Rick Hanson

Well, can I ask you a question?

So feel free to evade my question.

So when you look out at American politics these days,

And we can see similar tendencies in other areas there.

You, I think, are probably toward the liberal end of the spectrum.

It doesn't matter.

You could be at the other end of the spectrum in your views.

How do you personally practice with people that, from your standpoint, are morally corrupt and doing terrible things that hurt people?

To bring it home.

I find this is one of the most interesting kind of questions when you get into a talking head, especially dudes.

Okay, that's great.

Love your ideas.

Where do you

There's this classic line in psychoanalysis, the client doesn't need a new idea, they need a new experience.

So I think getting at the experience there is really useful.

I just kind of wonder, Josh, with everything you know, what do you do inside yourself about this?

Do you, I mean, for me, it's been helpful to wish people well, minimally, I wish that they not be harmed.

Right.

So that's,

wish there's a moral motivation there and then it's been interesting to realize that again based on some neuroscience that if we can warm up the circuitry as it were inside ourselves by starting with feeling cared about ourselves we're part of a group even if we're affiliation is pretty minimal in our softball league or team and so forth uh we're cared about ourselves