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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
One of those is self-organizing, and that means it's regulating its own becoming.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
And that set up a whole framework called interpersonal neurobiology.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
The group went on to meet for four and a half years.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
And since then, because that was over a third of a century ago, there has not been another definition of the mind offered anywhere as far as I can tell.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
And that definition has predicted all sorts of future research from other people.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
So it wasn't like proving its own, trying to prove its own validity.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
And we would just say it's been supported by a ton of research.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
And so that definition has been really powerful because what that means in terms of your question, Patricia, is that we're at a place now, if that definition is correct, and I think it might be, that's just my personality, I always doubt everything, but I think it could be.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
And if it is correct, then what that means is that we've gone down a pathway of mistaken identity
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
that happened starting 2,500 years ago with Hippocrates, the father of modern medicine, who said, our mental lives are only up in our heads.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
That was wrong.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
It's a much bigger story.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
And indigenous cultures and contemplative teachings have been teaching there's some, it's much bigger than the individual brain.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
And, you know, I've gotten a lot of pushback, but, you know, it's just more emotional than anything else because it's not academic, really.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
You know,
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
The mind is broader than the brain and bigger than the body.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
And we've been living as if it's just enclosed in the individual.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
And that's, I think, why we've gotten into so much trouble.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
I know.
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Dr. Daniel Siegel: Mental Health, Connection & AI | Guest Co-Host Patricia Freebery, LMFT
The neighbors on that side would get very agitated, but the neighbors on those side would totally agree with me.