Rick Jordan

From founding it 15 years ago and bringing on the first employee, the very first one in 2011, who actually stayed with me through this entire thing, but then left in the middle of the stuff.

It was another hard lesson for me.

And seeing that take place, it was just, I get it.

I understand why everybody is in the place that they are.

And at the same time, maybe I should take some cues from them in this next run.

If I'm not in a good place, the organization won't be in a good place.

I'm picking up what you're throwing down a little bit.

You probably wrote checks that you probably shouldn't have written.

totally yeah because you were trying to save it or do what you can you felt like it was altruistic it's the right thing to do but it actually probably wasn't for you yeah not that you're being selfish you're trying to do what you felt it was the right thing but at the same time it's not it's an interesting place to be when you've built something like you did and it's always on you i've never gone public and don't plan to like anything that i've done i've

I intentionally kept it in my own circle, my own failure, my own wins.

I mean, I've got teams and all that.

It would be a struggle for me.

I could write that check, but I'm not going to because I can't.

Like, that's just not for certain things.

And unless you've done and been in those levels, you don't quite understand what the hell you're talking about.

No, you just write the check.

No, no, actually, you don't write the check.

That feels right, but it's not right because the company has to stand on its own.

I was coaching a friend of mine the other day for the same exact thing.

And it was like, yeah, he's like, I pulled money.