Rick Doblin

But it was true. You can't claim to be part of everything and only take the good parts. Right. And it just was a shocker to me that this logic brought me to this. And it was really, really shocking. And it took me this whole day to start working on that.

But it was true. You can't claim to be part of everything and only take the good parts. Right. And it just was a shocker to me that this logic brought me to this. And it was really, really shocking. And it took me this whole day to start working on that.

But it was true. You can't claim to be part of everything and only take the good parts. Right. And it just was a shocker to me that this logic brought me to this. And it was really, really shocking. And it took me this whole day to start working on that.

And then the very next day, and this gets back a little bit to legalization, the next day, and to MAPS's political strategy, the next day we experimented with ketamine. All right. So in my ketamine experience, somehow or other, I was above and behind Hitler because, you know, the Holocaust had been this animating idea for me my whole life. So I'm above and behind Hitler.

And then the very next day, and this gets back a little bit to legalization, the next day, and to MAPS's political strategy, the next day we experimented with ketamine. All right. So in my ketamine experience, somehow or other, I was above and behind Hitler because, you know, the Holocaust had been this animating idea for me my whole life. So I'm above and behind Hitler.

And then the very next day, and this gets back a little bit to legalization, the next day, and to MAPS's political strategy, the next day we experimented with ketamine. All right. So in my ketamine experience, somehow or other, I was above and behind Hitler because, you know, the Holocaust had been this animating idea for me my whole life. So I'm above and behind Hitler.

Ketamine gives you a bit of remove, like you're not quite there. So I felt that I was safe, but I was watching him give a speech like to these rallies where you have, you know, enormous numbers of Germans. And I was thinking, how do I get into his head so he doesn't want to murder everybody, doesn't want to kill the Jews, doesn't want to have this war? How do I get into his head?

Ketamine gives you a bit of remove, like you're not quite there. So I felt that I was safe, but I was watching him give a speech like to these rallies where you have, you know, enormous numbers of Germans. And I was thinking, how do I get into his head so he doesn't want to murder everybody, doesn't want to kill the Jews, doesn't want to have this war? How do I get into his head?

Ketamine gives you a bit of remove, like you're not quite there. So I felt that I was safe, but I was watching him give a speech like to these rallies where you have, you know, enormous numbers of Germans. And I was thinking, how do I get into his head so he doesn't want to murder everybody, doesn't want to kill the Jews, doesn't want to have this war? How do I get into his head?

And I felt this panic rising. And it was like bubbles, like I was underwater. And I felt that the bubbles of my fear, if they broke the surface, I wouldn't be able to, I'd have to look away. I couldn't deal with it. And then I realized that one of the beauties of ketamine is that it doesn't interfere with your respiration. You can breathe.

And I felt this panic rising. And it was like bubbles, like I was underwater. And I felt that the bubbles of my fear, if they broke the surface, I wouldn't be able to, I'd have to look away. I couldn't deal with it. And then I realized that one of the beauties of ketamine is that it doesn't interfere with your respiration. You can breathe.

And I felt this panic rising. And it was like bubbles, like I was underwater. And I felt that the bubbles of my fear, if they broke the surface, I wouldn't be able to, I'd have to look away. I couldn't deal with it. And then I realized that one of the beauties of ketamine is that it doesn't interfere with your respiration. You can breathe.

So I started breathing deeply, which is a really important way to kind of ground yourself in difficult experiences of all kinds, psychedelics or not. So I started really breathing. And then I was able to go back and watch. And what I saw was this Heil Hitler salute. And then I saw everybody doing it back to him.

So I started breathing deeply, which is a really important way to kind of ground yourself in difficult experiences of all kinds, psychedelics or not. So I started really breathing. And then I was able to go back and watch. And what I saw was this Heil Hitler salute. And then I saw everybody doing it back to him.

So I started breathing deeply, which is a really important way to kind of ground yourself in difficult experiences of all kinds, psychedelics or not. So I started really breathing. And then I was able to go back and watch. And what I saw was this Heil Hitler salute. And then I saw everybody doing it back to him.

And I got this sense, because Hitler was able to help people feel that they were all together, the German nation, that they were all part of something bigger. And so it felt like he's pushing this energy out with the Heil Hitler salute, and then everybody is pushing it back to him. So it felt like the one to the many and the many to the one.

And I got this sense, because Hitler was able to help people feel that they were all together, the German nation, that they were all part of something bigger. And so it felt like he's pushing this energy out with the Heil Hitler salute, and then everybody is pushing it back to him. So it felt like the one to the many and the many to the one.

And I got this sense, because Hitler was able to help people feel that they were all together, the German nation, that they were all part of something bigger. And so it felt like he's pushing this energy out with the Heil Hitler salute, and then everybody is pushing it back to him. So it felt like the one to the many and the many to the one.

And then it was like vibrations going up and up and up, like this kind of unity between him and the people. And it just was terrifying. And then I realized that there's no way I can get into his head. Like you're saying, the psychopaths that are often politicians, that they're getting so much out of it. But it's the people giving away their power that I thought that's where the solution has to be.

And then it was like vibrations going up and up and up, like this kind of unity between him and the people. And it just was terrifying. And then I realized that there's no way I can get into his head. Like you're saying, the psychopaths that are often politicians, that they're getting so much out of it. But it's the people giving away their power that I thought that's where the solution has to be.