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Rick Ross

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
996 total appearances

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The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

But they did not understand. They were dealing with a cult. They were dealing with cult members. And what I suggested was that they give them every opportunity to get sleep, to be rested, so they could think more clearly.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

But they did not understand. They were dealing with a cult. They were dealing with cult members. And what I suggested was that they give them every opportunity to get sleep, to be rested, so they could think more clearly.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

But they did not understand. They were dealing with a cult. They were dealing with cult members. And what I suggested was that they give them every opportunity to get sleep, to be rested, so they could think more clearly.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

And then maybe during the nine to five hours, bring in family and let the family talk to their loved ones through those loudspeakers, because David Koresh was controlling all communication in that compound. when families wanted to visit someone, you had to go to visitation in the compound. And there would be Koresh or a delegated person that would be monitoring your visit with your family member.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

And then maybe during the nine to five hours, bring in family and let the family talk to their loved ones through those loudspeakers, because David Koresh was controlling all communication in that compound. when families wanted to visit someone, you had to go to visitation in the compound. And there would be Koresh or a delegated person that would be monitoring your visit with your family member.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

And then maybe during the nine to five hours, bring in family and let the family talk to their loved ones through those loudspeakers, because David Koresh was controlling all communication in that compound. when families wanted to visit someone, you had to go to visitation in the compound. And there would be Koresh or a delegated person that would be monitoring your visit with your family member.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

There were only two phones in the compound. One was an old gigantic mobile phone. Hard to believe how big those were. And the other was a hard line. He controlled both. He listened to all conversations. So what I suggested to the FBI, and they did not do this, was use the loudspeakers so the families can speak to their loved ones.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

There were only two phones in the compound. One was an old gigantic mobile phone. Hard to believe how big those were. And the other was a hard line. He controlled both. He listened to all conversations. So what I suggested to the FBI, and they did not do this, was use the loudspeakers so the families can speak to their loved ones.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

There were only two phones in the compound. One was an old gigantic mobile phone. Hard to believe how big those were. And the other was a hard line. He controlled both. He listened to all conversations. So what I suggested to the FBI, and they did not do this, was use the loudspeakers so the families can speak to their loved ones.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

Kind of like, almost like radio-free Davidian, you know, where there could be communication that he did not control. They did not do that. And then I also told them... please don't act aggressively on the perimeter because that that basically validates his narrative, that you're Satan, that you are the army of Satan come to attack the people of God.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

Kind of like, almost like radio-free Davidian, you know, where there could be communication that he did not control. They did not do that. And then I also told them... please don't act aggressively on the perimeter because that that basically validates his narrative, that you're Satan, that you are the army of Satan come to attack the people of God.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

Kind of like, almost like radio-free Davidian, you know, where there could be communication that he did not control. They did not do that. And then I also told them... please don't act aggressively on the perimeter because that that basically validates his narrative, that you're Satan, that you are the army of Satan come to attack the people of God.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

What you want to do is make yourselves as peaceful and non-threatening as possible to undercut his narrative, which they did not do. In fairness to the FBI, they had never dealt with a cult like this before, and it was their first experience. And they learn from it painfully.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

What you want to do is make yourselves as peaceful and non-threatening as possible to undercut his narrative, which they did not do. In fairness to the FBI, they had never dealt with a cult like this before, and it was their first experience. And they learn from it painfully.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

What you want to do is make yourselves as peaceful and non-threatening as possible to undercut his narrative, which they did not do. In fairness to the FBI, they had never dealt with a cult like this before, and it was their first experience. And they learn from it painfully.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

But in the final analysis, I don't think it was going to end any way other than it ended, which is how David Koresh wanted it to end. And he did not want to live. He was like Jim Jones. He wanted to go out with his followers on his throne, king to the bitter end. That's how David Koresh left the world, ruling over his flock in the compound, just like Jim Jones at Jonestown.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

But in the final analysis, I don't think it was going to end any way other than it ended, which is how David Koresh wanted it to end. And he did not want to live. He was like Jim Jones. He wanted to go out with his followers on his throne, king to the bitter end. That's how David Koresh left the world, ruling over his flock in the compound, just like Jim Jones at Jonestown.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

But in the final analysis, I don't think it was going to end any way other than it ended, which is how David Koresh wanted it to end. And he did not want to live. He was like Jim Jones. He wanted to go out with his followers on his throne, king to the bitter end. That's how David Koresh left the world, ruling over his flock in the compound, just like Jim Jones at Jonestown.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

Could you go into Jim Jones? Yeah, Jim Jones was at one time a very popular figure in San Francisco. He was considered one of the leading lights of social action in the Bay Area. He was very connected to the Democratic Party, the Democratic leaders, Governor Jerry Brown, Assemblyman Willie Brown. When Rosalind Carter visited San Francisco, she did a photo op with Jim Jones.

The Shawn Ryan Show
#150 Rick Ross - Inside the Dark World of Cults

Could you go into Jim Jones? Yeah, Jim Jones was at one time a very popular figure in San Francisco. He was considered one of the leading lights of social action in the Bay Area. He was very connected to the Democratic Party, the Democratic leaders, Governor Jerry Brown, Assemblyman Willie Brown. When Rosalind Carter visited San Francisco, she did a photo op with Jim Jones.