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Wetness.
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And then you say the wetness is in the relationality of the water molecules to each other.
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And you'd be absolutely right.
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And you'd be talking about emergence.
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That's all emergence is.
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So someone who says emergence, schmergence has no idea about, as Buckminster Fuller said, the nature of the synergy of reality, where it's the relationality of stuff that gives rise to something that allows the whole to be greater than the sum of its parts.
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That being said, what I said to the group the next week,
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was that the mind could be an emergent property of energy flow
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And that in a culture, you study energy flow within a community of people, within sociology, you study in a group.
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And within neuroscience, what we do, because I'm trained in neuroscience, you know, is we study energy flow inside the brain.
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My teacher of neuroscience, David Hubel, won the Nobel Prize for discovering in 1981 was the prize was awarded.
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He discovered with Torsten Wiesel, you know, that the way energy streams through the nervous system changes the structure of the brain itself.
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So I was it was natural for me, given my training with David Hubel, to say energy flow is what the brain is about.
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It's how the brain grows anyway.
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But if you're an anthropologist and I've been trained in anthropology also, you know, you study how energy is being shared in what's called communication patterns that have symbolic value.
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Right.
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And so.
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Anyway, I went back to the group and said, what if the mind is an emergent property of energy?
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And one of those particular properties is called self-organization.
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So basically, the bottom line of all that is the mind could be defined as an emergent, self-organizing aspect of energy flow that is both embodied and relational.