Rick Perry

My going from hard no on any psychedelic drugs that could be used in any way to now being what I humorously refer to as the Johnny Appleseed of Ibogaine is to your point.

Be open.

Be willing to say you were wrong.

I know my wife would like to hear me do that more often.

But, hey, if you don't mind, I want to take a minute and talk about how far this movement has come.

Brian talked about Americans for Ibogaine and our ambassadors all across the country and the growth that we've seen in this.

And I want to give you one example to your point that five years ago, if you had had an institution that had its own reputation dealing with brain health and brain science and those kind of things, they would have just kind of moved you off to the side and said, you know, no thanks.

But the...

Center for Brain Health in Dallas.

This is an extraordinary institution that's connected to the University of Texas, Dallas.

Matter of fact, it's just next door to UT Southwestern, which is one of the great medical facilities in the world, UT Southwestern.

And Dr. Sandy Chapman heads up

the Center for Brain Health.

And they've done some great work.

We went up and presented to her, I don't know, probably 60 to 90 days ago.

And there was another organization called Forward...

Forward intent.

Forward intent.

Just a beautiful young man and his wife, Alex Duran, and his wife who have funded an effort.

And what they're doing with their resources, they're sending –