lose. It would be impossible for you to lose. If you are making music every day and you drop that... Intentionally. Okay. You collab and do a couple tunes with, I would do tunes with your 10 best friends here that are big shots just like you. What's our cat coming on Monday again?
You've got money and talent and discipline and a good soul. Most definitely. You can't lose. No, no, no. You cannot lose. It would be impossible for you to lose. If you are making music every day and you drop that... Intentionally. Okay. You collab and do a couple tunes with, I would do tunes with your 10 best friends here that are big shots just like you. What's our cat coming on Monday again?
Landed. Landed? Yeah. Landed Cube. I'd call him, I'd call Dex, I'd call Lil Xan, I'd call all of them and say, hey, let's meet me at the thing and let's knock this out. You do one for them, they'll do one for you, and you're done.
Landed. Landed? Yeah. Landed Cube. I'd call him, I'd call Dex, I'd call Lil Xan, I'd call all of them and say, hey, let's meet me at the thing and let's knock this out. You do one for them, they'll do one for you, and you're done.
Then ask them. Make yourself a wish list. Just... but I put off till tomorrow what you can do today. Make a wish list. It's only yours. Some people own those on it? Yeah, but shoot for the stars. Travis. This is a stream of consciousness exercise. You're just writing this stud, that stud, Jay-Z, Eminem, Andre 3000, Run DMC. What's important is if you can come up with these mashups, Right.
Then ask them. Make yourself a wish list. Just... but I put off till tomorrow what you can do today. Make a wish list. It's only yours. Some people own those on it? Yeah, but shoot for the stars. Travis. This is a stream of consciousness exercise. You're just writing this stud, that stud, Jay-Z, Eminem, Andre 3000, Run DMC. What's important is if you can come up with these mashups, Right.
And you're back. I'm back. That's the day. Right. Okay. And, and the, and the story of the album is you're with, you're doing these nothing but duos or collabs with other artists or mashups on your own with other artists. Right. And so it's like, I'm back. With my friends. Isn't that hard? Yeah, it's the hardest idea. Yeah, well, that's okay because that's the only one I've got. That's it.
And you're back. I'm back. That's the day. Right. Okay. And, and the, and the story of the album is you're with, you're doing these nothing but duos or collabs with other artists or mashups on your own with other artists. Right. And so it's like, I'm back. With my friends. Isn't that hard? Yeah, it's the hardest idea. Yeah, well, that's okay because that's the only one I've got. That's it.
That's all I got. Dude, I swear to God, I tried to be so hopeful. You know? The listeners are probably like, again? No, you're right, bro. Moron. Yeah. All right. So I want to touch on the Sentinel thing real quick, okay? And then we're going to... All right.
That's all I got. Dude, I swear to God, I tried to be so hopeful. You know? The listeners are probably like, again? No, you're right, bro. Moron. Yeah. All right. So I want to touch on the Sentinel thing real quick, okay? And then we're going to... All right.
So these kids' parents will never be the same. Never. Never. You gotta stop. This is it. Just stop. Think about it for a second, though. Let's... You've got a seven-year-old and twin four-year-olds. Can you imagine what, you can't even imagine if something happened to them. I mean, you'd be dead.
So these kids' parents will never be the same. Never. Never. You gotta stop. This is it. Just stop. Think about it for a second, though. Let's... You've got a seven-year-old and twin four-year-olds. Can you imagine what, you can't even imagine if something happened to them. I mean, you'd be dead.
Dude, if something happened to your kids, you'd be on drugs in five minutes. five minutes and I wouldn't even be here. Okay. It's, it is the most unnatural thing in the world for people to die before their kids, for their kids to die before them. Absolutely. It's just, it's not, that's not the way it's supposed to be. And yeah, this is why we do this podcast. I don't monetize this thing.
Dude, if something happened to your kids, you'd be on drugs in five minutes. five minutes and I wouldn't even be here. Okay. It's, it is the most unnatural thing in the world for people to die before their kids, for their kids to die before them. Absolutely. It's just, it's not, that's not the way it's supposed to be. And yeah, this is why we do this podcast. I don't monetize this thing.
This is never going to, we are never going to have a commercial here. I'm never going to. Sponsored by Kiss My, okay? No chance ever, okay? This is a pure thing. It is a pure thing. And, you know, at the end, you know, I got my buddy Jason who gives this little talk and he says, look, if anybody ever needs help, call us. We'll take care of you, okay?
This is never going to, we are never going to have a commercial here. I'm never going to. Sponsored by Kiss My, okay? No chance ever, okay? This is a pure thing. It is a pure thing. And, you know, at the end, you know, I got my buddy Jason who gives this little talk and he says, look, if anybody ever needs help, call us. We'll take care of you, okay?
And that doesn't mean, oh, come to my center, okay? Okay, man, one in 500,000 people can come to my center. I ain't getting any business from this podcast to come to Carrera. You go to Carrera, it's $165,000 a month. Nobody's going to Carrera off this podcast. Okay.
And that doesn't mean, oh, come to my center, okay? Okay, man, one in 500,000 people can come to my center. I ain't getting any business from this podcast to come to Carrera. You go to Carrera, it's $165,000 a month. Nobody's going to Carrera off this podcast. Okay.
The people who are going to call me off this podcast need help and they can either go to my affordable care center, which doesn't have a lot of beds right now. Okay. Or if I can't help them, I'll find them a spot. I find every, we find people treatment who call us every single day just for fun and for free so that no one ever feels like nowhere to go.
The people who are going to call me off this podcast need help and they can either go to my affordable care center, which doesn't have a lot of beds right now. Okay. Or if I can't help them, I'll find them a spot. I find every, we find people treatment who call us every single day just for fun and for free so that no one ever feels like nowhere to go.
No, that they're not important because they didn't have the money because that's just not how I'm going to ever operate in the world. Yeah. Right? So, I mean, this is just, just for this purpose, for people like you, for a guy like me, okay, who knows this. To talk to a guy like you who everybody loves and every kid. Dude, my daughter's 15. People in her school know who you are.
No, that they're not important because they didn't have the money because that's just not how I'm going to ever operate in the world. Yeah. Right? So, I mean, this is just, just for this purpose, for people like you, for a guy like me, okay, who knows this. To talk to a guy like you who everybody loves and every kid. Dude, my daughter's 15. People in her school know who you are.
They knew who little Zan was. They knew who famous Dex was. They were like, whoa. You guys make a difference in every community because everybody listens to your music. The kids love it. Right. Yeah. How good is that? Yeah, it was great. That's so good. You helped so many people here today. For sure. Now, we're going to end, okay? And then you and I are going to go help your old lady, okay?
They knew who little Zan was. They knew who famous Dex was. They were like, whoa. You guys make a difference in every community because everybody listens to your music. The kids love it. Right. Yeah. How good is that? Yeah, it was great. That's so good. You helped so many people here today. For sure. Now, we're going to end, okay? And then you and I are going to go help your old lady, okay?
I shall. All right. So where can people reach you, buddy?
I shall. All right. So where can people reach you, buddy?
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Two things. Number one, you said I break my goals into two buckets. One is personal and one is business. And then you went to personal first before business. And so you know it's important. And then the first goal was for your family and not for you. So if you ever want to know the moment that I started loving the shit out of you, that was it. Like, man, that was beautiful. For sure.
Two things. Number one, you said I break my goals into two buckets. One is personal and one is business. And then you went to personal first before business. And so you know it's important. And then the first goal was for your family and not for you. So if you ever want to know the moment that I started loving the shit out of you, that was it. Like, man, that was beautiful. For sure.
Dude, I almost started crying like a little. I'm not kidding. It was that beautiful. That's the way it got to be. Yeah.
Dude, I almost started crying like a little. I'm not kidding. It was that beautiful. That's the way it got to be. Yeah.
Young Bands. Yeah. How you doing, man? Doing good, man. Thanks for coming. Sure. Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. You're the only guy who's walked in here from the underground rap scene that hasn't walked in smoking a joint. Yeah. You're the only one. Sure. And then somebody here offered you to smoke and you said no. Yeah. Why? Probation, can't smoke, so.
Young Bands. Yeah. How you doing, man? Doing good, man. Thanks for coming. Sure. Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. You're the only guy who's walked in here from the underground rap scene that hasn't walked in smoking a joint. Yeah. You're the only one. Sure. And then somebody here offered you to smoke and you said no. Yeah. Why? Probation, can't smoke, so.
You know? Yeah. No, it's better. Listen, especially in times that we're living in now, right? With all this income disparity where people have a ton and then other people have nothing. Okay. You don't want to give anybody an excuse to take your life or take something from. Yeah. Because, you know, I mean, you give it right to them. Hell yeah. Okay?
You know? Yeah. No, it's better. Listen, especially in times that we're living in now, right? With all this income disparity where people have a ton and then other people have nothing. Okay. You don't want to give anybody an excuse to take your life or take something from. Yeah. Because, you know, I mean, you give it right to them. Hell yeah. Okay?
And so would I. But, you know, they're having a bad day. They might just do it. And they don't want to have a conversation. They just want to move fast. Bang. And they're gone. I mean, over what?
And so would I. But, you know, they're having a bad day. They might just do it. And they don't want to have a conversation. They just want to move fast. Bang. And they're gone. I mean, over what?
Lost your life because you were a dumbass and you wore your shit out in a place where it wasn't safe. That's all. So that's good. Okay. I mean, there's nothing better than giving back. Okay. And thank you for coming, man, because you're a big shot. People love you. They just lose it for you. Yeah. They do. Dylan, didn't he do a music video with somebody who's coming in the next couple of days?
Lost your life because you were a dumbass and you wore your shit out in a place where it wasn't safe. That's all. So that's good. Okay. I mean, there's nothing better than giving back. Okay. And thank you for coming, man, because you're a big shot. People love you. They just lose it for you. Yeah. They do. Dylan, didn't he do a music video with somebody who's coming in the next couple of days?
Yes. Landon Cube. Do you know Landon Cube? Yeah, I know Landon. Shout out Landon. Yeah. So Landon's coming next week, Dylan?
Yes. Landon Cube. Do you know Landon Cube? Yeah, I know Landon. Shout out Landon. Yeah. So Landon's coming next week, Dylan?
Oh, March 30th is coming Monday. So that's cool. I heard you guys did music together. One of my biggest songs. You know, my biggest song. Oh, then hold on. Let's put that. Let's go straight to the business balls. You want to do another song with him? Yeah. Hell yeah. Always down to work. What? Always down to work. Yeah, let's work that out, Dylan. Remind me.
Oh, March 30th is coming Monday. So that's cool. I heard you guys did music together. One of my biggest songs. You know, my biggest song. Oh, then hold on. Let's put that. Let's go straight to the business balls. You want to do another song with him? Yeah. Hell yeah. Always down to work. What? Always down to work. Yeah, let's work that out, Dylan. Remind me.
Because I think that's good for both of them. They're both star players, right? I mean, who doesn't want, I mean, right? Yeah. And you guys go and you do that. And because you're giving to each other, you both rise, right?
Because I think that's good for both of them. They're both star players, right? I mean, who doesn't want, I mean, right? Yeah. And you guys go and you do that. And because you're giving to each other, you both rise, right?
Don't you think, Dylan? Oh, I love that.
Don't you think, Dylan? Oh, I love that.
Listen, I don't know if that works for you, but I think it would be cool. You guys are friends, right? Yeah. How long does it take to knock out a song in the studio?
Listen, I don't know if that works for you, but I think it would be cool. You guys are friends, right? Yeah. How long does it take to knock out a song in the studio?
If you didn't take your time on it, 45 minutes to an hour? Yeah. How about if you're just being lazy?
If you didn't take your time on it, 45 minutes to an hour? Yeah. How about if you're just being lazy?
Okay, good. If you guys want to do that, I'll give you the 500 bucks for the studio time. If you guys want to do that. Okay. Because I think that would be so good for you. And good for him because you're both starter players and you haven't done this in a long time. And it's... I haven't done what? You haven't did a song together for a long time. That's true. Right? And when was it?
Okay, good. If you guys want to do that, I'll give you the 500 bucks for the studio time. If you guys want to do that. Okay. Because I think that would be so good for you. And good for him because you're both starter players and you haven't done this in a long time. And it's... I haven't done what? You haven't did a song together for a long time. That's true. Right? And when was it?
What year was it? I don't know, maybe 18.
What year was it? I don't know, maybe 18.
Right. That's the net. Landing cool. Landing cool. Right. I think that's cool. All right. So let's get back to personal. Okay. So you've got a home for your family. Okay. So they always have a place to go, which is the most, it's not just beautiful. It's heartbreaking.
Right. That's the net. Landing cool. Landing cool. Right. I think that's cool. All right. So let's get back to personal. Okay. So you've got a home for your family. Okay. So they always have a place to go, which is the most, it's not just beautiful. It's heartbreaking.
How long have you been on probation? For like five years. How much longer you got? Five more, five more to go. Really? Yeah. And you're not smoking or drinking or anything right now? Nothing, like nothing at all.
How long have you been on probation? For like five years. How much longer you got? Five more, five more to go. Really? Yeah. And you're not smoking or drinking or anything right now? Nothing, like nothing at all.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Right. Because I know where it's coming from. So what a beautiful soul, dude. Your parents alive? For sure. And call your parents right when you get done with this. They did so good with you. All right. Next personal goal.
Right. Because I know where it's coming from. So what a beautiful soul, dude. Your parents alive? For sure. And call your parents right when you get done with this. They did so good with you. All right. Next personal goal.
You know what I'm saying? Good. So I'm going to recommend something for you where you can literally listen to a book, a large book in 15 minutes and get all the key points out of every single book you have. Where it's good for you? Summarize like, I like it. Yeah. I don't do it as much as I should, but there were periods in my life where I did it every day for years. Taught you a lot.
You know what I'm saying? Good. So I'm going to recommend something for you where you can literally listen to a book, a large book in 15 minutes and get all the key points out of every single book you have. Where it's good for you? Summarize like, I like it. Yeah. I don't do it as much as I should, but there were periods in my life where I did it every day for years. Taught you a lot.
There's nothing, listen, there's nothing more important than continuing to grow and learn nothing. We're not going to be, you're not the same guy today that you're going to be in 20 years. I can prove it to you. Are you the same guy today that you were at 15? Not even close, right? Not even close, no. Okay. I mean, when you get to be 45 and 55, you're different. You get mature and you...
There's nothing, listen, there's nothing more important than continuing to grow and learn nothing. We're not going to be, you're not the same guy today that you're going to be in 20 years. I can prove it to you. Are you the same guy today that you were at 15? Not even close, right? Not even close, no. Okay. I mean, when you get to be 45 and 55, you're different. You get mature and you...
And you get more right sized about everything. And there are no real big deals unless it has to do with your family. Or health. Or livelihood. Right. But, you know, if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger. Sure. Right. All right. So we got your health. Are you exercising at all? A little bit.
And you get more right sized about everything. And there are no real big deals unless it has to do with your family. Or health. Or livelihood. Right. But, you know, if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger. Sure. Right. All right. So we got your health. Are you exercising at all? A little bit.
So you want, what song do you want to play on the outro here? We'll play one of your songs on the outro after the deal. Let's play Straight Cash. Straight Cash?
So you want, what song do you want to play on the outro here? We'll play one of your songs on the outro after the deal. Let's play Straight Cash. Straight Cash?
Maybe a heart. That's awesome. So you want to pass down your assets. And what you're saying is you held on to your music.
Maybe a heart. That's awesome. So you want to pass down your assets. And what you're saying is you held on to your music.
But no, but no drugs at all? No drugs. Pills, powders, nothing.
But no, but no drugs at all? No drugs. Pills, powders, nothing.
Let me write this down because I want to be able to give you something. You got kids? Yeah, three. Did you know you can give $19,000 to each one of them? As a gift. Tax free.
Let me write this down because I want to be able to give you something. You got kids? Yeah, three. Did you know you can give $19,000 to each one of them? As a gift. Tax free.
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Wow.
Wow.
Wow.
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Musician Landon Cube joins the We're Out of Time podcast.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Did your parents find out about that?
Did your parents find out about that?
Sexual abuse?
Sexual abuse?
When?
When?
That's when they found out about it? Yeah. Did anything happen to this guy?
That's when they found out about it? Yeah. Did anything happen to this guy?
Were you traumatized by the experience of jail?
Were you traumatized by the experience of jail?
How long after leaving jail, what was the time period that it took you to get sober from that point on?
How long after leaving jail, what was the time period that it took you to get sober from that point on?
He's been taken care of.
He's been taken care of.
Tell the viewers what that means in English.
Tell the viewers what that means in English.
I just want to know if the guy went to jail or not.
I just want to know if the guy went to jail or not.
They raided your house and found heroin? Yes.
They raided your house and found heroin? Yes.
For sure.
For sure.
Right. It's back to the community thing.
Right. It's back to the community thing.
Well, we're always the last to know.
Well, we're always the last to know.
No, but it had, but, but again, you don't, it's time goes on, right? We don't remember, but I can guarantee you the parts that stuck. were building blocks for the next.
No, but it had, but, but again, you don't, it's time goes on, right? We don't remember, but I can guarantee you the parts that stuck. were building blocks for the next.
I was like, how old were you when you left the house?
I was like, how old were you when you left the house?
So you don't think you've transcended alcoholism?
So you don't think you've transcended alcoholism?
I think that, um, do you believe that people can transcend alcoholism?
I think that, um, do you believe that people can transcend alcoholism?
You just said that because you know that's what I wanted to hear.
You just said that because you know that's what I wanted to hear.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Your father punched you in the face at 14. Do you talk to him anymore?
Your father punched you in the face at 14. Do you talk to him anymore?
Me neither.
Me neither.
I couldn't do cocaine or heroin if my life depended on it. And nobody likes that.
I couldn't do cocaine or heroin if my life depended on it. And nobody likes that.
I don't remember. Give me the first name.
I don't remember. Give me the first name.
Your father punched you in the face at 14? Yeah. Do you talk to him anymore?
Your father punched you in the face at 14? Yeah. Do you talk to him anymore?
I remember.
I remember.
Uh-huh.
Uh-huh.
Not only that, not only that.
Not only that, not only that.
Right.
Right.
Do you know why?
Do you know why?
Okay, good.
Okay, good.
They are. They are brutal. Um, You're 11 years sober.
They are. They are brutal. Um, You're 11 years sober.
13 and a half. At 10 years sober, you probably blew up.
13 and a half. At 10 years sober, you probably blew up.
But it got better at 10 years. Yeah.
But it got better at 10 years. Yeah.
Are these Evan's kids?
Are these Evan's kids?
Do you, does Evan see the kids?
Do you, does Evan see the kids?
Great father.
Great father.
Yeah, he's a good guy. All Canadians are good guys.
Yeah, he's a good guy. All Canadians are good guys.
Where do celebrities go to rehab?
Where do celebrities go to rehab?
Are you just telling me that because that's what I want to hear?
Are you just telling me that because that's what I want to hear?
Yes. You know, we allow dogs at Carrera.
Yes. You know, we allow dogs at Carrera.
Is that, because I don't play nice with others, is that something that is- A barrier? Typical in the industry?
Is that, because I don't play nice with others, is that something that is- A barrier? Typical in the industry?
The one thing I want to talk about is managing your stressors because there's only so much an alcoholic can tolerate before he's got to self-medicate, right? And, you know, people are stigmatizing therapy. but not like they used to. And people don't understand that therapy isn't something you have to do. It's something you get to do. It is the ultimate luxury.
The one thing I want to talk about is managing your stressors because there's only so much an alcoholic can tolerate before he's got to self-medicate, right? And, you know, people are stigmatizing therapy. but not like they used to. And people don't understand that therapy isn't something you have to do. It's something you get to do. It is the ultimate luxury.
Because if our stressors are here and we don't have the support, right? That's greater than the stressor. At some point you've had enough, right? Talk to me about that, about your experience with your personal therapist.
Because if our stressors are here and we don't have the support, right? That's greater than the stressor. At some point you've had enough, right? Talk to me about that, about your experience with your personal therapist.
No, it's okay.
No, it's okay.
You can cuss.
You can cuss.
Explain what somatic experiencing is to, uh, a layman to a layman because, uh, I don't think they get it. And initially when I first heard about it years ago, I was like, okay, so you scream into a pillow or you beat the out of a pillow. I don't get it.
Explain what somatic experiencing is to, uh, a layman to a layman because, uh, I don't think they get it. And initially when I first heard about it years ago, I was like, okay, so you scream into a pillow or you beat the out of a pillow. I don't get it.
Like what's that movie that I watched with the kids about anger? Yes.
Like what's that movie that I watched with the kids about anger? Yes.
Oh, I love that movie.
Oh, I love that movie.
Then we're going to continue to suffer.
Then we're going to continue to suffer.
It's so much harder today for the kids today than it was for us because everyone's got a voice. Everybody thinks their opinion matters. Everybody.
It's so much harder today for the kids today than it was for us because everyone's got a voice. Everybody thinks their opinion matters. Everybody.
That's exactly right.
That's exactly right.
Well, what's about it is that, you know, when I was a kid and I ran my mouth, OK, I got my ass kicked. OK, now people are running their mouths because they got computer courage.
Well, what's about it is that, you know, when I was a kid and I ran my mouth, OK, I got my ass kicked. OK, now people are running their mouths because they got computer courage.
How do you know?
How do you know?
So it never gets worked out.
So it never gets worked out.
You know what I mean? That's the sad part. And the girls are taking it so seriously.
You know what I mean? That's the sad part. And the girls are taking it so seriously.
Right. And they're all having such a hard time. The guys don't give a.
Right. And they're all having such a hard time. The guys don't give a.
How do you know? How do you know that those traumas that you experienced in early childhood weren't so painful that you had to self-medicate over it?
How do you know? How do you know that those traumas that you experienced in early childhood weren't so painful that you had to self-medicate over it?
Where can people find you? Got 117,000 people following you on Instagram.
Where can people find you? Got 117,000 people following you on Instagram.
Thank you so much for coming today.
Thank you so much for coming today.
I really appreciate it. I have one request.
I really appreciate it. I have one request.
Okay. I need you to look into that camera right there. And I need you to say, see you next Tuesday.
Okay. I need you to look into that camera right there. And I need you to say, see you next Tuesday.
See you next Tuesday.
See you next Tuesday.
That's not why you don't pick up a drink or a drug. The reason you don't pick up a drink or a drug is because you're a single mother. You're not a dip. You're in love with your kid.
That's not why you don't pick up a drink or a drug. The reason you don't pick up a drink or a drug is because you're a single mother. You're not a dip. You're in love with your kid.
No, no, no, not with a head. You can't unring a bell. You can't have the, the, the life that we've had and the education that we've had. And I'm not talking about the anecdotal, you know, we don't do, you know, people would say, oh, there's no evidence that what you've got is anecdotal. No, we don't have anecdotal evidence in this business. We've got field research in this business. Okay.
No, no, no, not with a head. You can't unring a bell. You can't have the, the, the life that we've had and the education that we've had. And I'm not talking about the anecdotal, you know, we don't do, you know, people would say, oh, there's no evidence that what you've got is anecdotal. No, we don't have anecdotal evidence in this business. We've got field research in this business. Okay.
And that's what they use.
And that's what they use.
I'm the president of your fan club.
I'm the president of your fan club.
No, but that's, but now you're creating new facts. That wasn't your situation.
No, but that's, but now you're creating new facts. That wasn't your situation.
You went ahead and dealt with that responsibly so that you could get to the other side of it. And then you have kids. And what you're saying is, well, I still don't drink because I'm an alcoholic and that's fine. But the reason you don't drink
You went ahead and dealt with that responsibly so that you could get to the other side of it. And then you have kids. And what you're saying is, well, I still don't drink because I'm an alcoholic and that's fine. But the reason you don't drink
Is because you're a mother and you know what it's like to grow up in an alcoholic household.
Is because you're a mother and you know what it's like to grow up in an alcoholic household.
Because you're smart.
Because you're smart.
I read years ago that these houses were being hit by this group of kids and Paris Hilton's house got burglarized as well. You were part of that.
I read years ago that these houses were being hit by this group of kids and Paris Hilton's house got burglarized as well. You were part of that.
I went to three high schools in my senior year.
I went to three high schools in my senior year.
Were you on Pretty Wild?
Were you on Pretty Wild?
I love.
I love.
I love it because I've got a 15-year-old daughter and any time I can spend with her, I'm taking it and that's the way we spend the time.
I love it because I've got a 15-year-old daughter and any time I can spend with her, I'm taking it and that's the way we spend the time.
Tell me about it.
Tell me about it.
No, I want the whole story.
No, I want the whole story.
And you got caught not at the scene. You
And you got caught not at the scene. You
What was the last house you guys robbed before you got there?
What was the last house you guys robbed before you got there?
So you were only physically in Orlando's home. You didn't go to any of the other homes.
So you were only physically in Orlando's home. You didn't go to any of the other homes.
You had to pick my boy Orlando, huh?
You had to pick my boy Orlando, huh?
I can't even imagine- Actually, you can make an amends to him personally, and I can make that happen today.
I can't even imagine- Actually, you can make an amends to him personally, and I can make that happen today.
All I can say is that- I think that would be cool for the ending of this podcast.
All I can say is that- I think that would be cool for the ending of this podcast.
Was she receptive?
Was she receptive?
Because she knew you guys were kids and-
Because she knew you guys were kids and-
You took a dress?
You took a dress?
Did Orlando ever get back his shit?
Did Orlando ever get back his shit?
And she let you come right home.
And she let you come right home.
Good, good.
Good, good.
You had bad behavior one night.
You had bad behavior one night.
How was it in jail?
How was it in jail?
What are the girls like in jail when you walk in? Tell me about that experience when you first get there. That's got to be just the culture shock of a lifetime.
What are the girls like in jail when you walk in? Tell me about that experience when you first get there. That's got to be just the culture shock of a lifetime.
So sorry. That is so it's horrible.
So sorry. That is so it's horrible.
In isolation?
In isolation?
So you were isolated.
So you were isolated.
Why were you, why were you in isolation?
Why were you, why were you in isolation?
That's it.
That's it.
Right.
Right.
Yeah.
Yeah.
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Yeah.
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Just one more.
Now I heard that, but wait a minute, let's go back. You were in jail from 18 to 19. Yeah. Right. And then you immediately started to continue to do drugs until what age did you go into the sober living home? Until I was 28. Okay. So you lost nine years. Yeah. Just lost them. They're gone. Yeah. Nothing positive during that period of time. Yeah. Not moving up in your career, not nothing.
Straight to heaven. All right. How'd you get to the recovery center?
And then you had this internal compass to where you knew intuitively, I feel the pull, so I'm going that way. I go against what feels not good to me anymore. That's what I'm hearing. I'm just not going to go in the direction any longer that doesn't feel clean to me.
So you were genuinely remorseful. You genuinely had a spiritual experience in that. Nobody's going to believe it. I believe it a thousand percent because it's happened to me on many occasions. But go ahead and try to tell that to the average guy on the street. They look at us like we're insane. Right. Um, that's a beautiful story. Tell me about where you met your wife.
Cause I see that you, you always say, well, my wife and I, right. It's not you. It's, you know, you've referred to this as family business. Um, It's clear you're in love with your wife. How'd you meet your wife? At church. I met her at church. Okay, I swear I saw that coming.
We would take them into the recovery homes. So you'd go pull people right off the street and put them in recovery homes. How could you pay for it? How were you able to afford to give these people the care that they needed?
So there was no red tape. The church was just like, go bring these souls to us and let's care for them. That's exactly right. And you had other people. Dude, you're going to make me start crying. I don't even know what world I'm living in anymore.
And I just beat the hell out of myself all the time because I can't do more. We can afford three people for free at a time to take care of, right? But it just, it never feels good, man. Anytime you leave someone behind, it never feels good. You know, that's why I love this church thing.
And when she was passing, I put her in this place and I went to see her that day. And she says, Richie, I don't want to be here. I want to be at home. With my family, I said, of course, I didn't know better. And I went in to the woman who owned the place and I'm like, look, I need all this stuff at her house. Oh, well, you've already paid for this and it costs more to be here.
And I'm like, hey, I didn't ask you for anything back. We're freeing you up a room. Good for you. Just get her back home and we're going to have all this stuff there. Okay. She's like, no problem. So she's going to go the next day. And this chaplain comes in and he's talking to this woman. And Lydia just looks at me while he's in mid-sentence. And she says, I don't know this man.
And I'm like, come on, please, please. And she listens to him for another 10 seconds. And she looks at me and she goes, I don't know this man. And he looks at me and he says, well, what does that mean? And I said, that means thanks for coming. So I showed her, so I showed the guy out and I'm like, what do you want from me?
He's in a church in the valley. I don't know where it is and I do not know his name, but that's the man I want to see. So I'm like, no problem. I'll figure it out, honey. And I walk out of the room and I go right into the stairwell and I just start crying. Like, where am I going to find this guy?
That is part of Mexican culture for sure. Yeah. That is the one thing. I was doing workers' comp law back in the day. And I was representing 16,000 Hispanics. Okay. It was rare where we did an MRI on somebody and didn't see anything.
So it's been five years already. Every year, this man gets the same letter and a thousand dollars.
He was a godly man. And that's the difference. He would have said something to me like, I'm sorry, man, I can't do it because I got to prepare for this talk or that. Dude, you don't have to prepare for anything. Okay, what comes out of your mouth is what God wants out of your mouth. Get over here. And he did it.
That's faith. Dude, I would have gone and grabbed him. That guy was coming. He had no choice. He just didn't. Put him in the van. He didn't know. He didn't know he had no choice. That guy was coming. Hop, tie him, throw him in the van. For sure. That's what I'm talking about. No, no. I would have duct taped him to a coffee table and just lifted the coffee table, put it right in the van.
Yeah, that was a good man. All right. I appreciate you coming on the show and telling me about your story. Why? I mean, I'm grateful. Don't get me wrong, because it's what we do here. We're the redemption show, and you're a great story, fantastic story. But why here? Why did you decide to do this for us today? I believe in timing.
discs that were bulging or wow it was rare and they never said anything and the reason they never said anything is because the feeling is if i'm not hurt then i'm not really working that's that's the mindset that's the mindset yeah very now if you if you disrespect them in any way, shape or form, now you got a problem. Okay. But physically they're working with busted backs and everything.
Dude, every day. From every woman I've ever been with.
Did you get arrested when you were a kid? I was. Did you go to jail? I did.
I didn't ask you if you were someone's girlfriend in jail. It's like I asked you if you went to jail. Drugs in jail usually go together. Yeah, yeah. Methamphetamine, man. That's, you are a miracle that you walked. How long did it, it must've taken you at least a year to two years to clear your head. Two years. Yeah. Two years.
Are you really?
That's from the hood. That's, that's, that's not from the drugs. That's from, that's from, that's environmental. Okay. Yeah. That's, that's growing up with your head on a swivel. You know, you ain't parking next to a van. Right. Right. You were on a show called Flip or Flop. That's where I started. Yes. Flip or flop. Okay. And there were two other main characters on this as well.
A guy named Tarek and somebody else. Christina. Christina and Tarek. Yes. And they were married. They were the talent. Yes. They were married. Okay. And then they got divorced. Yes. But they still stayed on the show. They still continue to make flip or flop. Okay. Yeah. And now they're no longer fighting. No. And they're like best friends. Co-parenting. Best friend co-parenting. Yeah. Right.
So they love each other, their family. Like they got to the other side of it. Remarkably. Yes. Now I hear that people are having a problem with that. Like they're not in this stuck in this Jerry Springer ask white trash nonsense, right? That they're actually created this evolvement, this environment that is beneficial to the children, right? Who's having a problem with this?
Season one came out. And so this was about... But this was already when they got to the other side. Once they got to the other side. But the ratings must have been through the roof when they were arguing. Right? Because everybody- Don't people love that? People love the train wreck, don't they? Yeah, they love the train wreck, man.
And so the ratings were through the roof and now they're loving each other. And how are the ratings? Ratings are great. Really? Yeah. They don't need like an antagonist to walk in and stir up some nonsense? Well, you'll still have a little bit of that in this show, right? You'll still have a little bit. Who's that guy? Who's the shit disturber? Yeah.
So yeah, that's, that's their, that's their MO. That's, that's the thing. Yeah. So you had that example of the father who did that. So you knew how to work.
And she's got a better man now? She's got a better man. She's got another man? She has another guy. And he's got another woman? He has another woman?
Yeah. Heather. Yeah. He's already got kids. These guys just don't miss a beat. It's like next up. Who's on deck, who's in the hall, right?
Tell me where it came from. Tell me where it came from. It came from your name, Izzy Does It. But where did that originate from? Izzy.
1980s gangster rap. So how old are you? I'm 52. Okay. So we're kind of in the same thing. Yeah. He made a song called Eazy Does It. Really? Eazy Does It. Yeah. Nice. Go hit that track later on. Make sure there's no kids around. I don't think you can play that on the outro, right? We got hammered for that. Yeah. What do you call that? Copyrights. Yeah. Copyrights. Weak. Okay. Can't even play that.
What I really want to know is, yeah, Flip and Flop was the first show that made you famous. Flip or Flop. Yeah. What's it called? Flip or Flop. What did I say?
worst. Thank God for editing.
I'm so bad at this. I suck so bad. He's thank God for him. This is so horrible.
When you did Flip or Flop, that, you know, your first show, it made you famous. Dude, what's it like to be famous from not being famous? I mean, I just like that when the light hits and you're like, oh shit, I'm a thing.
Oh, Taylor Swift. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She's famous. That's what I think. Right. Okay. But the Pope's nowhere near as famous as Taylor Swift.
Right. Yeah. Right. So if we're not, so if you're not a Taylor Swift, you're nobody.
Did you do my, did you do my what? Do you, do you do my lawn? Where do I know you from? That's so good. Do you know if I would have said that I would have been canceled. Okay. But you know, actually I can't be canceled. Tell me about the new show and your family. And it's called what? The Kardashians? The Kardashians. Yeah. That's exactly what it is.
Do they start it off with you and a hammer making big rocks into little rocks?
That's so cool, man. It is cool. There's nothing cooler than that because you teach your kids how to fish, man, and they don't ever have to worry about anything. See, that goes back to what we were talking about at the beginning about the grit and, you know, you're actually showing them how to do this. That is so cool. You know,
Tell me about what your daughter's doing because I'm so fascinated by it. I love the fact that you're working with your daughter and she's doing the social media stuff because you could have gotten anybody to do that, right? But nobody's ever going to do it for you like your baby girl.
And then she's in love with her daddy. So nobody's going to be the cheerleader for you the way your daughter will be.
Right. Or she's. In all fairness, we don't know. We don't know. How would we know? Yeah. I mean, you get a like, and you're supposed to be like this. Really? What would be the one piece of advice you would give somebody who is struggling with drugs and alcohol?
I'm scared about that, though, man, because, you know. 10 years ago, I'd say, yeah, absolutely. You're a thousand percent correct. Now I'm scared. I'm on the fence because, you know, all the street drugs have fentanyl in it. Yeah. Now 70% of them, right? So people are dying or these accidental overdoses. So I get scared. I don't, I, I try to talk them out of that, out of that last run.
It's the street. The street drugs are killing everybody. If you're not getting prescription drugs from a pharmacy- or weed from a dispensary, you're dead. It's not if, it's when. And that's the part, that's why I'm so grateful that you're here, man, because people love you.
His dad was drug dealing. He can't say it.
People just love you, you know, and this is powerful, especially in your community because you know how, how it is in your community. Very proud. Okay. Never want to look bad. Right. Okay. Embarrassed that you have a child like this.
right who's struggling and you can't save your ass and your face at the same time that that's impossible you have to choose you know yeah i think you become you you have to become vulnerable right for sure you and that takes humility and um
Yeah. Well, the good news is, is that if you're not humble, you get beaten into a state of reasonableness.
Yeah. So you get there, whether you're that humble guy or you're not. What keeps you grounded these days? I know the answer. It's going to be perfect. But what keeps you grounded these days?
Oh, so these are both the kids she brought into the marriage. Yeah. You're like Kenny. You're exactly like Kenny. My ex's boyfriend loves my children every bit as much as he loves his own.
No, there are eight houses up the street with my ex-wife, who is my best friend, okay, in the world, okay? I'm like her 67th best friend. But I don't care. She's my best friend. And her man is the closest thing I have to a brother. I mean, he's like, I love him more than anything. Wow. Because I've never met a man ever this good. And his name is Kenny. Yeah. All right. Dr. Kenneth Spielvogel.
He's Jewish. I got a Jew baby doctor, but it doesn't get better than that. Okay. And he's sitting there right with my kids. My kids got a sniffle. I'm good. Wow. Uh-huh.
Yeah, so you guys are making it work. Making it work. Everywhere I'm weak, he's strong. Everywhere I'm strong, he's weak. We're like the perfect man together.
Absolutely, man. Absolutely. You know how people say it's good to be gotten, right? It feels that's part of the attraction. When you meet somebody, you guys get each other. Okay. There's a quality of that in therapy, right?
Are we ready to make news? Yeah, let's do it. All right. Give me something newsworthy that nobody knows.
I heard that it was rated in the top 10 of all HGTV shows.
If you can go back and talk to your younger self, what would you say?
So I've got a friend in the other room who is a huge fan of yours. Her name's Karen. Do you mind if I ask her to come in and ask you one question? Is that cool?
That's awesome.
Hey, man, nobody's got more patience than you. You are a patient, kind soul. Thank you for coming. I appreciate that. Thank you. How can people find you? Hey.
There it is.
I'm scared of how I'm doing it with my kids. I like the way your dad did it with you, you know, because you're too soft with your kid. Yeah. I mean, but he's, he's a good kid. Right. So it's like, what am I, I'm just scared about grit and resilience. Right. Like we have it because we had to. right? It, it scares me. You know, there's this guy came on here. His name is, what's his name? Shin.
What's his first name? Jimmy Shin. Okay. He's a, a world renowned comedian. And he said, Tough times make strong people. Strong people make good times. Good times make weak people. Right? Weak people create hard times and on and on. And so it scares me sometimes. I don't know if I'm getting it right or not.
Yeah.
Is that like the carrot and the stick? Yeah. There you go. Cause I don't know if I want to get hit with a rod or a towel. Like, like is the towel wet?
Wow. You're farther along than I am and you're working with your daughter. And so that's a good sign. Like when your kids want to work with you, you raised them right. So, but you got along good with your parents, right? Oh yeah.
So you mentioned facing addiction early on. What was that chapter like in your life? Um...
I just stopped. I love that you said that. I love that you said that because it is fun. It starts off all fun. Then you graduate to fun with problems and then you graduate to all problems. Sorry, I interrupted you. I just love the honest.
Yeah. Yeah. You got to check her past, my man. Yeah. Smoking PCP is the real thing. Back in the hood, it was so inexpensive.
Izzy. Yes, sir. Thank you for coming today. This is a big deal. And I'm very grateful to you. Well, thank you for inviting me out here. And I was looking forward to this. Yeah. All right. So I want to go through a little story for the people that may or may not know who you are. Tell me about your childhood.
It was. Dude, everybody loves you. Everybody's shocked right now. Right? Yeah. The next thing you know. Listen, it's not like he has a ice cream truck parked in front of his house. Okay. It's come on. This isn't the worst thing in the world.
Wow. That is a good man. He was willing to go to any length. Do you know his name? I don't know his name. He's a star.
Really? Yeah. They wouldn't let somebody who was convicted, right? Convicted, yeah. Of armed robbery. Was that what it was? Strong arm. Strong arm robbery. Well, you would think that's kind of like what we want in our soldiers, no? No. There's a little bit of violence. Yeah. We want our soldiers violent, but we don't take violent people into the military. Yeah. Can we get back to common sense now?
I mean, it only sounds stupid when you say it out loud, right? It does. It does. Okay. All right. This is okay. So you spent time in a recovery home. Mm-hmm. How did that come about?
How long were you doing that for? 10 years? Yeah. You're unusually clear. Yeah. Normally when people do meth for that long, they never make it back. They don't have that clarity and the presence and the connection that you have. They're all over the place. So with...
Dylan, I just figured out why nobody works anymore. They're all working, but they're not going into an office. They're not working for employers.
Dude, you're the best. You're the best. Appreciate you. No, you just are. You got it. Hey, do you know how to monetize all this stuff, Dylan? Because we can take this stuff, whatever it is, and just give it to charity. find charities to give it to. Right? Then we can put a water up and just have these guys write the checks to charity, no? Yeah. That's cool. Dude, that's light work.
It's always worth it. Oh my God. It's totally worth it to me. Do you know why? Why? Because Dylan does it. Oh, Dylan, is it worth it to you? It's worth it. All right. It's worth it. See, that's why we need a camera there to capture that. Yeah. Right? Yeah. It's like, cause you know, it's like half the time people are going, is there really a Dylan? Dale, the man, the myth. Is that right?
Joe Rogan is buff, though. You're buff too, bro. Now I'm just wearing this like tight shirt. Trying a tight shirt to make me look buff. Nah, he's lying. He be in them weights like crazy. No, this guy, this guy went ahead and got into an ice bath. Like Joe Rogan. He like dumped his, and I'm like crying. I'm, I'm feeling, cause you know, I'm an empath, right? So I'm such a, I cried for him.
What do you want me to ask, Lisa?
A little bit more about the food, because it seems like you're creative, obviously, with your music and stuff, but it seems like you have a love of cooking, and it's creative for you. Can you tell us about that process and some of your favorite things that you like to cook?
I like really spicy. Well, check this out. I like really, I don't like, when I tell them hot at the store, at the restaurant, I say, not for a gringo, for you. Right? So, I mean, and that's how I do it. I mean, but then my burns for two days. That bidet in there is very strong. Right? Yeah. I recommend. I don't really like seafood in my Mexican food. I don't. No?
But that's probably because I've never had it done right or I've never, you know, had something. Look, if you made me, you can come back here and we're going to do a whole cooking show here. Oh yeah, let's do it.
Hand me that. Hand me that. Let me show you. No, no. Let me show you. Ah, ah, ah, ah. Yes. This is who you just wanted to. Oh, no, I did not say that. I didn't talk about that. I was talking about the stove and the seat. Oh, the stove. I thought you were talking about my Kobe Bryant bobblehead.
We can let him rack on every podcast.
You know, I didn't even... He was great. I loved him. But you know when I fell in love with him? When? After he... After his... Like watching all those interviews and stuff? Watching... That man taught me how to be a better father. I am. That's real. And that's everything. He was just the best father. And I know a few people that know him. And it was, you know what I did?
I turned the Empire State Building purple and gold the day or maybe the night he died. The night he died, yeah. What do you mean by that? Well, my buddy across the street from me in Malibu on broad beach, um, uh, has an iPhone and he's the one responsible for turning the empire state building, uh, different colors from his phone, from his phone. Yeah. He does that from his phone in Malibu.
He controls, he controls, he controls it. And so I called him and I said, Hey man, I need you to do me a favor. And he said, uh, the owners are in New Zealand. I don't think I can do it. I'm going to, I don't want to get in trouble. And I said, dude, you're not going to get in trouble. You're going to be a hero. You just did the right thing. Okay. They're going to think you're a star player.
Come on, man, do this for me. And he never got back to me. And I was watching sports center and And I saw it on SportsCenter and I just started bawling. That's beautiful.
The cool story. No, yeah. So because we talked about it and we were talking about that chef, that chef show. Yeah. Right. Right. Tell me about, and then I said, when we get on here, just like, don't say anything about, you've only been doing this for a short period of time. He said, no, no, no, no, no. That's the best part. That's the best part.
I want to pay for the hoodie. No, it's a... No, no. Dylan, on the way out... Make certain they have a link or whatever, however you do it, to send everybody to the hoodies, everybody to the chef stuff. That's phenomenal. You just made me hungry and I'm already full. We just ate and now I'm hungry. You know, we don't want to know something crazy.
Did you come out all orange? Yeah. No, actually. Do you look like an orangutan?
So check it out. We have a good vibe. We have a good conversation always. And this started out as just a fentanyl thing, right? An awareness for fentanyl so kids wouldn't die and parents wouldn't have to deal with the pain. But man, it's tough to talk about fentanyl. Yeah. It just is. I mean, it just destroys you, but I got a hit on it. No. Yeah. I mean, it's the show.
I don't even have anything cool to say about that.
And, um, you ever done fentanyl? No. Do you press perks? No, no, never.
You look like the type of guy that would be like, hell no, hot Cheetos are not it. Dude, I'm 58. I eat something like that, I might just stroke out. You know, I could drop right there.
Take your parents to a strip club. Yes, I took my parents to the strip club before. Oh, you want to hear the best strip clubs? Yes. Story ever. I'll take you to tell me the best strip club to go to. I've been to a strip club in 25, 30 years. Oh yeah, I mean, I mean. The best strip club story ever. Let me ask you a question. I heard that at every show, at least one person falls out and dies.
That's what I heard. And that's what all these rappers are telling me.
See, that's the part that pisses me off because everybody's desensitized to it. Okay. Everybody, you got these kids jumping around. Okay. And somebody falls out. Nobody gives a shit. And, you know, it's just, That was somebody's kid. Yeah. That mother is swinging from a shower rod, man. She don't want to live. Never. I mean, it is the most heartbreaking thing I've ever heard in my life.
I mean, how many friends do you have die of fentanyl or acquaintances that you know of?
Well, it's usually the girls because guys are giving it to them so that they can get with her. Yeah, that's crazy. Because they lack the game. OK, to to make it consensual and get this woman hot for them. Right. So it's easier to pull a Bill Cosby.
You know, the cocaine now nobody can handle because 70% of it's laced with fentanyl.
Oh, yeah. Holy shit. Check this out. Did you know that... Every seven minutes, someone between the age of 18 and 45 dies of fentanyl. Every seven minutes in this country. Holy. Dude, it's that bad? Oh, yeah. Bro, that's crazy. Dude, someone's already dropped and we're only seven minutes into this thing. It's the worst. And the worst part about it is you're close with your old man, right?
We're going to need another podcast. Yeah. And so. No, I mean, not for us. We're going to do one for us. We're going to need another podcast. This is starting to weigh on me. it started to weigh on me now.
But let me ask you a question. Do you buy your weed in a dispensary or you get it on the street?
But people will grow it basically. Yeah. But why not do it? Why not get it from a dispensary?
Well, it's a thing now. Believe me. I thought my parents were lying when they started telling me that. No, no. Well, no one's important enough to lie to and I don't lie. Okay. So I'm telling you that's a thing. So, what would make me feel more comfortable is if you only got that stuff at the dispensary. Because once you get it at the dispensary, dispensary is not going to take any of that stuff.
Because if they do, they're going to lose their license. You just have to make certain... It's a legit dispensary and not one of those pop-ups, right? And then they're open until they get shut down and then they pop up somewhere else the next day. That's what happens.
Okay, so you're going to pay an extra 20 bucks an ounce, 30 bucks. Who cares? You just said that you're in love with your family. Yeah. Okay. And they all rely on you. It's a family business. You're the family business, right? Okay. But where's the family business without you?
Well, I've kind of been doing this a while.
Yeah.
You love your old man. I mean, I heard you while we were eating pancakes.
Your parents had an unlicensed rehab. Yes. That's awesome.
They would have been vibing for sure. Oh, my God. Do you know if you would have brought your parents, I would have lost my shit. I would have been so happy. I probably would have cried like a little bitch.
You're the kids who are dying.
You're the kids who are dying.
How were the pancakes?
And then because most of you are glorifying it, the kids who are listening to you are dying.
And I have teenagers. And I thought if I didn't do it, I would be punished. So I didn't have a choice. I feel that. I didn't want to do a podcast.
I'm an executive chairman of a healthcare corporation. Nobody can believe I'm doing this. Damn. Nobody. Trust me, in my world, everybody is pissed off that I'm doing this, and I don't care. Because doing the right thing is hard sometimes. I've never even seen a podcast. I've never even listened to a podcast. Ever. I think it's stupid. This isn't for money.
They were. They were so good. But your father's in love with you. Can you imagine the pain he would have if you did cocaine and were gone? He'd lose his mind.
This is to do the right thing because I can. That's why. That's solid, man.
Yeah, and if I wasn't so damn tortured, it would be great.
I don't really give a shit about anybody but the kids and the parents to keep the... Because it's not something...
I would just die. Like, my heart would break. To, just to think about it is more than I can bear.
So, yeah. So, give me three tips on what I could, you know, just around the house find and whip up something for my kids.
You close with your mom?
That's cool. Hey, do me a favor, will you? Okay. I'm going to run out to go to my cardiologist before my heart falls out. Okay. Seriously. I, you know, I mean, I've got small kids, you know, I gotta make it till tomorrow. So, so I'm going to go do that. And you're in the, and you're in the, um, you're in the Bay area. Yup. San Jose, California. Second chef in the Bay area.
God, he's the greatest. We'll make some curry. Before we end, I just want to say one thing and then you'll walk us out of here, okay? All right. Coach Saban, you're breaking my heart. Okay.
Do you ever do it on a live stream on Instagram?
It's also the Latin connection. Yeah, yeah. People always feel more connected to their people for some reason. It's getting less so now with the kids today because kids don't see color anymore. Yeah. They just don't. They just don't, which is the greatest part about the kids today. But you've been in this game since you were a child. Yeah, forever. How did it affect you, man?
Different, different, different problems. Yeah. As you're like, you'll see as your life gets bigger. Okay. Um, your problems get bigger, right? It's the basic stuff, right? That is cool. Like you don't have to worry about, you know, a roof over your head or you don't have to worry about the food, right? Yeah. Uh,
But there's just all these pressures when you're building a life and you're ascending into, you know, you're the best version of yourself. Right. And when you get there, it's just, you know, you got to be on point. Right. You got to know what you're doing. And anyway, I forgot what.
I guess when you have more money, you have more responsibility. And then you have more to lose. Yeah. Right? So it's not just about making it anymore. It's about keeping what you've got. And not only that, but growing. And there's just a lot of, hey, I promise you, when we get there, you'll be back and we'll do that whole thing. But you're killing it right now. You're 22.
I mean, you're just destroying it. Thank you. I appreciate that. No, no problem. I want to talk about the cooking.
Yeah. Because I figured that was going to come up as a boy. Well, that's, that's look, man, the rap thing don't last forever. Okay. What was that thing in, uh, You know who Cypress Hill is? Yeah. You didn't know that song, Rap Game or Rap Superstar? I'm not sure. I'm not sure about that. You don't know Rap Superstar. All right.
So they go through these lyrics in there and it's like, this game ain't going to last forever. You got to get your money. Right. When you can't. And you feel like you're just getting your love back now because these adults were bad
bumming you out you know and and they didn't know how to deal with a young kid and nurture him and love him they just they're a bunch of suits and you know just a bunch of right so who needs that so they cost you that love and the longer you stay away from them okay you'll you'll get it back Okay. Trust me. Cause you're gifted. Okay. I listened to your stuff before you came on. Okay.
I mean, you're gifted. Okay. But there's nothing cooler than being a chef. And when we were talking about it beforehand, you lit up like a Christmas tree. Like you really love it. So you said, you said you had a story about it. You said, no, no, no, bitch. The story's cooler. And I said, save it for the show.
Well, I appreciate it, man, because it's for good cause, you know, and this fentanyl thing's killing everybody. So let me ask you a couple of questions.
Stop. Stop. Show that camera that eight pack again. No, no. You're going to get more ass than a toilet seat in a minute. Okay? No, seriously. You're going to get more ass than a bus bench. Go ahead and open that up.
You make a million bucks a month if you could do that. Only fans.
Can I ask you a question? Yeah. Do your parents ever say, finish your plate because there are kids starving? Yes. They did, right? Yes. But we finished the leftovers. We finished everything. But let me ask you a question. When they said that, truth. Tell me the truth. Weren't you thinking, like, this is going to really get to South Africa? Really?
I was like, you're not going to send it to Africa, right? Like, if I don't eat it, who's going to eat it?
Our house is like- So then why not just give somebody like a little dose of NyQuil, okay? Knock them out so you can eat their potatoes. Like, that's crazy. You say Bill Cosby didn't take their food. Said the rehab guy. Unreal. I take it back. I'm sorry.
Which he should have won. Um, But that's how long he's cared about this thing, right? And one of the great days was the introduction to you. And I was reading today in April of 2023, you guys had a setback with Alexandra's Law, okay? Before you get into that setback, can you tell the audience what Alexandra's Law is?
the problems you had with it in April, and exactly what it does now included into Prop 36.
It doesn't seem like it's hard to prove right now. Not now. There's somebody dying every seven minutes in this country.
This, to the listeners, doesn't sound like common sense. Does sound like common sense. It doesn't. Because... Even the passage of this seems so light and so just ridiculous. Give me some examples if you know of them in red states that just aren't having any of this. Do you know anything like that? Well, in many red states, they've passed legislation that's actually tougher. That's my point.
Give me some examples, because that's where you're going to find the common sense. Right.
Okay, today's Fentanyl Awareness Day. And what we're going to do for that is we're going to honor the families who have lost their loved ones to fentanyl. And the best way to do that is to introduce you to a gentleman by the name of Matt Capilouto. But I know him as Alexandra's dad. So... Welcome, Matt. How you doing, man? Thank you. Thank you for having me, Rich. Appreciate it.
Very quickly. Yes, this was too harsh. The slap on the wrist was too harsh. Yes, the warning was. This is so funny. Dylan, we have to put this on the camera. Okay. We have to get a real, it's a get out of jail free card, just like you would have in Monopoly. This is genius. I like this. Chance, sell drugs, kill Americans, go directly to jail. Do not pass go, do not collect $200.
And then you've got this. To our website. To your website. Yeah.
This is actually what the judge or the bailiff will read these folks, these dealers being charged with this. Okay, this is good. Oh, okay, it's better. Okay. Okay. Yeah, I have a feeling that in some of these red states, it's like you deal fentanyl and you're like locked up for over a decade.
I want to go over the fentanyl thing federally for a second because I've been doing some research for a long time. And what I did was I was putting these things down and then I cross-referenced them with what President Trump is currently doing for the fentanyl crisis and what he's going to be doing in short order. And I'm very encouraged by what he's been doing.
So the first thing he's done is he's disrupted domestic fentanyl labs and pill mills with DEA tasks, task forces. That's fantastic, right? He's increased funding to law enforcement for drug interdiction and border enforcement. That's good. Okay. He's strengthened the border detection tech and canine units at ports of entry. And really, I was just viewing the news the other night.
The illegal entry into the United States from the southern border has essentially stopped. He expanded access to naloxone and makes it available over the counter. He's done more of that. Funded state-level harm reduction programs. Okay, that's not true. That's going on right now. He's not going to have an ear for that. Okay? And you shouldn't.
Because there's many ways to do harm reduction, right? Fentanyl strips are not the way to go, okay? Because they don't work.
Well, that's a that's this is a holistic plan, right? Yeah. And these are the things he's doing currently. Let me tell you what he's going to be doing. He is going to broker a deal with China to stop exporting fentanyl precursor chemicals. Okay. I've said all along that is the most surveilled country in the world. They know where everybody is and what they're doing at all times.
They're looking the other way. Okay. And right now this is affecting our military. So it's a national security issue. If he hasn't already, he will be classifying fentanyl trafficking as a national security threat. He's going to be, if he hasn't already, designating Mexican cartels as foreign terrorist organizations. I think I heard something about that just recently. This is my all-time favorite.
It's a big deal, huh? It is a big deal. I mean, I'm not crazy about having a day. Yeah. Okay? That seems kind of lame and, you know, gratuitous. Wish there wasn't a need for it. Well, I mean, every day should be Fentanyl Awareness Day. Tell me about Alexandra and what made her so special.
Authorize cross-border strike capabilities for cartel labs in coordination with Mexico. Or not in coordination with Mexico. I care not at all. I care not at all. Yeah, not at all. Okay. Launch a nationwide fentanyl education and warning campaign for middle and high schools, which is exactly what you and I are doing every day. Right? This is, you know, here's the reason.
If you're not affected by fentanyl, if you don't have a child or a loved one who's gone, you don't feel it. Your life is busy. You're like, okay, this sucks. This is a bad deal. It's horrible. Right. You know, but it doesn't land. Right. And, and I've got young children. And it seems insane to me for parents with young children, youngish children, teenagers, early 20s.
It's like, if you're not interested in this and you've had children, why'd you have children?
And with your daughter, the important thing to know is she wasn't an active drug user. See, the people that are active drug users, fentanyl users, don't typically die because they know how to use fentanyl. It's the kids from college or high school that go to a party or whatever that are not sophisticated at this. They're the ones dying. So it's really harming the kids that...
And we're out of time because they're dying. That's why. Do you know we call this we're out of time? Great name. Well, because you. That's why. Dude, everything was because of you. Everything I've done after hearing your story, everything I've done is because of you. Let's go.
I want to finish this thing because I want to create some hope around this thing nationally because we're at a time where our president, okay, is not like other presidents. He creates a vaccine in nine months that takes 20 years to do. OK, he doesn't care about Congress or the courts telling him what he can't do. He's going to do what he wants to do. Right.
You know, I call it a more modern democracy. It's going to be a modern democracy going forward. OK, that's just what this is. Real quick, mandate digital warnings on social media platforms where pills are sold, Snapchat, Telegram, etc. Okay, that would be amazing, right?
Right, but they're smart enough to have AA algorithms that when people are looking at that specific content, I'm not talking about an Elmo video or an unboxing video for five-year-olds, right? I'm talking about something that comes up in or around that subject. And then it's like warning where it's flashing. Okay. Support that 100%. And he's going to do it.
And there's no reason not to do it because it's not around other content. So it's not going to affect their bottom line. This is something that needs to be done. I mean, it's come on. Mark, come on, man.
Alexandra's Law, or something stricter, obviously, nationally. Okay. And it is right now.
Wouldn't it be great if the president instituted something where the federal government had to oversee specifically that they were doing these cases and that they weren't just blowing it on?
This is the perfect president for the fentanyl issue. He's perfect, okay, for this, okay? You cannot find a better man. You can't.
Okay. Create a fentanyl specific federal charge with mandatory minimums. He's doing it. launch a national treatment infrastructure build out 1,000 new centers in five years. I don't know if he's going to do that. It's a challenge. It's ambitious. I just don't know if that's in his wheelhouse. I do know this.
I do know that if he knew that there were building after building after building vacant at the VA, I know for certain he'd be like, Throw him in there. Treat those people. I mean, that man must be aggravated all day long.
Okay, and... I agree to that. There's more awareness around it, thank God. There's more access to Narcan.
OK, that needs it needs to be hit on every level. OK, because that's how wars are fought. Right. It doesn't take a year to get off fentanyl. OK, depending on the length of usage and the amount of usage, it could take you a year to for your head to completely clear. OK, but it's rare, very rare. OK, this thing typically can be knocked out in 90 days.
okay, with a good aftercare program because it's like anything else. If you don't use it, you lose it, right? You walk out of a treatment center on fire, I'm good, I'm going to kill it, right? And then, you know, 90 days later, they're back where they were because, you know, you don't go through 40 hours of treatment a week and then just walk into nothing. That's not reality.
There's one thing I'll never know, right? But remember, you called me and didn't you want me to spend money on a billboard? Didn't you do that? Yes. Right?
Do you remember the day? November 5th, 2024. November 5th, 2024. Excellent. Now... When did it start gaining traction? At the beginning of 2024? Was it a little before that? Because I remember in April, in April 2023, you had that huge setback. So when did it start where you said, okay, this now has a shot?
So if you're listening to this podcast... And you've had enough of that nonsense. There are the four people to get rid of as quickly as possible.
But if you can drive a car at 16, okay, which it has deadly capabilities, okay, then you should be able to, like, can't you go to war at 18? Yeah.
Yeah. 16 and 18, 16 through 18 should be a different standard. Right.
When did this thing start really taking hold? There was a taunt. Was it in 2024?
Where if you write out of the line this much, they don't count signature.
So really what they're saying is there's 70% of the people in California who have common sense. Yeah. Yeah. You know, that's good news. I didn't think that that was that high.
Let me just go back because these are people. This was a this was not a liberal movement. idea the liberals were very much against this in california so to have where 60 where two-thirds of the state is democrat to have 70 of the state say uh-uh this is a bridge too far you're dealing this stuff you're going to jail
Drug offense dealing or using? Either. Okay, well, you can never lent those two, but go on.
Who the hell goes through... three convictions of anything. 99% of cases settle.
That's not going to make a big difference. And the reason it's not going to make a big difference is exactly what I told you. Okay. They're going to plead. Okay. So they're never going to be in that situation. Now, a lot of the times the pleading will result in that. Yes.
So that's not in there yet. No, it is in there. Okay. So what does it say? What is the definition of completely completed their treatment? Well, I imagine, you know, if it's a number of steps.
I don't know what that includes. So you'd have to read more in the details of Prop 13. I want you to send that. I don't want to put them on the screen. Because that's bull. And let me tell you, Walk, depending on how you define that, Okay. It doesn't mean anything. It's like saying, what is your success rate in a rehab? People ask me that all the time. I'm like, what criteria?
Because every single rehab uses a different criteria to serve them and make them look good. My definition is a year sober with regular testing every week. Okay, so that you know, you don't think you know, you know, you know, it's real, right? So a year sober, you know, six months in a rehab and six months in a sober living with outpatient. Okay, that to me sounds like, okay, you're good.
I would even say further, it might be an extra two years OK. Right. So if you fall in the next two years, it's not expunged. Right. So these are the types of things that I would be interested to know.
But that goes back... That's not... That's illusory. Okay? It's illusory because... 98% or 99% are being settled out. They're not going to trial. They're not being arrested. You're saying they're not even being arrested? That's correct. Absolutely. You didn't say convicted. You said arrested. Arrested. Both. Both. 98% of the fentanyl dealers don't even get arrested. Absolutely.
So they're out there and the cops are just, I don't want to deal with this right now.
And we need to shift that. Why are they writing it up as an accidental overdose? How would they know? Why wouldn't they just write it up as an overdose and then let the legal process take its course? Because if it's marked non-criminal. There's no further investigation. What do you mean? How do you mark an overdose non-criminal before you've investigated it?
OK, so but they don't know. So why not, Nathan? There's your next deal.
The vast majority do not. Come on. I don't even know any here for this. There's nothing like, you know, this type of uh trauma and it's really murder it's poison it's not it's not they're not overdosed they're being poisoned right to death yeah so i've never heard of something like this and then somebody gets a an admonishment in court and people are like yay this is nonsense to me
But then you deal it again, but nobody dies. It doesn't take effect, does it? Well, if somebody does die, and they can- Forget that. In this scenario, the guy goes in, he sells fentanyl, nobody dies, he gets arrested, and he's read an admonishment in court. There is no conviction. It's- It's in stone. It's part of the deal. If you want to leave today, this is the deal you're cutting.
And then they do that. Five minutes later, he's out on the street dealing again, but nobody dies. What did the admonishment... Well, keep in mind, so we mirrored our current... Forget that. I'm talking about the law right now.
However, that's true and I'll tell you why that's happening. But true or untrue, you get an admonishment, you leave the courthouse before you hit the car, you're caught dealing again, you're arrested and back in court, but nobody dies. Other than what did the admonishment in that scenario mean?
The answer is nothing, correct? If you don't, if you get the admonishment... I'm not talking shit about the admonishment, dude. I'm the president of the fan club right now about admonishment. Somebody doesn't have to listen to it. They don't have to. I understand. But they're setting themselves up for trouble in the future. I understand that.
But true or untrue, does there anything different happen to them if they leave the courtroom, they just got the admonishment, they're back the next day, but no one dies?
Okay. That's good. That's good news. Right. I was hoping there'd be something because, you know, you said to yourself that there's not investigating a ton of these things.
They'll start doing it now because now they have the support. Yeah. of knowing they're going to be convicted, right? Before they knew that it was a waste of their time. So why would they do it? I get it. And there's too many of their constituents who have now lost a loved one that are demanding it.
Now, let me tell you why there were so many people, okay, that stopped drinking and driving once the admonishment happened. Only five to 10% of the country rise to the level of drug addiction or alcoholism? Only about 10%. What does that mean? Well, there's the rest of us, the other 90% of us that have high bottoms. We're not dependent on it. We're not thinking about it all day, right?
So those people immediately, over half of those people are going to immediately go, ah, never again. Those are the rule followers among us. And the rest, to various degrees, are going to be compliant. So because of that and because it's in our consciousness from back of mind to front of mind, what happens is you're always going to have a huge positive result when you do something like that.
I think I might have said something earlier in the podcast to conflict that and I was wrong.
You and I both get caught drinking and driving. We both go in front of the court. The judge looks at you and says, Matthew, if you ever drink and drive again, you're going to jail for a decade. Do you hear me? And you're like, yes, sir, my ass is kicked. And you can actually make a decision in that moment. Never drinking and driving again. Me? I'm told that? I'm going to jail. I know it.
I'm factoring it in. Go to jail. Right? I mean, check. Right? It's just a matter of time. So I don't have a choice. How can other families support your mission?
Was she on psych medication?
Now, you know, the podcast is here because of you and your daughter. We've been doing it.
I know I had them all on my, you helped me to find them. I got all those people on that PSA that I ran up in Sacramento for a year. Fentanyl changes everything.
When Alexandra's love was being hurt. From October 23 through and including December 24. Yeah. Wow. You know, I didn't even know your name forever. What did I used to call you?
Like you said, we're out of time. So before you go, I wanted to tell you about an idea I had, right, that I think would be really good. I want you to write a beginning, a middle, and an end to a documentary or a short film about your daughter and fentanyl. Don't get into the passage of anything and none of that noise, okay? Just how wonderful your daughter was, right?
I'll want video afterwards of her maybe as a baby and with her parents and Pappy, right? And then... As she grows up and what made her so special, right? And then what happened? So a beginning, a middle, and an end, okay? I'm thinking 10, 15 minutes max, right? When you do that, I'll have it made into that movie, that short film, and we'll show it in every school in the country, okay?
How many times did you guys go through... the process of trying this psych medication and then that that didn't work or that didn't have a it did make her feel good and then went to the second one to try that and rule that one out and then go to the third did you have that experience yeah i'll tell you uh
think that's realistic okay well it's fentanyl awareness day so let's call it may june how's by july 1st so we can get this thing out let's call it uh september 1st okay huh good goal yeah you gotta set a goal yeah uh i think you know what that lines up well with everything here the beginning of the new school year
All right. After you write this thing, you start dealing with your school people and let's get it in your area first. Yeah.
And if they don't, what are we going to do, Dylan, if they don't do it? We'll make sure they do it. We'll make sure they do it. For sure. We will move accordingly. We will move accordingly.
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parent to think this cannot happen to their family to their kids they've simply forgotten what it's like to be a teenager it's not about me it's not about you it's about the lives that are going to be lost if we don't step up and do something now like you said we're out of time thank you for listening to the we're out of time podcast with richard tate if you haven't already please follow the podcast rate and review and if you're getting value out of we're out of time share it with someone else you know for fentanyl awareness day a special message from our new los angeles district attorney nathan hawkman
They're desensitized. I have a handful of doctors who have never lost the love.
It's built for physical pain, but it works better on emotional pain. And the reason she was using that and why she would have continued to use that is because if that quiets the mind and you're telling yourself what a piece of garbage you are all day long, this is wrong with me, that's wrong with me, all this other stuff, and it quiets the mind, you're going to do that until the wheels fall off.
Was she scoring pills on the street prior to this? And if so, for how long?
They found a bag with 10 other pills. So we don't know if she took half a pill or one pill and then...
Whatever happened to ignorance of the law is no excuse. And he got nine years.
You won't be there to say, this is where my daughter would have been X years. you know, old, this guy's been doing this forever. He said right here, he knew what he was doing. You think my daughter's the only one? You can't, you're not going to do that? There's nothing that can add to his sentence. No, but you can keep them there an extra year and a half.
Good. This guy gets a job. You should be taking 25% of his salary for the rest of his life. Okay, but let's get into a couple things because I wanted to talk about them. The first thing I was reading today because the DA Nathan Hockman introduced us well before he was, um, uh, running for DA. He was running for, um, attorney general for attorney general state of California. That's right.
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Now, let me ask you a question. Then you went and bought the farm.
You still have the farm? I still have the farm. What are you using the farm for? Nothing right now. It's just sitting there. Yeah, so I got to teach you something, right? I got to teach you something because I made that same mistake. And then my buddy Charlie told me something. I had 10 homes. And they were almost all sitting empty. And he looked at me. Really the same way? That's right.
And he looked at me and he said, hey, listen to me. Abundance good, excess bad. Every home has to have a purpose. Now for me, that was like a spiritual experience. Right. Right? You don't know what you don't know. So. I'm like, what do you mean? And he said, well, you live in a house. Your children live in another house with their ex. You have to do something with these other homes.
So I rented out six of them, now seven today. Okay. Seven homes. Okay. And now there's nine, right? And my home and the family home, right? But every home has a purpose, right? Seven of them are returning income, right? And two of them we need to live. Every home has to have a purpose, right? you have to figure out what to do with that farm.
And if you want help with that when this thing's over, we'll talk about that. We'll find some ideas for that.
You're bleeding money. You're not creating eggs. You're not creating vegetables. You haven't rented it out. And you're paying property tax, you're paying insurance, and you're paying a mortgage. So right now, you're getting your ass kicked. I am. For no reason. Okay? Now, you're a star player because you got a farm.
Yeah. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Okay, that's good. But you don't need a whole farm for that. You put a chicken coop in the backyard of... Yeah, yeah, that's true. I got goats.
So let's talk about your drug use because you love your grandmother. Okay, and your grandmother is in love with her baby boy. That is for sure. You said you're still doing drugs. Okay, now I know you're smoking weed, but let's put that aside. Let me just ask one thing about the weed. Yeah, you make me emotional. Why, buddy? What made you emotional? What part of it?
Where was your mother?
or what the drugs are doing to your grandmother. Yeah, that's what it is. That's right. Now, What drugs... Forget the weed right now for a minute. As long as you're getting weed at the dispensary, you're not going to die. They're putting fentanyl on the weed now, dude. On the street. Where the f*** could they sell weed on the street if there wasn't fentanyl in it?
Or it wasn't laced with something that makes no sense at all.
Anybody can walk into a dispensary. Okay? It's like legal. Right. Okay? So, that's... just don't buy it on the street. But what are you, what are you doing now?
You know, do you know why that is? How long have you been doing it?
Oh, yeah, I do. I'm pretty certain I know the reason. And by pretty certain, I mean certain-cert. The reason you can't get sober or get off that, forget sober, the reason you can't get off the lean is because there are opioids. And if you do it every day for longer than five to seven days, you don't have it anymore. It's got you. So physically, you need it.
Of course, because you're a baby at 15. But why wasn't she living at home with her parents and you?
Because if you don't have it, you're going to get sick. Violently sick. You know that, right? Yeah. Okay. You want to stop doing it? Yeah. Well, you know what I do for a living, right? I mean... What do I do for a living?
That's right. I get people off drugs. But anybody can get people off drugs. I keep people off drugs. That's the difference. So, you want to go into treatment today? Oh, you didn't see that coming, huh? You're on glue. What'd you think, man? I was going to let some guy in here dependent and sick, right? And just not go, oh, hey, see you later, dude. Good luck.
You're going today. You're going to get well today. And you're never going to have to live like this again. Not ever. Not ever again. And as long as you don't pick up again, you're never going to need it again and you're never going to be a slave to it. Slavery ended in 1865. Okay? But you're a slave to drugs.
Yeah. the best laid plans go completely awry okay your intentions are honorable you want to get off of it it's not your fault that you can't nobody can nobody because people who stop doing what you're doing cold turkey they can die
from the detox right and depending on how long you've been doing it and how much you're doing it okay that's going to tell you pretty much whether or not you're going to drop and i didn't ask you those questions yet but i don't need to you're going to be assessed okay by nurses and doctors and you'll be fine okay you'll be fine you got health insurance Really?
What kind of health insurance you got?
But the good news is, is you get to come to treatment anywhere you want.
You're going to make me start crying. Fuck. Your grandparents proud of you?
You are? Yeah. Oh, you think you're moving on the 15th? That sucks. Huh? You're moving today. You're moving into treatment today. You ain't moving on the 15th. You said you want to go to treatment today. What?
You love her? Yes. She on the pills? She on the lean? No. She do any of that? Only smoke. Only smoke. How does she feel about it?
Smoking hot, right? Yes. Yeah, bro. You're going. You want to go. And you're going to go. You're going to have a good life. and we'll talk about it off air. We don't need to do this whole thing here, but you're going to go. You love it. You want a life, okay? Your grandmother is in love with you. Your girlfriend's in love with you, and the most important thing is you've got a child.
How old is your child?
Dude, you're missing it. You're missing it. The best time with my kids was between two and a half and six. You got another year that you're never getting back. You better be clear for that because you want to remember it. You really do. Okay. I mean, this is the best time of your life right now on my life. This child, when you're with this child, is there anywhere you'd rather be?
You guys live together or no?
How often do you see your boy?
Really? God, that's so good. Where is he now?
How long have you been here?
If you're going to be here, you got to move her out.
You cannot be away from your child. Sorry, man.
Different mothers?
Same mother. And do you have her the majority of the time or no?
Do not. You will never forgive yourself. And then you won't stop doing these opioids. And the reason you're not going to stop doing it is because it works. They call them painkillers for a reason. It works better on emotional pain.
than it does on physical pain physical pain I take four Advil and two extra strength Tylenol and I'm as good as you can be right okay but for emotional pain the pain you're in and the pain that you're gonna be in if you do this that's what the lean is for the lean is for so you don't have to feel and fall apart I swear to God, dude. I'm wrong about a lot of things.
Not if I'm opening my mouth about stuff like this, I'm not. But it's the only thing I know, so... If I wasn't good at this, I'd have no value at all. You know? You're not going to have to live like this anymore, I promise. You're not.
Congratulations, bro. Congrats.
Congrats, man. Good.
Listen, there are a lot of people that hide the ball when it comes to financial literacy. I'm not one of them. It's one of the reasons I love talking to the underground rap scene. They have no clue about it. And I definitely, I'm begging to teach them. Because... I've made so many mistakes and I want to make certain that others don't make them because a lot of people don't come back from it.
Now, I did, but I don't know if I'm lucky or gritty or resilient or whatever, but you want to be financially literate. Now, what I would do with my money, okay, is the first thing I would do is put it with a wealth manager. Okay. And they'll give you 5% in a special account, right? Something like that. Now that's not a lot of money, but think about it.
Let's say you have a million dollars and you're making 5%. Okay, that is 50,000 bucks a year. And you're like, wait a minute, 5%, that's nothing. Excellent. However, you have to put your money away somewhere. Okay, that's generating interest until you know what to do with it. What would I do with it? I would start dollar cost averaging.
That means put in a small amount of money every single month into index funds. So it would follow the NASDAQ and the S&P 500 and the Dow Dow. Okay. And these three different exchanges, when you put it in over time, now you're going to probably get like 11% over time. Yeah. But it compounds on itself. It compounds on itself. You got a phone? Yeah. Open the phone. Okay.
It's called compounding interest. Right? And all that means is my money's working for me. I ain't working for it. Okay? And you leave it there. And you leave it there over time. This is money that you're putting aside. And if you're working, you're putting aside whatever you can afford. Now, it has to be at least 10%. Okay? If you make...
10 grand a month and you only need five uh five grand a month to survive okay you gotta put away 10% and save the rest for a rainy day taxes whatever okay but you have to put that money aside if you only need three grand a month okay then you have to put the rest away okay because you only want to spend what you need right okay this is so exciting Are you excited?
Hey, buddy. Add 10 years to that for a total of 40.
Whatever. This is the way elegant men live. And you, sir, are an elegant man. I don't give a shit what fighting or how many violent exchanges you had. That's just part of what got you to right here, right now. And the only thing in life that matters is right here, right now. Because when you get to there and then, it's right here and right now, isn't it?
Off a million bucks and never putting in another dollar. Go find, go bust your, put a million dollars in dollar cost average on those three things. Every month you put in more money. Okay? And just forget about it. Because this is history. This is the history of our country. It ain't changing. Okay? That's what you want, big boy.
We definitely gonna... Now, what you want to do is you want to start working all the time. Putting as much money away as you can because time matters. You saw the difference between 20 and 30 years. It was $43 million. Now, your first 30 was only 22. How the hell for another 10 do you get three times? Well, the way you do it is it's the magic of compounding interest.
So what you want to do is you want to If you've got 50 grand now, put the 50 grand in now and then just keep doing it over time. Because if you wait till you have a million bucks, it doesn't work. But just know that if it takes you three years to put aside a million dollars, just know that the clock starts ticking. Now the clock starts really ticking. And the good meaning, the 40 years starts.
You're 24, okay? And you said that you wanted to leave something to your children, did you not? Yeah. Or was that the last episode? I mean... Okay. All I'm saying is you want to. You want to leave something to your children. And after you do that, I'll talk to you about generational skipping trusts. So that way...
Your child doesn't have to pay into exorbitant taxes and your grandchildren will have the money. And now all this bull stopped with you and you've got a new history to give to your family and leave behind. Because the only thing in the life, in our lives that matters, parents is making certain that our children are okay in the world when we're gone. and leaving this place better than we found it.
So this was four or five years ago. Yeah. And you were 19. This must have just destroyed you.
That's it. No violence. It's not necessary unless someone breaks in your house.
I'm so much handsomer when people aren't wearing their glasses.
That's exactly why I do this. Because you saw somebody you admired and you did that.
But you're doing the same thing here. See, you're talking about your experience with drugs and how that doesn't serve you, how it's keeping you from being your best self, your highest self. And just like you were influenced by your buddy, These kids that listen to you are influenced by you.
But yeah. Therapy done right is messy.
So I don't know if you understand this, but there are kids out there because they're not viewing this for me. Nobody's viewing. Nobody's viewing this for me. They're here for you. Okay. And some of these kids are going to be like, you know what? That's cool. I'm not going to do that. Right.
Yeah. Some people know. Thank you for that. I was very kind.
Five, yeah. Five. Dude, you can't let your kids see you doing this. Nah, of course not. Let me tell you something, okay? This is a rule I learned not long ago. I mean, I'm slow, okay, but I get there. And I've been told for years this statement, and I blew it off. If there are people in your life that do not add value to your life, get rid of them. and truer words were never spoken.
You want to go into treatment today?
If you're with people hanging out with people that don't add value to your life, cut them loose. The end.
No, he was on Trank. Yeah. That's the zombie drug, okay? What happens is they have this... And by the way, it's not animal tranquilizer. Let's just get that clear. It's not there to tranquilize the elephant. It's there to put the elephant down. It's meant to kill elephants, okay? That's what your grandfather was using. A drug meant to kill an elephant. Damn. Yeah, people don't understand that.
Now, let me explain something to you. They take fentanyl and they take this elephant tranquilizer, which is why they call it trank, and they shoot it. And then they lean over like that with rigid arms and they're just like their knuckles are dragging on the ground. And then it's a flesh eating drug because the other wasn't fun enough. So there's more.
And you get these holes in your arms or in your legs, like big, like a baseball.
And then what they do is they take it and they shoot it in that. And you can see the bone. And Narcan doesn't work on it. It doesn't work on it. Okay. That's why it didn't work. Okay. And he's lucky to be alive. He's beyond lucky to be alive. Yeah. At the time. But you know what the sad part about it is? Yeah. He woke up and he wanted to do another hit immediately. Do you know why?
Because what feels the best is getting as close to dead as humanly possible without dying. How scary is that? that's what feels the best. So he, he was as close to dying as humanly possible. Woke up that feel the best, like, okay, time for another. And everybody else in the room is like white and like this and just freaked out. And he's fine.
Cause you know, it's like, you know, when somebody walks into a room, lights the match and walks out and then everybody's like, that's what happens. He's fine. He left the room. Okay? Everybody else that's witnessing this is traumatized. He has no recollection of that. None.
Does your mother and your grandmother talk all the time?
Does your kids have a relationship with your mother?
She didn't abort you and she didn't leave you in a trash can.
She looked at your mother, at your grandmother and said, I'm 15. You're my mother. I don't know what to do. And she gave her to your mother, to your grandmother. She did the best she could. She was 15.
She couldn't, I mean, the chance of her doing that would be zero. Okay? I mean, no chance. A 15-year-old doesn't know how to take care of a child. It just, that's the way it is.
Hey, babe. Thanks for coming.
You are the best time ever. These days, man. You really are. Okay. Where can people reach you? Where can people find you?
Last question. What's your favorite song that you've done ever?
And one that did the best. The one that you personally love that also did very, very well.
Which one do you want us to play on the outro of this episode? Or is there one that you're pumping? A new one that you're going to pump. That's probably the way to go.
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Well, let me ask you a question about the violence. Okay, because I just want to be clear. He taught you to be violent. Did he teach you to be violent, or did he teach you how to survive the community?
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But bro, you don't have, you don't display any of that. You're like gentle and kind and I don't see it.
Xan, man. Nice to meet you. We have been trying to get you on for a while. Okay? You are on our wish list. Okay? I thought you were Little Xan. I thought Little Xan was Xan Man. But it doesn't matter anymore because I've got both the Xans. And if there's another Xan Dylan, I want that Xan too. Okay, I want all the zans. All the zans. All the zans. So, man, tell me about your upbringing.
It was, when I tell you, it was something so dumb. No, that was beautiful what you did. So tell me, you just made something beautiful. You said, no, they didn't deserve it. Yeah, they didn't. So what was it? You were, you were. All right. Tell me the story. Hold on a second. You've already done the time for it, right? Yeah. Okay. Now you can tell me.
And because you were a rapper, you got along there because they dug what you did.
Yeah. So let's talk about that. You doing well right now? I hear you're one of the biggest deals there is.
What are you doing with your money? I don't see any ice around your neck, so that's a good sign.
Now, if you ever wanted to know the moment I fell in love with you, it was now. Okay. So, so, so where's the home that you bought?
Tell me where it all started. Tell the viewers the story.
Yeah, for sure. For sure. Have you ever been so messed up that your eyes popped out accidentally? Never.
Where are they getting it? Are they getting it from physicians? Are they getting it on the street?
Does it? Yeah. I mean, if you create that pressure and get in the bloodstream faster. Yeah. And that was a ride of lifetime.
I feel like I went on a trip listening to that story. Yeah, tell me to do acid again after that. So you said you were 13 when you smoked weed, and then when did it lead to other stuff?
Is that bad or good? That's great. That's cool. I love her to see me in my element. Yeah, I'm sure she is. So the question was, what... Like what age and what led next from just doing weed at your 13th birthday?
That's a long time from when you first smoked weed at 13. That's four years.
No, chicks are the gateway drug.
Yeah, I got a son, man. That's a dope name for a kid. That is a good name. Yeah. Julius. Julius.
And do you know anyone that's overdosed?
So 17, 24, how long does that last?
So you're 19, done with her. Where are you at drug use wise by that time?
Did you, was, at what point in your life were you thinking to yourself, like, this is a problem? Like my use is a problem. Or did you never think that?
Yeah, but you've never been to rehab and you've never been to AA.
It's interesting. You know, the idea like I've used drugs, but I'm not an addict, like somebody who treats addicts and is around addicts all day. They do not possess that power. Once they are hooked, they are hooked. Right. There is no, because I know me, like I'm not an addict. I can have one beer and that's it. I'm not sitting there thinking I need five or six or 10 or 12.
And I'm just not an addict. I could smoke one cigarette and that would be it. Right. But it is addictive. It is, people are powerless. You know, bro, you're a serious guy. Do you ever feel like people may not see you as the serious man that you are because of the iPod thing?
Good. Will you pray for me tonight, please?
I just lost my mother and father in 14 days. Oh, man. I'm not going to tap my face, but maybe I'll. Condolences, man. That is a great story. That is a recognition of self and worth, right? Yeah. Like, I'm doing this. They're keeping me down. They're keeping me down. I'm going to do my own thing. I'm going to do my own thing. And that's what I did. That's the American dream.
It is the American dream. And everybody has it in them. That is the best story about the use of YouTube that I've ever heard. That is cool. The internet, the internet to change a life. Yeah. If you utilize it the right way, I can't stop watching them. I want Kenny on from now on. I think he said, yeah, everybody good story in the comment section. Let us know if you want,
said from 17 years old to 33 bro you know just living in the valley is enough living in the valley is enough to get you doing drugs yeah i mean it's it's you don't know what it's like growing up in the valley man i grew up right next to him in encino okay it is the karens in the valley are just non-stop All the people who are pissed, they don't live in the city. That's essentially what it is.
kenny here out every week and don't anybody say i suck and he's better than me because i already know that all right um all right let's uh what what what do you want to talk about what do you want to plug what are you doing i want to support you in anything you're doing uh definitely tune in to all the great uh
So is there a song that you own, not that you had on a label, not that somebody else wrote or has any ownership in at all? Is there a song that you have that you'd like us to play for you on the outro?
That's so good. It's scary. What's scary? It scares me. I don't know why. I'm glad it scares you. I have you here. I got it. I'm the straight man. I'm glad it scares you, man. It's so nice to meet you. Thank you. Thank you for having me. You're the best, bro.
Mm-hmm. Yeah. Oh, and it feels like the center of the sun in the summer. Yeah. Like I literally, you get out of the car and you want to cry. That's how bad it is. Right. Right. Right? Right. I can agree with that. Dude, I got so spoiled being here in Santa Monica and in Malibu. Oh, man. Like you come from the city. Mm-hmm. There you go broke here because they come here for this.
This weather is people. They come in just for the weather, just for the weather, just for the weather. That's right. So you have like in this day and age as an adult making music and out there and you have a friend who's buying, say he thinks he's getting a perk on the street. Is there any feeling of like this could kill me? It could have fentanyl in it.
I might get it might be laced and I could die.
If you're doing the perks or any opioids at all for longer than five to seven days, it's got you. You don't have it. Right. There's no more. You don't have a choice anymore. Right. And you have to probably get medical help. Absolutely. So let me ask you a question. Do you know any friends? You have friends who have died of fentanyl. Yes. Okay.
Just speak about one of them, about what it did to their parents or their family structure, because it destroys families. Yeah. It completely destroys. So I want to hear a little bit about something, if you know, about the pain it caused the people left behind.
Chef, thanks for coming by, man. I really appreciate it. Thank you for having me. Thanks, bro. So let's get right to it. You're in the rap scene, the underground rap scene. You got a lot of friends. You guys are doing that whole thing, right? Yeah, I'm a rapper. I'm in the industry. Okay. You see a lot of drugs, press books.
Okay. Um, you know, anybody who's suffering, uh, You send them over here. We'll find a spot for him. My treatment center, Carrera, is the finest treatment facility in the world. We're not getting anybody from the podcast. This is about just talking about drugs and the evils of fentanyl and how it's putting all of our children and our loved ones in harm's way. So that's all this is.
Come on, man. Hey, God, can you fix that? That's exothalamus. What does that mean?
It took a long time to learn how to do that. That figure will make your eyes pop out, though.
Listen, all seriousness, nobody can go to Carrera. I mean, we've got 18 beds. They're full. There's a wait list. It's always full. It's always a wait list. But there's 18. It's never going to be more than 18. We've got affordable centers that people can go for like 250 or $500 for a deductible and do that. But some people don't even have that insurance. Right. And that's what I'm saying.
We've got this place called One Call Placement where you can call. Right? We don't get anything out of it. All we do is we find a spot for these people to get well, because if we can't help them and, you know, maybe we can help maybe 20% maybe of the people that call, the other 80% have to be referred out, you know? Yeah. We don't ever want anybody to feel like they don't have the money. Right.
Okay? Because $165,000 is a lot of money. That's a Porsche GT RS, twin turbo. Is it? Yeah. Yeah. Hell yeah, it is. But it wouldn't bring your kid back if your kid died of a fentanyl overdose, right? It wouldn't bring your kid back. I have friends of mine who, like you, remain nameless, made a ton of money, hundreds of million dollars in investment banking. And...
Sadly, my friend passed away, and then their son just decided on a whim that he was going to try a perk that was laced with fentanyl, and he died. Yeah. If they had had Narcan there, this is a year ago. Now, if you said to them, $165,000 a month, we'll take your kid and get him clean, Don't think for one second they would have done it knowing what the outcome might have been, right?
I mean, no amount of money brings your child back. A lot of people don't know though, bro. A lot of people don't, they don't play through. They don't think it's going to happen to them and they don't want to part with the money. It's fine. Yeah, that's Steve, man. That's it. But they don't have to. That's the point. They don't have to because there's all these different levels of care.
You don't have to pop for 165 clicks. Right. You know, if you've got a kid. Right. Okay. You know, that's for your wife. It's for you. Yeah. Okay. That's for your kid if you like them. Right? I mean, it's not for everybody, but everyone's got a place to go. And we got a list of everywhere we can send people because it's so hard, right? If you're calling on drugs, right?
And you've got that moment of clarity, you've just called 10 places and gotten jerked around. You don't want to get sober anymore. Right. You want to get loaded because this is- Right. It's most crazy. Yeah. You know what I mean? Anyway, I want to ask you a couple of questions. Did drugs or alcohol ever play a role in your life? Yes. Tell me about it. Oh. The most recent?
I saw the woman you're going to marry.
That's the Kickstarter. Go. You go. It's a main one. If you had to say like, this is what most people are doing.
Yeah, for sure. Did it kill anybody? But I want to hear. So you said that because of that.
Okay, but hold on a second. Let's see if he knows why. Why? Why did marijuana open? Yeah, why is the marijuana the gateway drug for you?
Okay. It's very social. Let me ask you a question. Did you get high enough on the marijuana?
That's the answer right there is the escape. That's actually a rabbi. who said that drug alcohol use is rooted in someone's uncomfortableness in self and whatever that's related to, be it trauma or, You know, family dynamics, whatever it is. Can you look back and say, like, I was escaping from a. Oh, yeah, for sure.
One, what was the that that caused you to use to escape from? Is it anything you can talk about? Can you answer it with your eyes out? No, no. Yeah. That scared me. You know, you're running out the door. Don't do it again.
as part of your um well that's what you would give a lot of credit to the way you feel and walk through life right now with it i don't see you struggling through life is what i'm trying to say i see you colliding through life based on the work and the maintenance that you do all the time i wish i could say that it was gliding um
Before we get to the step work, tell me about the benefits.
Well, thank you. Yeah, it's good to be here or anywhere for that matter. Let me ask you a question, man. You were such a massive success. One of the biggest voices in America. How did drugs and alcohol fit into that? And were you using while you were working or was it just an off the clock thing?
Yeah. Everybody just got a doctorate on what it's like to be really self-care. That's what that is.
The public sees them as horrifying. But when we sit in a room in AA and we're listening to this, we're hysterical.
Life is good. I always tell that to people. I always say, and everybody does, but it's the truth. If it was a better deal to get loaded, then I would be loaded. You know, in AA, we both love AA. I love AA. But I haven't been in 20 years. I haven't been. I said something the other day in a room full of doctors and psychologists.
They were saying something, I don't remember what they were talking about, but I said, look, unless you can give someone a life that is better or more valuable than the life they had when they came into treatment, they can't stay sober forever. The end. Yeah. And, you know, a lot of those people were in AA and they didn't like what I had to say.
And they didn't like what I had to say because it wasn't one of the things that they've heard over the last 30 years in a room from a podium or from the shares. And I was like thinking to myself, man, The problem with alcoholics is that everyone who's sober thinks they're an expert on alcoholism and recovery, and they're not. They're only an expert on their own recovery.
I learned. And it was intuitive. I learned the difference between AA and treatment before I got into treatment was when you walked into treatment, it was tough love. And when you walked into AA, whether they knew it or not, it was all love. Right? Because you walk into AA, it is the worst day of your life. No question. In that moment, you're a loser and your life came to this. Right.
And you are full of nothing but shame. Yeah. And intuitively, these guys just knew, come on, get over here. Shh. you're going to be fine. I promise. And that's what I took from AA into our place because these people are so shame-based coming in that to kick a horse when they're down makes absolutely no sense to me at all. None. Love is everything.
And I got that from AA because when I walked into AA, Nobody wanted me around. I was such an asshole when I got to AA because my model was so bad. I didn't have any friends. I had to make you feel bad in order to make me feel good. Polar opposite of what they teach us in the AA community. And one guy walked up to me and he said, hey, baby. I said, yeah.
He said, you don't need to make that guy feel bad and make yourself feel good. You're perfect just the way you are. Come here. Gave me a hug, handed me a Cuban cigar. We smoked, bought me dinner because I didn't have, so poor I couldn't pay attention, right? A is the best thing that ever happened to me because I've got two children that I'm in love with, thank God, right?
What would you say to parents today that have children that are using with the dangers on the street right now.
Yeah. I tell people to seek treatment right away. I don't care where they get it. If they're younger and it's just started, I tell them to get a therapist right away. Okay. Once a week for their kid and once a week for their kid with the parent that they're most aligned with. Okay. Yeah, man, I'm scared. I'm scared. It's different now.
You know, 15 years ago, you're having a conversation with me about this. I don't really care. You know, and I owned Cliffside because I didn't have a child yet. Second, you have a child, you know what love is, right? You don't know what love is before you have a child. You think you do, but you don't really know. Right?
Do you have anything you want to say?
That's such a great thing. I wish you nothing but the best and I can't wait till it comes out.
The only person I've ever known who got fatter while on cocaine was Sarge.
Everyone, I wanted to introduce you to somebody who I saw in probably one of my first AA meetings ever. Shadow Stevens, the legend, the voice of television and radio. When I was younger and just an absolute icon, man, like most beautiful voice, most talented man. Please stop, stop, stop. No more, no more, please.
You know, it's like... Dude, he should do a commercial for something for us. Like, seriously, he's a genius. So go on. You don't understand what these commercials were like. I mean, at a time where, you know, you'd have my dad doing commercials, 993-9999, right? Custom craft carpets. And then the next on television would be this guy, Cal Worthington, and his dog, Spawn. So, and then federated.
So those are the three commercials that you would see all the time.
Socket circus. Well, this is obviously a case of artificial intelligence misdrive.
I was telling you before this, you started talking to me and the only thing I could think of, I couldn't hear what you were saying. And the only thing I could think was, oh my God, he's got such a beautiful voice. And that is cute. So you kind of like a pretty girl, right? Like she can be as smart, as sharp as a tack, right? And you just can't hear her. So it's kind of like that. Sucks for you.
Are you doing it?
I think that this is the most beautiful thing because I tell people all the time, one of the most important things that you need to know in your life is you need to be financially literate. Okay, that's a must. And they don't teach you in school. Will you look into that camera and tell the people what class you took, what it's called, so that our viewers can go there? No, I don't own it.
Okay, I don't even know anything about this. Don't make this about me. So Next Level Boys Program, shout out Coach Davis.
That's right.
That's right.
You want to go to the business side of it now? Yeah. I mean, can I just touch on the health real quick? Yeah. Okay. Taking care of your health is about self-love. Now, I'm still working on my self-love, hand to God. I don't love myself the way I should. I do not.
And you know what's great about that? It's a process, right? How old are your kids? I got two four-year-olds and I got a seven-year-old. That's fantastic. So the way I look at it, because... None of us are exactly where we want to be, right? I don't care who you are. You want to be somewhere. You want to grow. You want to thrive. You want to be better, right? And the greatest part about that is
You only have to be one step ahead of your children, right? So I don't know everything, and I still have to learn a lot of stuff to pass down to my boy and my daughter, right? I mean, I have to, right? You only need to be one step ahead of your children, and I'm the same way. I have so much more to learn, but you know what? My kids are getting smarter. And they're rapidly catching up to me.
I mean, very quickly. For sure. But right now I got a little time. So I always stay one step ahead of the kids. And if they ever ask me something and I don't know, well, yeah. And if I don't know, I say, you know what, guys? That's a great question. Let me think about that. And I'll get right back to you, okay?
Yeah. Progress. Right. It's you're clear. You're more motivated. Right. Because here's the thing. When guys come on this show, I never tell them not to drink or do drugs. I don't. I tell them to buy their weed at a dispensary, and I tell them to get their pills at a pharmacy from a doctor. Because... Phenolautama. Yeah. That's right. They're dying. They're all dying. That's exactly right. And...
By the time you're my age, you will have achieved all your goals. And your last goal will be just to make certain that what you already did sticks.
This guy who's here just recently, great guy, fantastic guy. His name is Jimmy Shin. And he said something, I hope I get this right, Dylan. He said...
I'm a father. We're fathers, right? Which is why I assume you came on this thing because you've got young children and you want to bring awareness to the fentanyl issue because we're parents and we're scared to death. I just want to make certain. That I leave this place better than I found it. Right? Right. And that my children are okay in the world when I'm gone. When you're gone. All right?
And that's really important to me. Those are the only two things that in from a 30,000 foot view that I care about. And maybe that's because I'm 58 and I've already had my shit. and my home, and my car, and, you know, whatever, right? I've already had that. But, bro, you feel it whether you know it or not, because you didn't walk in here all iced up.
You're a father, so what happened was, is intuitively you know that's important. This isn't. The children are important. This isn't. The woman I love, she's important. This is it. Okay. Now, it's easy for me to say, okay, because everyone's listening. Oh, it's easy for you to say, right? Okay.
It is easy for me to say, okay, because I've done a lot of living and I've worked around the clock for, I don't know, two decades, closer to three. I mean, I do not leave the house. That's why the office is next to the house. Right? Yeah. I mean, people work all day long out of that. This is an office and I just live upstairs. That's how I do it. Okay. So I worked for that. I earned that.
I made mistake after mistake after mistake, got back up, dust myself off, and went and took the next right action after the next right action after the next right action. That's it. You know, Cook Saban. Do you know who Cook Saban is? Nick Saban? No. You don't watch college football. Okay. So Nick Saban is the best college football coach of all time. It's not close.
It's like Michael Jordan and everybody else. It's just not close. The best. And- He said something that has always stuck with me because I'm always saying reps, reps, reps, over, over, do it again, do it again. He made a statement that was so genius. He said, you don't keep doing something over and over until you get it right. You keep doing it over and over again until you can't get it wrong.
You know the culture, right? It's all weed. It's all booze. It's all music. It's all women. It's like, right? I mean, this is what it's about, right? Most definitely. Okay. I mean, that's how it would have been if I was a kid.
That's like a spiritual experience, right? Yeah, sure. And that ain't about football, dude.
You know, it's funny. You asked me, you asked me why I'm doing this, why I did this podcast, right? And I told you it was just to bring fentanyl awareness and save kids. And, you know, we've got kids and we've got to do it. Listen, let's move on to... To the fentanyl thing. Okay. Have you ever tried fentanyl?
right so yeah man thank you so much for saying that i really appreciate it um gotta be said so how do you feel uh now as opposed to uh being loaded all the time do you get more done do you are you happier do you have a joy of living like what is it so personally i i get way more done like just
overdose okay because you know it wasn't it wasn't fatal but it wasn't fatal but your current seven-year-old was two two and a half during that period does he have any recollection of that overdose i don't remember thank god he went straight to sleep like he ate the pasta i got he ate the pasta and i looked over into that and i was like thank god he's just
Thank God. All right. And the other ones are four, so they'd never even seen you loaded. Let's get to this other thing. I want to talk to you about your arrest. Are you okay with that? A little bit, yeah. Okay. Because I'm impressed. Let me tell you why I want to talk about it. Normally, I would.
But the reason I want to talk about it is, you know, I own the finest drug and alcohol treatment facility in the world. It's for... Anyone and everyone who absolutely has to have the finest of everything, especially under like the horrific hard conditions of, you know, stopping using. Wood draws and all that. Yeah. I mean, and they held that life valuable.
That was like their medicine, you know, everything to them, everything. And so, you know, that's a scary thing. So you have to be in the right place. The reason I want to ask you about this is because I'm impressed doing what I do for a living to have a guy who got in trouble with the law and hasn't done drugs in five years.
Okay. Hey, guess what? What you're doing is beyond magnificent because you did all that stuff up until two years ago. And the last two years, you've been on the straight and narrow. You've been-
Or you can just, better yet, you can just say, I'm not going to do this today. And then you're like... Four o'clock. It's like, you know, it's like, right? And it's like, I always tell people, if you're having problems, stop drinking for 30 days.
She's a model. Does she get paid for money? Yeah, she gets paid a good amount. And she gets paid for doing the content. Yeah. All right, good. Well, then she is working. She just works for herself. Right, she works for herself. But I'm just saying not like a nine to five, like not a traditional job. Who works nine to five anymore? I don't know. I don't even know if that works.
Is that even a thing anymore? No.
I don't know.
I feel like she's going to die. All right. Well, let's get back to her in a minute. Do you want, do you want help for her? Definitely. Does she want help? I was going to ask you like, you know, really? Yeah. I, that'd be a huge favor to me. Really? Yes. Okay. What's your name? I don't want to like be, you know what I'm saying? So you want me to talk to your girlfriend after the, after the podcast?
Yeah. And I'll try to get her into treatment.
We'll figure something out for her. Don't worry about it. Listen, if I can't help her, I can find a place that will. So don't worry about it. I'll figure it out for you before you leave here. Okay? So the reason I want to talk about this is because You're doing great. You're what the judicial system is actually hoping for. You went in, you got on probation. Right. Okay.
You haven't been in trouble in what? How long? Five years? Yeah. I haven't been in serious trouble. I haven't caught a new felony. Good. So you're good for five years. Okay. Not five years. It's been five years.
It's been five. Made a career for myself. Yeah, it's been five years. Okay. So it's been five years. Two years sober. So not in trouble for five. Sober for two. And you've got another five. Okay. On probation. And I just think that's fantastic. And I think that's something that you should be really, really proud of, like extremely proud of.
Do you ever call them and make a repair and tell them?
like conspiracy of a murder you know it's like conspiracy let me just stop scaring everybody okay you didn't you it wasn't conspiracy to commit murder somebody somebody somebody burglarized somebody burglarized and died and allegedly you were i was a part of the conspiracy You know what I'm saying? Well, you didn't plan the burglary, did you? No. Did you plan in any way, shape, or form?
I had nothing to do with this. Right. But you were with the boys.
My point is, though, you weren't there. Right. Okay? But you were with the guys. That they said was there. And then you got 10 years probation. Right. Because the judge...
Good. Gillen, grab me a pen and a pad of paper, will you please? Because this man just said the magic words. You said goals. Yeah. Uh-huh. Want to talk about your goals?
Yeah. Where is she? Fulton County. Of course. Flint County, Georgia? Yeah. That woman is a blessing. You should send her a dozen roses to her courtroom every year on your anniversary and then walk in with the roses on the 10th year. It's a 30-line probation and you're the greatest woman alive. Yeah, you're right. I might do that. Absolutely, dude. Sure.
Well, life's tough enough, okay? Right. So we don't need to go to jail to toughen up. Right now. Yeah. Right? Life brings its own baggage. So... You're never going to see the inside of a jail cell yet. Never. Because you don't live that way. And as long as you don't live in a way that is putting you in harm's way, then you don't ever have to go to jail again. And then we can get back to this.
These goals. Okay? Because that's what I want to do here. And I want to knock these out real quick. Okay? Okay. You got your business goals and your personal goals, okay? You said you wanted a business. But before we get into that, what I want to know is, how often are you making music? So I make music like every day, every other day. How often are you in the studio? Every day, every other day.
Okay. But you, I don't understand how the business works. So I apologize, but.
Listen, I don't even know where to go with this because most guys that come in here tell me, I want a yacht. I want a jet. I want, you know, yada, yada, yada. I want a mansion. I want this. And you're like, man, I want a home to put my family in. I mean, you're so right-sized, right? It's ridiculous.
You've got money and talent and discipline and a good soul. Most definitely. You can't lose. No, no, no. You cannot lose. It would be impossible for you to lose. If you are making music every day and you drop that... Intentionally. Okay. You collab and do a couple tunes with, I would do tunes with your 10 best friends here that are big shots just like you. What's our cat coming on Monday again?
Landed. Landed? Yeah. Landed Cube. I'd call him, I'd call Dex, I'd call Lil Xan, I'd call all of them and say, hey, let's meet me at the thing and let's knock this out. You do one for them, they'll do one for you, and you're done.
Then ask them. Make yourself a wish list. Just... but I put off till tomorrow what you can do today. Make a wish list. It's only yours. Some people own those on it? Yeah, but shoot for the stars. Travis. This is a stream of consciousness exercise. You're just writing this stud, that stud, Jay-Z, Eminem, Andre 3000, Run DMC. What's important is if you can come up with these mashups, Right.
And you're back. I'm back. That's the day. Right. Okay. And, and the, and the story of the album is you're with, you're doing these nothing but duos or collabs with other artists or mashups on your own with other artists. Right. And so it's like, I'm back. With my friends. Isn't that hard? Yeah, it's the hardest idea. Yeah, well, that's okay because that's the only one I've got. That's it.
That's all I got. Dude, I swear to God, I tried to be so hopeful. You know? The listeners are probably like, again? No, you're right, bro. Moron. Yeah. All right. So I want to touch on the Sentinel thing real quick, okay? And then we're going to... All right.
So these kids' parents will never be the same. Never. Never. You gotta stop. This is it. Just stop. Think about it for a second, though. Let's... You've got a seven-year-old and twin four-year-olds. Can you imagine what, you can't even imagine if something happened to them. I mean, you'd be dead.
Dude, if something happened to your kids, you'd be on drugs in five minutes. five minutes and I wouldn't even be here. Okay. It's, it is the most unnatural thing in the world for people to die before their kids, for their kids to die before them. Absolutely. It's just, it's not, that's not the way it's supposed to be. And yeah, this is why we do this podcast. I don't monetize this thing.
This is never going to, we are never going to have a commercial here. I'm never going to. Sponsored by Kiss My, okay? No chance ever, okay? This is a pure thing. It is a pure thing. And, you know, at the end, you know, I got my buddy Jason who gives this little talk and he says, look, if anybody ever needs help, call us. We'll take care of you, okay?
And that doesn't mean, oh, come to my center, okay? Okay, man, one in 500,000 people can come to my center. I ain't getting any business from this podcast to come to Carrera. You go to Carrera, it's $165,000 a month. Nobody's going to Carrera off this podcast. Okay.
The people who are going to call me off this podcast need help and they can either go to my affordable care center, which doesn't have a lot of beds right now. Okay. Or if I can't help them, I'll find them a spot. I find every, we find people treatment who call us every single day just for fun and for free so that no one ever feels like nowhere to go.
No, that they're not important because they didn't have the money because that's just not how I'm going to ever operate in the world. Yeah. Right? So, I mean, this is just, just for this purpose, for people like you, for a guy like me, okay, who knows this. To talk to a guy like you who everybody loves and every kid. Dude, my daughter's 15. People in her school know who you are.
They knew who little Zan was. They knew who famous Dex was. They were like, whoa. You guys make a difference in every community because everybody listens to your music. The kids love it. Right. Yeah. How good is that? Yeah, it was great. That's so good. You helped so many people here today. For sure. Now, we're going to end, okay? And then you and I are going to go help your old lady, okay?
I shall. All right. So where can people reach you, buddy?
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Two things. Number one, you said I break my goals into two buckets. One is personal and one is business. And then you went to personal first before business. And so you know it's important. And then the first goal was for your family and not for you. So if you ever want to know the moment that I started loving the shit out of you, that was it. Like, man, that was beautiful. For sure.
Dude, I almost started crying like a little. I'm not kidding. It was that beautiful. That's the way it got to be. Yeah.
Young Bands. Yeah. How you doing, man? Doing good, man. Thanks for coming. Sure. Thanks for having me. Thanks for having me. You're the only guy who's walked in here from the underground rap scene that hasn't walked in smoking a joint. Yeah. You're the only one. Sure. And then somebody here offered you to smoke and you said no. Yeah. Why? Probation, can't smoke, so.
You know? Yeah. No, it's better. Listen, especially in times that we're living in now, right? With all this income disparity where people have a ton and then other people have nothing. Okay. You don't want to give anybody an excuse to take your life or take something from. Yeah. Because, you know, I mean, you give it right to them. Hell yeah. Okay?
And so would I. But, you know, they're having a bad day. They might just do it. And they don't want to have a conversation. They just want to move fast. Bang. And they're gone. I mean, over what?
Lost your life because you were a dumbass and you wore your shit out in a place where it wasn't safe. That's all. So that's good. Okay. I mean, there's nothing better than giving back. Okay. And thank you for coming, man, because you're a big shot. People love you. They just lose it for you. Yeah. They do. Dylan, didn't he do a music video with somebody who's coming in the next couple of days?
Yes. Landon Cube. Do you know Landon Cube? Yeah, I know Landon. Shout out Landon. Yeah. So Landon's coming next week, Dylan?
Oh, March 30th is coming Monday. So that's cool. I heard you guys did music together. One of my biggest songs. You know, my biggest song. Oh, then hold on. Let's put that. Let's go straight to the business balls. You want to do another song with him? Yeah. Hell yeah. Always down to work. What? Always down to work. Yeah, let's work that out, Dylan. Remind me.
Because I think that's good for both of them. They're both star players, right? I mean, who doesn't want, I mean, right? Yeah. And you guys go and you do that. And because you're giving to each other, you both rise, right?
Don't you think, Dylan? Oh, I love that.
Listen, I don't know if that works for you, but I think it would be cool. You guys are friends, right? Yeah. How long does it take to knock out a song in the studio?
If you didn't take your time on it, 45 minutes to an hour? Yeah. How about if you're just being lazy?
Okay, good. If you guys want to do that, I'll give you the 500 bucks for the studio time. If you guys want to do that. Okay. Because I think that would be so good for you. And good for him because you're both starter players and you haven't done this in a long time. And it's... I haven't done what? You haven't did a song together for a long time. That's true. Right? And when was it?
What year was it? I don't know, maybe 18.
Right. That's the net. Landing cool. Landing cool. Right. I think that's cool. All right. So let's get back to personal. Okay. So you've got a home for your family. Okay. So they always have a place to go, which is the most, it's not just beautiful. It's heartbreaking.
How long have you been on probation? For like five years. How much longer you got? Five more, five more to go. Really? Yeah. And you're not smoking or drinking or anything right now? Nothing, like nothing at all.
Yeah.
Right. Because I know where it's coming from. So what a beautiful soul, dude. Your parents alive? For sure. And call your parents right when you get done with this. They did so good with you. All right. Next personal goal.
You know what I'm saying? Good. So I'm going to recommend something for you where you can literally listen to a book, a large book in 15 minutes and get all the key points out of every single book you have. Where it's good for you? Summarize like, I like it. Yeah. I don't do it as much as I should, but there were periods in my life where I did it every day for years. Taught you a lot.
There's nothing, listen, there's nothing more important than continuing to grow and learn nothing. We're not going to be, you're not the same guy today that you're going to be in 20 years. I can prove it to you. Are you the same guy today that you were at 15? Not even close, right? Not even close, no. Okay. I mean, when you get to be 45 and 55, you're different. You get mature and you...
And you get more right sized about everything. And there are no real big deals unless it has to do with your family. Or health. Or livelihood. Right. But, you know, if it doesn't kill you, it makes you stronger. Sure. Right. All right. So we got your health. Are you exercising at all? A little bit.
So you want, what song do you want to play on the outro here? We'll play one of your songs on the outro after the deal. Let's play Straight Cash. Straight Cash?
Maybe a heart. That's awesome. So you want to pass down your assets. And what you're saying is you held on to your music.
But no, but no drugs at all? No drugs. Pills, powders, nothing.
Let me write this down because I want to be able to give you something. You got kids? Yeah, three. Did you know you can give $19,000 to each one of them? As a gift. Tax free.
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Oh, he is?
I know it's funny. Right. No, that is so my fault. That is so my fault. I stand corrected. Keep it in though.
You do Xanies?
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Wow.
Wow.
What the hell?
Whew.
Dude, this is too easy.
I'll see you next Tuesday.
100%?
I love that.
But your buddy, they try to whack you? Hell yeah, they try to charge me too much because they know who I am. Oh, that, like, uh-uh. Especially the Mundrian and all these, yeah, yeah. Right. I love you, Ado.
Do you know anyone who's died of fentanyl?
Yeah, I can't hear this shit. It's too much for me. So you've got a lot of followers on Instagram, right? Yeah, like 4 million. 4 million. Okay. So that's legit famous. Yeah, yeah. Especially in your little thing.
What size stadium? How many people could, if you put on social media right now, hey, I'm playing at this thing. It's free. Come out tomorrow night. How many people would show up?
That's magnificent.
Was there, did these fans or anybody on social media have any impact on your decision to get sober?
Have you ever been afraid that maybe being so open about, um, your drug addiction and your recovery, that maybe that's going to, that you're going to be identified with that more than your music?
Yes. About the hot Cheetos.
Yeah. Let me ask you a question though. Yeah. How many Xannies were you on that day? Oh, probably 10. Okay. Yeah. Probably 10. Maybe. Yeah. It was a Xanny thing.
But, you know, only. They're the normies. Yeah.
Taking the Xanny bars.
Okay. Okay. This is sacrilegious.
I don't even have the words. In my age group, there's really only two rappers. Only two. Tupac and Biggie. Legends. And then it goes to Andre 3000 came out. Yeah, I love Andre. He was dope. First guys I ever listened to was Run DMC.
Yeah. what did you say about... Oh, the Tupac. Yeah. You said he was boring. Oh, I might've said he was boring. But you understand that when you hear this man's voice.
Like his voice is so cool. Yeah. When he started singing, chicks just dropped their pants.
Thank you. Because it's important to know the room.
You ever get depressed or anxious?
Yeah. Okay. Sometimes I get depressed and I get anxious. Yeah. And I know how I get through that. Okay. The way I get through it is when I get scared, I run right through it. I mean, I don't walk through it. I don't lean into it. I just run right through it because... I don't ever want to feel like a coward. That's the worst feeling in the world to me. Yeah, that's a horrible feeling.
So I get afraid all the time. It's completely normal. But the way I deal with it is I just run through it. Just face it head on. I have to.
face a problem head on excellent how how how are you going to get there this year what's your plan Man, that's a good one. That's the only question.
What plan? You want it, you want, you want to- Exercise.
How long is it? Do you drink?
Do you have a therapist?
Okay, then that's not a therapist. I'm the finest drug and alcohol treatment facility in the world. Some people think, you know, I'm the expert in this field, okay? I see my therapist three times a week. Yeah, that's how it's supposed to be. Today. Yeah. As we sit here today, okay, with all I've got going on, I still see my therapist three times a week. And there's a reason for it.
It's not something I have to do. It's something I get to do. It is the ultimate luxury. It is how responsible people deal with their stressors. Because here's the thing. If your stress is here... Your support, your therapy must always be ahead or greater than your stressors because now you're safe. Now you're safe. Okay? Yeah.
Okay. And you smoke pot. Yes. Cali sober. A hundred percent. Cali sober. Well, Cali sober means you don't drink. You just smoke. Oh, really? Well, I'm, I'm, uh, somewhere in the middle there. Yeah. That's okay, bro. You know what the thing is, is, you know, The Xanax was creating wreckage for you, right? Oh, yeah. Okay. And we'll get into that. The pot, I don't really have an opinion on. Okay.
Otherwise, what happens is you start creating wreckage and you become uncomfortable. And you and I don't do uncomfortable. Oh, yeah. Okay? If we're uncomfortable for long enough... Okay. We have to drink and use. We have to. That's how you and I are wired. Yeah, I agree. Okay. You need a therapist three times a week, man. If you want to get to where you want to get to and you want to blow up.
Okay. And you want to live your best life. that's the way to do it. Yeah. I'm definitely going to get there. I still want, I still think it's beautiful that you're going to wake up every morning and meet your body.
And grab a man. Don't grab a woman.
Okay. You need a man to teach you certain things and to walk through life with. Yeah. Okay. It's really important, man. And anybody who thinks that's weak, they're weak. Exactly. I agree. Because they don't know better.
Well, that's cool, bro, because nobody wants to hear from me. They're here for you today. Man, I am so grateful that you came here today to share your experience and how you've come out the other side just beautifully, man. I am so grateful to you. Thank you so much. Likewise. Very grateful and blessed to be on. I appreciate you. Cool. My listener is going to really appreciate it. Hell yeah.
Look into that camera bees and say, see you next Tuesday.
I consider it to be- Gateway drug? No, no, no, no. I consider it to be like a medically assisted treatment. Okay. Right? So that's not a problem for me. I just want you to be aware of the drinking, right? Because here's my experience. Yeah. Your first drink's fine. But somewhere in that second drink, halfway through, three quarters through, whatever it is, it happens. Mm-hmm.
Oh, you started... That buzz hits, right? Yeah, yeah, that buzz hits. Yeah. Right? And when that does and you're feeling good, it affects your decision-making. Yes. And then you're out to buy...
What was the most difficult moment in your journey trying to get sober?
For sure.
Well, it just affects your decision making. It just, you know, that's why people get in a car and they run into a family of four or whatever, you know. I agree completely. And so, if you can be honest with yourself, right? Yeah. And make certain that when you're feeling it, right, because you'll get away with it. The first, I mean, I got away with it maybe a hundred times. Yeah. Okay.
But then I was back to the dope man.
It is tricky, but here's my fear. Okay. One of the reasons or the reason I decided to do this podcast because of the fentanyl. Epidemic. Yeah, it's horrible. It's horrible. It's horrible. And, you know, Xanax, you ain't going to a damn pharmacy. You just said it. You called your plug.
Well, yeah. 70% of them have fentanyl in it. Yeah. So it's not if you're going to die, it's when you're going to die. When, exactly. Tell me about your family, dude. Do you have brothers, sisters?
All right. Little Zam. How's it going, man? How you doing? Doing good. This coffee is really good too, man. Thanks for coming today, bro. I really appreciate it. You came from Temecula? Yeah, Temecula, the faraway lands of Temecula. That's three hours. You're going six hours round trip?
So it's when you're out with people and somebody commits a felony like that, you're all responsible.
What's your relationship like with your parents right now?
So I was homeless for a little bit, not long, but I was, and I heard that you were, is that correct?
That's fantastic.
So- I want to talk about, first thing, your name. Yeah. Lil Xan. It's crazy.
What was the most difficult moment in your journey trying to get sober?
Dude, you're so lucky because... Nobody stays sober like that anymore. Yeah. Nobody gets sober like that anymore. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've always done, with every treatment center I've ever had, I've always had the same policy. Slow and steady. Yeah. No suffering. I had a guy who was just here. He had eight milligrams of Xanax that he was using for 20 years. That's the tolerance he built.
We went down in the first 30 days to two and a half. That's amazing. Right? So we didn't go down the whole way. We just went down slow and steady. It would have been stupid to go down the whole way. It took us another 30 days because it's harder at the end to go from two and a half to zero. And then- He stayed another 30 days on top of it because his head was foggy.
Because you're walking around like a... Like a zombie. And you've got a fog in your head. Yeah. And you've got all these thoughts and then you try to say them and the words don't come. Yeah.
You know, a lot of people try to get sober and you've tried four times. Yeah. Yeah. Probably more. Yeah. I've tried probably 300 times. I mean, I was just a wreck disaster. Yeah. Have you had any setbacks this time?
Yeah, without pills. Yeah, dude, you would have been dead for sure.
Right, totally. Do you see how excited he got when he was discussing the pills?
That was so good.
22, 23.
Dude, that's so good. That's so good. At 22, you must have just been like so wide-eyed. I was insane. That's so good.
Do you like, one of my favorite things, because I haven't seen Saturday Night Live in years. It's good right now. I did watch... the last couple years. I love that, the thing that Dennis Miller used to do with Michael Che and- Colin Jost. Yes. When they write each other's stuff. Oh my God, it's amazing. It's the best thing I've ever seen. Man of steel, S-T-E-A-L.
It's all about a big RB sandwich. They did it again this year. And she was like this.
No. He's a cool guy. Yeah, I would love to meet him. He's really cool.
George Carlin. Me too. Who is your second favorite comedian?
I love when you do Christopher Walken.
That's how I wake up in the morning. Yeah. I've got him on my phone. Saying what? Exactly. Richard, you got to get moving. Get up. Your employees, they're not gonna yell at themselves.
I didn't, my buddy did it for me. My buddy, how did I get him to do it?
Player, the most famous person I've ever had in my house is you. That's not true.
Your son forgets that he is. The best scene he's ever done was in True Romance. Do you remember that scene?
Let me ask you a question. Have you known anybody who's died of fentanyl? Fentanyl overdose?
Don't care. The only far you get when you play it forward, when you're using, is you think about the detox and you're like, uh-uh, I'm going to keep using. I mean, that for me, if you play this, if you play it forward, you can only think as long as I'm running out of drugs, I'm going to come down. Right? So I better keep using drugs.
I mean, for me, you know, every time I played it forward, I was thinking, you know, I'm gonna be suffering.
You don't get the bell ringer. Okay. You don't get the bell ringer, but you get that. So you're a lot more, you know, you're going to paint the house.
You've done remarkably well. Like you were doing, you were always functioning, right? I mean, you were 22 years old. You were doing drugs the entire time. I was drinking, drugs were like 2000 teens. But you still came out the other side beautifully. I mean, you've got a great wife. You've got great kids. Oh, now for sure. You've got great recovery.
You've got great relationships with a bunch of guys. Talked to one this morning, Tim, right? Just a wonderful guy. Tim Ryan's my boy.
Yeah.
That's the only way is through a commitment. If you don't have a contract with yourself to go when you don't want to go and to do what you don't want to do and push through it, you can't stay sober if you're an alcoholic like me. If you come in surrendered already, right? anybody can get you sober, okay? Because you've already surrendered.
You're willing to do anything and everything to stay sober.
Yes.
Handsome Tuesday.
All right. In your best Chris Walken voice, will you please look into this camera and say... You're out of time.
Explain that. And he can feel that way because it works for him. Right. Okay? And his life depends on it, so he's got to think that way. Okay? But... A lot of it comes from our early childhoods. Well, for sure. Right? And that's an external thing. And, you know, in AA, they talk about how, you know, our parents did the best they could, right? Even if they didn't.
You have to say that in order to codify it in your brain. But what happens is, so for example, you're five years old. Now, remember when you were five, you were little. And everybody was big. Remember? Okay. So if you have your father going, shut up, I'll give you something to cry about. And he smacks you or he hits you with the belt or in my case, the cane with the brass handle, right?
It's like, you can't formulate the thought, my parents are idiots. Because... your frontal cortex isn't developed. And not only that, but you're like, if these people don't love me, if they're the ones that have me, what am I supposed to do? I must be bad. You can't say anything other than because your frontal cortex isn't developed, I must be bad. And if you're bad, okay,
Every time you get disappointed, every time they hit you, every time they say, shut up, are you stupid? Or whatever they say, it reinforces itself. And pretty soon you're a 45 year old man You know, and your five-year-old self is running a 45-year-old man. And that's what I, but that doesn't make you a victim or for me, it doesn't make me a victim.
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And the reason it doesn't make me a victim is because I can say, okay, that's what happened Okay, I'm the adult now, I'm the parent now, and I'm not gonna be a victim. And the genius is that you figured that out and you stopped lying to yourself. And once you can get that, It works. But the thing about AA is it's always the same. And it's my foundation, man. I'm not sober today without AA.
I'm not. Okay. I don't have kids. I'm not, you know, none of it. I mean, I've been given a life, right? But The problem sometimes with AA is they feel it's the only way. Everybody's an expert on their own sobriety. And they have to believe that way because their life is dependent on it. So I understand it.
Dude, I was so, this is the household I was brought up in, and you'll be able to tell exactly why it turned out the way I did.
Yeah, he just had to beat the shit out of his tweens. That's all.
I must give you a lashing now. Oh my God, it was so bad. Where'd you grow up? In Encino, which is, again, scarring, right? Yeah. I can't even drive through the valley, man, without having anxiety. Yeah, it's the world's biggest consolation prize.
That's pretty good too. It's an island for a reason. My parents would put all three of their kids in the car after they feathered our hair. and they put us in the same outfits. Like I remember this jean outfit from head to toe with all these studs all over it. So we were like- I wanted this family. We were props. Feather hair and denim. Right? And then-
They put us in the... I was thinking... No, no, no. It's horrible. They put us in the Jew canoe and they roll up the windows and they're smoking, chain smoking Marlboro Reds while their three minor children are in the car asphyxiating. And I'm Jewish. So you would think they'd be like against that, right? Asphyxiating their kids. And...
Then the only time they opened the windows because my mom had this big pompadour, right? It was spray and wasn't moving. They rolled down the windows to throw the McDonald's, the poison that they were feeding their kids out on the freeway. So these are my parents. And that's the good part.
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That's too good.
I gotta stop you for a second.
Because I've been dying to know something, okay? This is like really, like you had a bucket list, this is mine. Tell me about the tire iron, okay? That's all I care about.
It is. When we're older, it's scary.
No, I got my ass kicked all the time.
Did you hurt anybody? No.
Okay.
How long do you have sober now?
Okay. So it's three years ago. Yeah. I'm sorry. I interrupted.
I don't think so. It's hard to have a connection with your old man when, you know, there's not a meeting of the minds, you know, and I know that hurts.
And he said, who the hell was that guy in your car?
But that's not as funny.
Let's go. Really like him gone.
Now, this is a perfect example of friendship.
Do you shoot any of the animal tranquilizer?
There's definitely a way they can do that.
If I had a nickel for every veterinarian that I've treated, I'd be living in lower Bel Air. I'm not even kidding.
Lame. And now you realize that's what's cool changes. Yeah. Right? And those guys are all in either jail, prison, rehab, or mental hospitals. Or they peaked at 17. Or they peaked at 17.
When did you realize you could sign your own cards?
Do you know what's funny? Nobody figures that out. Nobody. And you people don't know what I'm talking about. Go on.
He's just checking to see if you're still single. This guy's 15 minutes are up.
How sweet of you to think that.
Did you ever go to rehab? You didn't. So it clicked. How did it click? Do you start going to AA? Do you have a therapist? What did you do to get the support to stay sober? You were drinking every day. Yeah. And Coke.
An eight ball.
It's three and a half grams.
Is that 30 or 45 days for Lent?
We should talk about this for another 10 minutes because it's riveting. Yeah, right.
God wanted you to do that for you, not for him.
Hey, you got a lot of followers, right?
What would you tell these kids today who are running around buying drugs on the street?
Mr. Tate, where can we reach you? Where can people find you?
Okay. Now, I need you to look into that camera.
And in Spanish, I need you to say, see you next Tuesday.
Before you leave this podcast, you're going to tell me why you got jumped. That is the only thing I want to hear. And I can tell you now.
You got jumped by girls? Where was this?
Where? What city?
So this guy, this, will you tell me what happened? I mean, this is just, this is pissing me off.
Before you leave this podcast, you're going to tell me why you got chucked. That is the only thing I want to hear. I can tell you now.
You were a bitch and got your ass kicked by three of your friends.
Wow, that's a Jerry Springer moment.
But wait a minute. Hold on a second. You got your ass kicked while you were drunk or loaded or-
Excellent. Well, that's what happens when you drink. Through high school and now you're into college, now you're doing cocaine. Tell me about the drug use and what it was like and the wreckage you created.
Import modeling?
Oh, okay.
Were you smoking it?
Have you ever smoked it?
Have you ever shot it?
Have you ever shot any drugs?
Okay. Yeah. And so when you were doing cocaine, you were doing it with guys, right? Yeah.
And girls. Did guys ever hold that against you, keep drugs from you for sex?
Not once.
Okay. Well, you're lucky. That happens to everybody. Can I just tell you, you started off by saying this and you were very insistent on saying it. Yeah. You made it a point twice. Let's talk about how your parents did the best they could. Can I tell you how I resolve that for me? Because my parents were idiots.
Okay. I resolve it by saying this. At 16 years old, my father got in a car through his belongings in there and drove from Detroit to LA.
I mean, I'd want to light myself on fire if I was born in Detroit, right? I mean, that wasn't a good time for him. I got to live 58 years in LA and who knows if I would have had the courage to come out. I don't know. You know? So when you think about your parents at 18, coming from another country, probably not speaking English.
And if they did not well with probably little to no money, no way to make a living, nowhere to live. Okay. Your parents are stars because you can always tell a good parent by their children. And I can't imagine your parents not being extremely bright. So your parents, you don't ever have to qualify that again because your parents are star players. Okay. All right, man.
Don't you want to hear what it was like?
Well, you're close with your father, right?
Because that's not him.
Is he, I'm sorry, wait, wait, what did she say? She say he does alcohol?
And is he still drinking? Yeah. Does he want to get sober?
Will you do me a favor? If he ever wants to get sober, will you call Jason and Jason will have him put on the phone with me so that we can, you know, deal with this once and for all.
Okay. Cause it's hard to have a connection with your old man when, you know, there's not a meeting of the minds, you know, and I know that hurts.
I mean... I want to hear what it was like, and then what happened, and what it's like now. Don't you?
Can I tell you what you're feeling right now?
Did you hurt anybody?
So we're hardwired to love our parents. We'll never love our parents the way our parents love us. Okay. But we're hardwired to love our parents.
And I did the same thing you did. I would get immeasurably distressed. I would be beyond consolable because I fantasized about the parents that I wanted instead of the parents that I had. And once I understood that they actually did do the best they could.
Great. And so... you're never going to get all of your needs met. And they're going to check every box. But the high level from 30,000 feet, Great job. Great job. And I'm sorry your dad can't really connect with you. A lot of that is cultural. Very macho culture.
Right? So that's tough on a little girl who's just found evolvement.
okay because you know your father along in that than your parents but you want to know what sweetie we're supposed to be yeah because we're better than our parents and our children are going to be better than us and their children are going to be better than us and we want that for everybody okay now i'm serious well that's important stuff and i think that's a part of
Just you want to get sober?
How'd you get sober?
Did you hurt anybody?
Yeah.
Yep.
Nope.
Okay.
No, I'm not up on my serial killers.
45.
This was very hard for me to make public. But the woman that you're going to meet, Rima Mays, is the blessing of my life. And the reason I'm introducing her to everyone is because I have a hard time believing that we allow people to live like this. I don't think anybody should have to live like this. We can all sponsor a homeless person. It's not hard and it's not that expensive.
Yeah, exactly. Because I remember.
What you said to me exactly, verbatim, is, Mr. Richard, I was just wondering It's all the same with you and you're willing to pay the money that you're paying at Podshare. I think I'm ready to live on my own now. And if we fall short, I'll just sell more peanuts.
And I said, go find your place. That is perfect. I've been waiting for this call.
And I remember you telling me that some people didn't even get back to you. They just take the money.
You lived in Tuscaloosa, Alabama?
And I called you every maybe three weeks, a month. And I asked you how it was going. And that's what you told me, right?
And then you told me, do you remember what you said? You said... They've been taking my money and they don't even call me back. So I just gave up.
Remember?
And then what you don't know is I said, don't worry, I'll take care of it for you. And I called Farley into my office and I said, find this woman a place to live right now, please. And I asked him every couple of days for two weeks. And then I screamed at him and I'm like, what is going on here, man? Okay. He goes, they're not calling me back. So then I said, I will deal with it.
Hold on a second. Krista, go grab me my Alabama crescent tide. Roll tide. Roll tide. Now, in 2019, when you get here, what do you do? Where are you living?
I called these people and they didn't call me back. Not once. I must have called 10, 15 places like in an hour. I just bang, bang, bang, bang. Not one return call for a week. So then it hit me. The light went on and I said, oh, this is how poor people get jerked around. And then I thought to myself, oh, okay. So I picked up my phone and went through my contacts and
And I called my buddy, Jeff, who owns a lot of buildings. And I told him about you and I said, I need a place. And he said, Rich, I don't have anywhere. Okay. In these areas. Cause I wanted you close to me. Right. And she didn't have anything. And he said, but don't worry about it. Your problem is my problem. And I'll have something for you by the end of the day. And he showed me three places.
And one of them was in Century City, right across from the mall. And you're about a nine iron from my lawyer, Kevin, one of my best friends. And so I knew I'd be able, if God forbid there was an emergency, he could run right over, right? Or Farley could, or I could. And he found me that place. Did you know about the place before we took you there?
You didn't, right? Good, because I didn't want you to know about it. And what Farley and I did was we went and we got all the furniture, right? The bed and the side table. Do you have side tables? Bed and side tables. The couch at the end of the bed with the coffee table. The TV. The desk and the chair. We got you a computer.
Okay. We're done with that.
I want you to know that. If I need somebody's right arm, I'm taking his. Okay.
So much. Got a good grip on you.
I've got resources. Okay. Hold on one second. See you next Tuesday. All right, we're done today.
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I'm sorry, you stayed on Federal and Wilshire?
What does that mean, a seasonal shelter?
I don't know. They'll give you one season there. You get three months there.
Carts. So it's like, it's like this big, wide, and it's got this little thing like this, like a,
Yeah.
With a bunch of different heads so people can stand up at the same time to do it?
Like a locker room for a football team.
Where'd you go after that?
So... I remember the day that I spoke to you and the day that Danielle sent me that picture of you, where were you sleeping then?
How often did you stay outside?
A week?
Your phone wasn't working then. It was turned off. Because I remember I called you.
I asked Danielle, let me just back up. So I'm sorry. It's just, you know, I love you so much that to even think that you spent one night on the street is so much for me.
Hey, you're never going to have to do that again.
Not ever. Amen. So, You were staying on Podshare and then one day you were on the bus bench with all your stuff. And what happened?
So, Rima, how long, sweetheart, were you homeless? Well, before we get there, okay, what I want to talk about is you were born in Alabama.
The next day.
And you lived in Alabama all your life.
She sent me the picture with no explanation. And so I called her right back and I said, what is this? And she said, it's just a picture I wanted to send you. I said, does that woman have a phone? And she said, yes. I said, give me her phone number. She went to you and gave and got your phone number and gave it to me. And then I called it and it was out of order.
So I called her back and I screamed at her and I told her to tell you to wait there. And if she wasn't at my house in a half hour to lose my number, And when she got there, I gave her some money. I don't remember what I gave her.
How long were you in Alabama for?
Honey, I didn't give anybody a thousand dollars. I gave her more than a thousand dollars. And I said to her, I said, I think I gave her two thousand. And I said to her, I said, find this woman a place to live and let me know where she's at. And she didn't know where to go, did she? But you knew where to go.
And then what happened?
And her wife's name is?
Okay. Those two women, they're married, right? And they've got a child. And I think they've got another child now. Really? I think they do. These two women are the greatest human beings on the face of the earth. Yeah. The best. Yeah. Podshare. P-O-D-S-H-A-R-E. And that's where people stay.
Okay. And then when you left there, when you left Alabama, where, Mobile? Mobile, Alabama? Where were you? What part of Alabama?
Everybody loved you there.
That's what she said. Everybody. That's what she said. If somebody doesn't love you, the problem's them.
So that must have been what? I know how long.
Two and a half years.
You were perfect. That's called a bracket.
How do we erase the stigma around women who are pregnant coming into treatment?
Right. But I want to get back to that. I want to get back to the solution. I don't want to veer off.
Isn't it if you're not taking Suboxone at the same time every day with the same dose and you're taking it early, you're like walking around two-tenths high? Yeah.
So why is anybody using methadone?
Okay, but here's where I need the distinction drawn. If you've got somebody coming in, right? A mother who's pregnant coming in and she's taken, I don't know, 320 Oxycontin, right? A day, right? She's loaded and she's going to have a withdrawal if she's done it for any length of time, right? Why would you not...
detox her with the methadone, if that's the way you do it with other populations, isn't she going to, how do you assist, how would you assist that detox process with a pregnant mother?
That's an excellent point, right? So she's using, right, to not just stay high, but to keep from getting sick. That's the primary motivation. Of course, of course. So my question then again is, What do you use along with buprenorphine to detox this woman so that she's not suffering?
Because it would seem like, yeah, it's better for the baby, but it would have been better for the baby not to be using in the first place, right? So how do you assist this process?
Dr. Blair. Mm-hmm. Is that what you're experiencing with women who are showing and when you see them addicted to drugs, what's your experience around that?
They can't get off the couch. They can't get off the couch. The reason people use opiates a lot of the times, and the reason they're called painkillers is because they work better on emotional pain than they do on physical pain. And we're a depressive society. Income disparity is getting worse and worse. Uh, it's getting harder. Careers are not careers any longer.
Um, you're changing careers every three years. Now it's not like when we were kids and you could be, uh, you know, uh, whatever it is you were, you work at an auto plant. Okay. For 30 years or with a pension, right. With a pension. And, you know, those days are over now, you know, the technology it's like every day, right. It's changing. So, um,
I want to get back, if you don't mind, I want to get back to the solution, okay, one more time, okay? Because we can either talk about it or be about it. And, you know, you're a big shot there, okay? How would it be received if we put an outline together that said, hey, look, when they come in like this, right? When a pregnant mother comes in and she's showing and or not, right?
But it's not going to happen if they're not showing in this case, chances are, right? So if she comes in, she's showing, right? She has an accidental overdose. She's in the ER. How do we get that? Blair in there right away, these centers that will take people for Medicare and Medi-Cal and Medicaid and Obamacare and all these insurances that...
treatment centers don't typically take so we put those in the in the portal she then refers gets them to pick them up or you guys transfer them right to the treatment center and we save a couple lives how how is that going to happen
Hold on a second. That's true. That's the first step. But they're not going to have. Wait, hold on a second. But they're not going to trust that. She's the one that gets the trust because not every doctor's like you. The patients that you have trust you because you're unusual.
We need somebody, a social worker, okay, who has the ability to connect and really love them and express to them how serious this is and that it's going to be okay and then make the transfer and stay with this woman until they actually pick them up. That is how I envision it. So how do we get that done? Will the people be receptive to that?
But you're talking about the person, right, that actually has the wherewithal to come in and check on the baby. And that happens all the time because you're seeing it. I'm specifically talking about the woman who is overdosed or med seeking and going into the ER. Right. And that woman is like the baby is an afterthought. Right. Right.
And so what I'm saying is, is there a way procedurally, right, to work it out with the hospital, right, to actually have this policy so that we can save the masses? I know what you're going to do. Right. But you're one of one. Right. OK, where I want is a policy that they have to follow every single time this happens. Is there a way to listen?
I don't care if you're going to shame these administrators or shame the hospital system. That's OK.
OK. How do you incentivize them?
Right. I'm always looking for the punishing program.
Can we get the opposite? Can we get them incentivized for every one they send to treatment?
You know, the insurance companies, OK, are all about outcomes now.
Right. It would seem that insurance companies would have a horse in this fight. Right. I know that's wrong.
What is the horse in the race? Yes. A dog in the fight. Right. Both of them. Both of them are good. Right. It would seem that they have a self-interest issue. In getting this transfer to treatment to prevent the ongoing med seeking in the ongoing survival.
No, but I get it. No, I get it. But it's basically, it's not so much anecdotal. It's more or less field research for you, right? So that's the ticket right there. That's the ticket.
Yeah, but I think it's $250 for a wrongful death. Yeah, but they don't care. I like the fact that the CEOs of these insurance companies are making between $30 and $50 million a year, right? And they're doing it based on...
you know gains quarter over quarter year over year and i think that this is something that would be genius for certain companies they'll all jump on but you have a sigma or an etna or anthem or whoever it is some stud walks in and says no no this is the policy right here okay and you know everybody jumps on the bandwagon right so if you took it from a
Especially when they show up to treatment pregnant showing. Yes. Because there's so much judgment around it.
And that is, we're educating OBGYNs right from the gate, right? So that they understand what these protocols are and they can identify the med seekers and the people who are overdosing and addicted. Is there a way to do that?
Yeah. Because, you know, a lot of doctors are desensitized to the process of helping another.
This is for you. Because I've spoken in a lot of these psychological universities, right? Wouldn't the seniors or the people who are about to graduate that have to do their hours, right? And they get out, they've got to do their hours. Wouldn't it be great? And they're altruistic at that point, right? Right? They're on fire. So they come out, they're trained in this, right?
They go ahead and they do you and their hours are actually signed off on by the hospital, right? That seems like, you know, a cost effective way to do it for everybody and really the best way.
And these people are on the way out, right? This is something where, you know, they've got like what an 80 year life expectancy.
That was my idea to deal with the homeless issue, right? Just you get one guy, it's the Pied Piper, right? They, 25 of them follow this guy because this isn't something that you can teach, right? I mean, I guess it is if you, see, the problem is normally you can video yourself and, but you can't in the homeless population, right?
Because if you're doing it that way, these people get creeped out and they don't want it. Right. So that can't happen. But if you walk around with coffee and breakfast and whatever, sandwiches, whatever it is, socks, jackets, blankets, whatever it is, and you're of service and you have the conversation and you can pull a couple people off the street a day and put them somewhere.
You know, it's magic, right? I mean, that's how I envision this, right? You go in and you have, you know, I've seen the doctors walk in. You've got four guys in tow, right? And so same thing here. You know, you walk in, you've got four of these trainees, these people straight out of school. They come on in, they see how you do it and they branch out.
And the next thing you know, they're training and they don't have to do a bunch of hours. They can do, you know, a hundred hours of this and then become proficient. And they grab their, the next four, each one grabs another four and you can make a difference in a whole hospital in like, you know, three, four months. Yeah. Right. And these hospitals are all chains now. Right.
And then they go to the next chain and the next chain, like you're at Memorial, that chain. Right. They're like the third biggest in the nation, aren't they? Okay. I mean, you could do that. These could be positions. And in every major city, you've got these psychological universities. Right. And think about it. These people are such good. Most of the people that go in to be a therapist. Right.
Right. They've got good souls, right? Right? There's a good soul industry. Yeah, sure. I mean, can you imagine? That's not a hard sell to get them to, you know, take care of babies and mothers. That's not hard at all.
That's right. At least.
At least.
All right. What else we got? This has been so productive. I don't even know what to say. I'm so grateful that the both of you came today. Thank you. I really am.
As you guys know, my name is Richard Tate. I'm the founder of Carrera Treatment Facility. And I call this podcast, We're Out of Time. And the reason I do that is because we actually are with this fentanyl crisis that we're having. I mean, the opioid epidemic has been going on for a while, okay? But now it's killing everybody with fentanyl. And
But you got to take the first step in on anything. So if it was easy, everybody would be doing it. You guys just got to drag these people across the goal line.
It's hard to start it. It is. It's hard to get people in power to get on board, okay? And you really have to give them the credit, right? And you just have to be, you know, hey, man, you almost have to talk to them and make it their idea, right? Right? Oh, true.
That is politics to a T. I do not need credit. Credit is for politicians.
Yeah. So guys, thank you so much for coming. I just, before I leave, Kenny, how can they find you? If anybody needs you, how can they reach you?
Blair, how can they find you?
Outstanding. Thank you, guys. Oh, you were going to fact check me on something.
How long have you been doing this, Kenny? 30 years.
Did I get that right? Yeah. Okay. All right, guys. Thank you so much.
Thanks for having me.
Yeah, it's ridiculous how women, it's funny, I had somebody bring in my dry cleaning, right? A woman bring in my dry cleaning and it cost three times more for her than it cost for me, right? And they do that in mechanics too. Like women get the short end of the stick. Hairstylists. Everything. Yeah, women get the short end of the stick everywhere.
How do we go ahead and erase the stigma around women who are pregnant coming into treatment?
you know, when you were back in the day, when you were scoring cocaine or heroin or pills off the street, it wasn't, you, you thought you were getting it, you know, you were getting the Percocet, you were getting the heroin, you were getting all these drugs today. That's not what you're bargaining for. Okay. It's being laced with fentanyl. It's killing about, um, 112,000 people a year, right?
People are getting fat shamed all the time.
In the medical community.
Okay.
You know what it is? They come in. I think you get pregnant if you're going to carry it to term, right? You... There's a part of the mama bear inside of you, right? And it's protective and right. And so then what happens is they feel such shame, right? That they're not coming to you in the first place.
And so really what we got to do is we've just got to, it's got to be the same exact thing that we did to erode substance use disorder in the first place, which is you're not bad. You're just sick, right? right? And now, like you said at the beginning, it's affecting more than just you. And what scares me the most, why you're here, is because I'm a father.
And when you're as old as I was when I had kids, you don't just love your kids, you love all kids. And I'm passionate about this opioid epidemic and specifically the fentanyl thing. It's causing more homeless, which I'm also passionate about. And if I see another child on the street in an encampment, I'm going to snap, right? I see that all the time.
But this is so bad because they're being born with birth defects, right?
But when you're five, six months showing and you're already in the grips of addiction in the first place, right? How do we make it so that we can draw the distinction between, oh, you just found out that you're showing. This is different. Now this is going to affect your baby. She's going to be born or he's going to be born or they're going to be born addicted. And the withdrawal is painful.
And I assume that sometimes that results in a fetal death, right?
So how is it in a hospital setting? How can we get like somebody like Dr. Blair in there so that the second on the first time they come in, right? They meet with somebody like you and you sit down with them and you connect one-on-one and you, you know, give them the reality of the position they're in and how to deal with it. Maybe refer them to, you know, a treatment center, right?
And it's increased 30-fold over the last 10 years. And most of it has been in the last five since I've been gone. And one of the reasons I came back was because of this. This is Dr. Blair. She's a psychologist. Fantastic. She's been doing this for about 20 years. This is Dr. Kenneth Spielvogel, one of the finest women's physicians in the city. And let's start with Dr. Spielvogel. Good morning.
Isn't that something that a hospital administrator would be open to?
Wrong question, man. Wrong question. Nobody wants treatment. Okay. The only thing harder to sell than treatment is adult circumcision. I'm not even kidding. Swear to God. It's the hardest thing.
It's called a moment of clarity. Okay. If you don't take her right there, if you can't transfer her right there to a treatment center, that moment passes like a cloud just goes, right? So. Is there an apparatus? You're a teaching doctor there. They revere you. Okay.
Is there a way that maybe something like that can be put into place that somebody who's skilled like Blair can meet with them one-on-one? Mm-hmm. Right. And then you make the referral right away to wherever you think is appropriate. And there'll be like a transfer portal. Right. We know of those things. Right. Transfer a referral portal. Portal. Right.
And so you take that, you look into it, you do your assessment of where is appropriate for her. Right. And you you arrange for the pickup. Right. And she's transferred immediately.
Well, that's what this is about. It's about solutions.
Yeah, but you got to bite it down. When you bite it, bite it and pull. Now, don't bite the out of it like a botch. Like that. That's it.
Did your parents find out about that?
Sexual abuse?
When?
That's when they found out about it? Yeah. Did anything happen to this guy?
Were you traumatized by the experience of jail?
How long after leaving jail, what was the time period that it took you to get sober from that point on?
He's been taken care of.
Tell the viewers what that means in English.
I just want to know if the guy went to jail or not.
They raided your house and found heroin? Yes.
For sure.
Right. It's back to the community thing.
Well, we're always the last to know.
No, but it had, but, but again, you don't, it's time goes on, right? We don't remember, but I can guarantee you the parts that stuck. were building blocks for the next.
I was like, how old were you when you left the house?
So you don't think you've transcended alcoholism?
I think that, um, do you believe that people can transcend alcoholism?
You just said that because you know that's what I wanted to hear.
Yeah.
Your father punched you in the face at 14. Do you talk to him anymore?
Me neither.
I couldn't do cocaine or heroin if my life depended on it. And nobody likes that.
I don't remember. Give me the first name.
Your father punched you in the face at 14? Yeah. Do you talk to him anymore?
I remember.
Uh-huh.
Not only that, not only that.
Right.
Do you know why?
Okay, good.
They are. They are brutal. Um, You're 11 years sober.
13 and a half. At 10 years sober, you probably blew up.
But it got better at 10 years. Yeah.
Are these Evan's kids?
Do you, does Evan see the kids?
Great father.
Yeah, he's a good guy. All Canadians are good guys.
Where do celebrities go to rehab?
Are you just telling me that because that's what I want to hear?
Yes. You know, we allow dogs at Carrera.
Is that, because I don't play nice with others, is that something that is- A barrier? Typical in the industry?
The one thing I want to talk about is managing your stressors because there's only so much an alcoholic can tolerate before he's got to self-medicate, right? And, you know, people are stigmatizing therapy. but not like they used to. And people don't understand that therapy isn't something you have to do. It's something you get to do. It is the ultimate luxury.
Because if our stressors are here and we don't have the support, right? That's greater than the stressor. At some point you've had enough, right? Talk to me about that, about your experience with your personal therapist.
No, it's okay.
You can cuss.
Explain what somatic experiencing is to, uh, a layman to a layman because, uh, I don't think they get it. And initially when I first heard about it years ago, I was like, okay, so you scream into a pillow or you beat the out of a pillow. I don't get it.
Like what's that movie that I watched with the kids about anger? Yes.
Oh, I love that movie.
Then we're going to continue to suffer.
It's so much harder today for the kids today than it was for us because everyone's got a voice. Everybody thinks their opinion matters. Everybody.
That's exactly right.
Well, what's about it is that, you know, when I was a kid and I ran my mouth, OK, I got my ass kicked. OK, now people are running their mouths because they got computer courage.
How do you know?
So it never gets worked out.
You know what I mean? That's the sad part. And the girls are taking it so seriously.
Right. And they're all having such a hard time. The guys don't give a.
How do you know? How do you know that those traumas that you experienced in early childhood weren't so painful that you had to self-medicate over it?
Where can people find you? Got 117,000 people following you on Instagram.
Thank you so much for coming today.
I really appreciate it. I have one request.
Okay. I need you to look into that camera right there. And I need you to say, see you next Tuesday.
See you next Tuesday.
That's not why you don't pick up a drink or a drug. The reason you don't pick up a drink or a drug is because you're a single mother. You're not a dip. You're in love with your kid.
No, no, no, not with a head. You can't unring a bell. You can't have the, the, the life that we've had and the education that we've had. And I'm not talking about the anecdotal, you know, we don't do, you know, people would say, oh, there's no evidence that what you've got is anecdotal. No, we don't have anecdotal evidence in this business. We've got field research in this business. Okay.
And that's what they use.
I'm the president of your fan club.
No, but that's, but now you're creating new facts. That wasn't your situation.
You went ahead and dealt with that responsibly so that you could get to the other side of it. And then you have kids. And what you're saying is, well, I still don't drink because I'm an alcoholic and that's fine. But the reason you don't drink
Is because you're a mother and you know what it's like to grow up in an alcoholic household.
Because you're smart.
I read years ago that these houses were being hit by this group of kids and Paris Hilton's house got burglarized as well. You were part of that.
I went to three high schools in my senior year.
Were you on Pretty Wild?
I love.
I love it because I've got a 15-year-old daughter and any time I can spend with her, I'm taking it and that's the way we spend the time.
Tell me about it.
No, I want the whole story.
And you got caught not at the scene. You
What was the last house you guys robbed before you got there?
So you were only physically in Orlando's home. You didn't go to any of the other homes.
You had to pick my boy Orlando, huh?
I can't even imagine- Actually, you can make an amends to him personally, and I can make that happen today.
All I can say is that- I think that would be cool for the ending of this podcast.
Was she receptive?
Because she knew you guys were kids and-
You took a dress?
Did Orlando ever get back his shit?
And she let you come right home.
Good, good.
You had bad behavior one night.
How was it in jail?
What are the girls like in jail when you walk in? Tell me about that experience when you first get there. That's got to be just the culture shock of a lifetime.
So sorry. That is so it's horrible.
In isolation?
So you were isolated.
Why were you, why were you in isolation?
You got kids?
Really? Yes. How far along is she? Seven weeks. Wife, girlfriend, fiance? Girlfriend. Really?
How old is she? She is 30-something. Really? Yeah. See, she's getting in under the wire. You know, you got to have a kid, I think, now by 38 if you want to have a second child. Literally, yeah. Yeah. I mean, I'm not a baby doctor. We can call and ask my baby doctor, but... Do you have kids? I have two children. I talk to them about the fentanyl issue all the time.
I was taking my son to school the other day. I took him today too. I take my son to school the other day and he's getting out of the car. I start getting emotional. I said to him, I said, I need you for a minute. He says, yeah. I said, look, I know we've talked about this fentanyl thing and the vape thing because it's in the vapes now. Yeah. And all the drugs and pills and everything else.
But I just want you to know that at some point, because he just went into sixth grade. So now he's in middle school.
Different.
And I said to him, I said, it's going to happen, babe. And let me tell you how it's going to happen. Somebody is going to walk up to you. and want you to participate in drugs, give you a pill and put peer pressure on you to do it. He says, I won't do it. I said, let me finish. Okay. The only reason they're doing that and bringing you into it is because they know it's wrong. For sure.
And they know it's dangerous. And, but if they bring you in it, they feel a little less wrong because you're co-signing their, their behavior. Don't co-sign anybody's behavior, bro. Okay. I love you. Okay. This is not something I get over. Okay. Please. And he looks at me and he goes, I love you so much, daddy. And I was like, you know, I must've had this conversation. That's beautiful.
Dude, I left and I cried for about half the way home from school because I'm just so scared, not just for me, but for you and for the parents that lost their child and the children that That were left without a father. And it's just, it's too much, dude. It's, it's why I came back to work and it's why I started doing this, you know?
Dude, don't, please. We don't have to get into it. I can't. I don't even have an ear for it. Where else are your gigs? You just got back from Spain. Who'd you play with by the way there?
And, you know, I'm just grateful to you for showing up because this, this is taking, this is killing everybody.
Yeah.
I just don't even understand.
We don't let our kids have social media. My daughter's 14 years old. And it's like, she's on TikTok all the time. She's like, can I, you know, I think she might have something that's private with like, I don't know, just a group of friends. Right. But, you know, social media is tough, man. And people are so mean.
I had that same problem when I was a kid. I had a model, right? My father. And what I gleaned from that was... I treated people shabbily. to make myself feel good. I didn't know another way, right? And later on in life with therapy and I went to AA, right? In my early sobriety, I learned that's not the way you do it, right?
I don't need to make you feel small to make myself feel big, but I didn't know. I love that. Yeah, so- Yeah, dude, that's a parent thing. That is definitely a parent thing.
If the model is shitty though, you come out shitty. Unfortunately, that is the case. You know anybody right now that is struggling with drug addiction. Because I was really bad, bro. Let me just start with this. I was smoking crack. I'm a buck 90 right now. I was a buck 47. All my teeth are cracked, right? I'm pale, but I've got a greenish, not greenish, a grayish tone to me, right?
I'm 147 pounds dripping wet. And I'm smoking between six and eight days straight at a time. All the time. Taking a Big Mac once a week just to keep myself alive. Now, that's the way I used. Okay? You know anybody... It's hard to find people who are using like that anymore. But because they usually die before they get to six or eight days.
Good for you, man.
Now we're in a different, now we're out of time.
So now if somebody's using drugs- Yeah. Okay. it you know their their their um their covers need to be pulled because there's somebody's kid there's somebody's parent for sure right and we're losing everybody right so that's that's the thing there but i love what you said what made you um stop um and change your life from using drugs oh dude the life I was living was exhausting.
So, your name is Apollo. Apollo Liberace, yes sir. Apollo, but that's with all the ice, right?
Just exhausting. I mean, first of all, You have to buy an ounce of cocaine every day because you can't just go buy a kilo.
It's a hassle because you have to get an ounce of cocaine every single day.
Okay. It's just nasty. It's all nasty. It's exhausting. It's nasty. And that was my story. Dude, you know how good that is that you've set a healthy boundary for yourself where that's just not you're going to deal with.
Okay, tell me about your old man.
Your old man had the same conversation with you that I had with my son the other morning.
Well, he probably won't remember that. he'll remember one of the 30 or 40 or 50 times that we've had the conversation.
Tell me about the TV show.
How's it doing?
That is cool.
And what have you done on the show that's been memorable that you'll remember?
That ain't a little thing. That's in-show advertising. That's in show. That's not like, you know, you're running a commercial and people like that and they fast forward through it. Literally. Right.
We got a hotel. We're going to get into that story. Because I want to hear that story.
So you're living in North Hollywood. Okay. Things are good. You've been okay financially now.
I've never been an ass sucker. Nobody wants to be called an ass sucker.
Okay. For many years.
Okay. When you look back at, Your time being homeless. Yeah. Okay. Because you don't use that word, but you're doing that for four years. Yeah. Right. How was that experience going through that whole four years where you're just eating a sandwich chasing a dream?
Because... Dude, I know exactly what you mean.
That's your song?
Okay.
Yeah, you're going to do it. Do you know why you're going to do it? You're going to do it because you've cut off every other possibility.
There's no discussion. There's no debate. You've thanked God in advance. And that's just happening, okay? And when you go through four years of being a homeless, and now you got your own pad, you're all iced up, which I don't care about. But you have a career and a following and an influence over others for positive, not always, always. And, um, there's no way you're not going to hit it up.
I think you're the fifth rapper. I like that. That I've interviewed. And the reason I picked you guys more than anybody. Talk to me. It's it's fentanyl and accidental overdoses are killing the kids today. And it's prevalent in your scene, right? The underground rap scene. So that's why I started it in the first place. Yeah. Right. But I'm watching last night. We did something with Dusty.
Well, I appreciate that. There's no way. It's not possible. That means a lot. You saying that is a little extra drive for me. You have that type of resiliency, right? And then you have a singleness of purpose to the point where you're in an environment where 99% of the people are getting loaded all day long and you're walking through straight as an arrow, right?
L.A.
No, no, no, no. The best, I have a rule. Okay. The first hundred people that we hired at Carrera were by invitation only. Think about that. Wow. Only by, you had to have the best soul ever ever. Because that's my thing. Love's my thing. Love, empathy, safety, containment, respect, attunement to one's needs before they know they have one, right?
If somebody has to ask for some shit that they knew that they were going to be asking for and they didn't bring it to them, I'm pissed. like violently pissed.
think about doing them like that's just ridiculous like it's not things it's like like my prayers used to be when i was doing drugs like yeah of course i want things to i don't know what you mean i want things to like so i can help my family and yeah i ask for those things for sure dude i would just say god i know you're disappointed with me yeah right um please just help me stay safe Right.
And enjoy this run. And when it's over, we'll, we'll try again. Okay. Yeah. And then I'd say, what I always say is thank you, God. I love you. Amen. Right. And so I was not like you. Yeah. I was not like, Oh, tomorrow's going to be a better. Yeah. No, I didn't see any better days in front of me, but I knew I was covered. I knew that because of my connection, I knew I wouldn't be thrown away.
Now, I didn't know what use I had in the world. I didn't know how I'd be useful. Because I think that life is about being of maximum service to God and to your fellow man. I just believe that people that come through the hardest of times.
Are tough. Like, you know, a hundred percent. Yeah. They just toughen up. Yeah. What you went through is just like another level. Well, dude, I didn't know any better.
I was raised by wolves. Facts. I mean, I didn't know. I mean, you're old man and you have the, and that's the thing.
And, and like, why he, Because he was, he didn't have any cash either. He was, he was hard up too at that time.
I love you.
Do you know Dusty?
I gotta tell you something.
So I'm watching the tape last night. the raw footage. And I looked at Dylan and I go, dude, have you ever seen me happier and more comfortable in your life? And we watched the others earlier that week, this week. And same thing. I'm just happy. It's like, you know, there's something about like rappers that I just gravitate to. I love that.
just even having that is i can't complain with my life you know i have both parents that are there for me so your dad did the same thing for you that i would have done for my kid you'd have been like listen i'm going here and like yeah i'm going there too now i've just dropped everything if you want to sleep in a car i would have slept it makes the story like
Well, what it makes is it means that the reason you are the way you are is because you had good parents and they put you first. Your father cannot love another human being more than he loves you. There's just no way. Do you have any brothers and sisters?
Really? Is he very close with the sisters too?
He's still talking to your mom?
You made the complete repair?
Does your dad live with you? Does he live with me now?
Oh, wow. That's shocking. I thought that you're... Like, when my kids leave the house, I'm going with them.
No, no, no. I'm going with them. It's like, this one will go to New York.
That's in Atlanta, right?
Yeah.
And you all live in kind of the same complex.
That's a night. You know who does that? The people in Italy. When I told my guide, I said, hey- I don't want to see any of this tourist bullshit. Because at the end of the day, that's your tribe. That's your tribe. Do you know these guys? He brought me to the countryside. I'm like, where do you live? He goes, countryside. I said, take me there. Beautiful. He goes, my house?
I said, yeah, bro, to your house. Your house. Okay. So he takes me to his house. He lives on the bottom floor. Other family members live on the second and the third and the fourth. And his grandfather, who built the thing, lives on the top.
And they all live together and they have lunch every day and dinner every night. We all eat dinner together. That's the most beautiful thing I've ever seen.
Is he in LA?
You must talk to your old man every day.
Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah.
I need to ask you for a favor. Yes, sir. Anything you need. I need you to look into that camera right there. And I need you to say, see you next Tuesday.
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And I don't even, and I don't even listen to music anymore, dude. Me either, which is, I make music. How do you not listen to music and you're a rapper?
You write your own shit?
But I thought the new way to create music is with no instruments. Yes.
Are you willing to do something acapella right now?
Don't you want to find one guy? Yeah. every once in a while, like a famous producer, like a Rick Rubin. Yeah, exactly. Or something like that, right? Where you would have them knock you out one every once in a while.
It was 3,000. Really? Yeah. 3,000. And you rocked the house. Insane. Insane. Do they know the words to your songs?
So where do you put it? Where do you have these songs?
So you moved around a lot because your mom was in the military.
Dude, that's my biggest regret. My single biggest regret is not going into the military.
Yeah. Absolutely. Absolutely. I would have either been a four-star general or I'd been thrown out on my ass. No in between.
Right. For sure. So, listen, you're not smoking a lot of pot, but you're around people.
Who are smoking all day long.
It's part of the... It's part of the culture. Yeah. I get it. Okay. But what about like... Fentanyl, the Fentanyl death. So is that happening? Do you know any people who have dropped from Fentanyl?
Anybody you were close with?
Okay. But how long ago was that?
Okay, so then we can assume that there was fentanyl in it.
You don't get heroin from a pharmacy and they're all stepping on it.
You can't do cocaine anymore. You literally can't. No, you can't do cocaine. You can't do heroin. Okay. Dude, the cocaine was at least 70% pure then. Well, it was always pure for me because I was rocking it up and smoking it. Love it. But, well, not really.
Dude, I used to walk in with an ounce of cocaine, walk over, grab that off, throw it in there, walk down the aisle, grab some baking soda, throw it in there, walk over to the soda machine and do bang, bang with the water, stir it like this, take a bunch of napkins, put it on this push number seven, I think it was, on the microwave, get out, grab the ice, put it in my mouth,
everything that's been going on has been worth it. I just want to thank you for coming by today on short notice. Yeah. Your energy is so good that you just, even, you're, dude, you're the best.
crash it up, put it in there, do this, walk out, throw 20 bucks on the counter in under a minute. People didn't even know what was going on. I once did it with a cop in the store. Jesus. Well, I needed to get high.
Right. But fast, right? The reason I've got you on here.
Is you got, how many followers you got on Instagram? Oh,
Okay, so you got 500,000. Okay. Kids are going to listen to you, right? Nobody's going to listen to me.
Does he have parents that are still alive?
That family is never going to be the same.
They're destroyed. How could you recover? They're completely destroyed. And the children are never going to be, the children are damaged forever.
How'd you get sober? Wrong will.
See where and how we can make some money. Um... Meditate. I don't work out as much as I should. How often do you work out?