Rick Rubin

I think it's a natural human thought.

I don't know if it was always the case.

Because you don't have that at all.

Yeah, I think the best artists tend not to have that or find a way to turn it off.

Really?

And a big part of my job with artists is helping them turn it off.

It's like we're not...

We're not thinking about singles.

We're not thinking about chart position.

We're not thinking about anything, but making the most beautiful, honest, true thing we can.

And when I say honest and true, it could be fiction.

Do you know what I'm saying?

It's the thing that touches us.

and excites us and surprises us, which is also interesting.

The fact that we can make something that surprises us happens every day.

I would say it comes down to,

like a personal reaction to something.

If I, if I gave you two different foods and I asked you to taste them, you wouldn't have a hard time telling me which one you liked.

If you really liked one and didn't like the other.

So if you had people around you saying, no, but this other one that you don't like, that's the good one.