Rick Ross

He was converting semi-automatic weapons to fully automatic. He was breaking the law regarding firearms. And so the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms investigated him. They called me. They interviewed the young man that I deprogrammed.

He was converting semi-automatic weapons to fully automatic. He was breaking the law regarding firearms. And so the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms investigated him. They called me. They interviewed the young man that I deprogrammed.

It was their interview with that young man that I deprogrammed and in part his testimony that led to an affidavit that was then the basis for a warrant for the search of the Davidian compound and a warrant for the arrest of David Koresh. So the BATF went there. I was shocked at the way they went.

It was their interview with that young man that I deprogrammed and in part his testimony that led to an affidavit that was then the basis for a warrant for the search of the Davidian compound and a warrant for the arrest of David Koresh. So the BATF went there. I was shocked at the way they went.

It was their interview with that young man that I deprogrammed and in part his testimony that led to an affidavit that was then the basis for a warrant for the search of the Davidian compound and a warrant for the arrest of David Koresh. So the BATF went there. I was shocked at the way they went.

I mean, we had warned them about how many weapons and how huge the stockpile was and how militant the group was and how totally, really... psychopath like David Koresh was. And the BATF just raided the group in a way that shocked me. I mean, they just went in like it was any normal raid, which it wasn't. And of course, it was a gun battle. People were killed. Davidians died.

I mean, we had warned them about how many weapons and how huge the stockpile was and how militant the group was and how totally, really... psychopath like David Koresh was. And the BATF just raided the group in a way that shocked me. I mean, they just went in like it was any normal raid, which it wasn't. And of course, it was a gun battle. People were killed. Davidians died.

I mean, we had warned them about how many weapons and how huge the stockpile was and how militant the group was and how totally, really... psychopath like David Koresh was. And the BATF just raided the group in a way that shocked me. I mean, they just went in like it was any normal raid, which it wasn't. And of course, it was a gun battle. People were killed. Davidians died.

Federal agents were killed in the process. And then they created a perimeter around the compound, and there was a 51-day standoff. 51 days? 51 days. And during that time, I worked for CBS News and I was interviewed by the FBI and by their hostage negotiator that they had.

Federal agents were killed in the process. And then they created a perimeter around the compound, and there was a 51-day standoff. 51 days? 51 days. And during that time, I worked for CBS News and I was interviewed by the FBI and by their hostage negotiator that they had.

Federal agents were killed in the process. And then they created a perimeter around the compound, and there was a 51-day standoff. 51 days? 51 days. And during that time, I worked for CBS News and I was interviewed by the FBI and by their hostage negotiator that they had.

But the problem that the FBI had at that time, which I don't think they have now, because they learned from Waco and subsequent situations, that... This was not a conventional hostage situation, that the Davidians were not hostages. They were programmed. They were completely and totally subservient to David Koresh, and that that dynamic needed to be understood.

But the problem that the FBI had at that time, which I don't think they have now, because they learned from Waco and subsequent situations, that... This was not a conventional hostage situation, that the Davidians were not hostages. They were programmed. They were completely and totally subservient to David Koresh, and that that dynamic needed to be understood.

But the problem that the FBI had at that time, which I don't think they have now, because they learned from Waco and subsequent situations, that... This was not a conventional hostage situation, that the Davidians were not hostages. They were programmed. They were completely and totally subservient to David Koresh, and that that dynamic needed to be understood.

And so much of what I suggested to the FBI They did not do some of the things I suggested that they do, they did. For example, David Koresh who said, I am Jesus, I am the Messiah. They said, well, Jesus loved children. And he said, suffer not the little children to come unto me. So would you let some of the children out? And David Koresh did let out 21 children.

And so much of what I suggested to the FBI They did not do some of the things I suggested that they do, they did. For example, David Koresh who said, I am Jesus, I am the Messiah. They said, well, Jesus loved children. And he said, suffer not the little children to come unto me. So would you let some of the children out? And David Koresh did let out 21 children.

And so much of what I suggested to the FBI They did not do some of the things I suggested that they do, they did. For example, David Koresh who said, I am Jesus, I am the Messiah. They said, well, Jesus loved children. And he said, suffer not the little children to come unto me. So would you let some of the children out? And David Koresh did let out 21 children.

and he let out some of the elderly people, people that he thought were essentially a burden or expendable. He kept most of the Davidians in. Now, then the FBI set up these big, loudspeakers around the compound. And they would keep the Davidians up at night. They would blast them with rock and roll music, rabbits screaming, things that probably fit within the typical hostage negotiator playbook.

and he let out some of the elderly people, people that he thought were essentially a burden or expendable. He kept most of the Davidians in. Now, then the FBI set up these big, loudspeakers around the compound. And they would keep the Davidians up at night. They would blast them with rock and roll music, rabbits screaming, things that probably fit within the typical hostage negotiator playbook.

and he let out some of the elderly people, people that he thought were essentially a burden or expendable. He kept most of the Davidians in. Now, then the FBI set up these big, loudspeakers around the compound. And they would keep the Davidians up at night. They would blast them with rock and roll music, rabbits screaming, things that probably fit within the typical hostage negotiator playbook.