Rick Rubin: Making Art as a Devotional Act to God
episodePreviously titled “Rick Rubin: The Spiritual Secret to Limitless Creativity” — renamed by the publisher on Sep 1, 2026
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What vulnerability does Rick Rubin reveal about his creative process?
Loman loppuminen ja pakkaaminen voi tuntua ikävältä. Jopa niin ikävältä, että laukkujen kasaaminen oven eteen tuntuu hyvältä ajatukselta. Säärebori. Lomia, joiden et soisi loppuvan. When we were going on a winter holiday, we were in a sleeping car in the train. And there was also a food truck that gave us all the food and also ice cream. Then I went on an adventure in different cars and there was another child. It was also going on a winter holiday and I thought that we will probably have a friend when we both like snowboarding. It was a really nice trip. Freedom travels on rails. VR. On a joint journey. Ikea on winter. Ikea on winter. Ikea on winter.
How does Rick Rubin define making art as a devotional act?
Ikea on winter.
Welcome back, everyone, to the School of Greatness. Very excited about our guest. We have the inspiring Rick Rubin in the house. Good to see you, sir, and thank you for being here. You have an incredible journey, incredible story, and you've done some amazing things. You're a nine-time Grammy-winning producer, named one of Time Magazine's 100 Most Influential People in the World. You've got a number one New York Times bestselling book, which has just taken over the world in a powerful way. And I've got so many questions I want to ask you about this. But you've also worked with some of the most influential artists of our generation, which is really cool. Just to sit and be with you to talk about some of this.
Some of the people like Red Hot Chili Peppers, Johnny Cash, Jay-Z. Tom Petty, Anna Del Rey, so many Adele, the Chicks, Kanye West, Lady Gaga, so many incredible influential artists of our time. I watched part of your documentary series and I just am fascinated by the way you think and by the way you move throughout space and time. I love that you're an avid meditator.
What insights does Rick share about overcoming creative blocks?
and that you walk around barefoot pretty much every single day. I think you had to wear shoes here today just to enter the building, but otherwise 99% of your life is barefoot. And something that I feel like a lot of people struggle with is tapping into their creativity. And I think a lot of people are born with an artistic expression inside of them, but then it gets diminished over time. A lot of people, not everyone. And I'm curious, do you feel like, when have you felt like you've been most insecure in your creative endeavors? Because you seem so confident, you have hit after hit, everything you touch turns into gold seemingly, but I'm also assuming that not everything works out the way you envision.
Do you ever feel insecure with your artistic expression or are you always confident?
I'm confident with artistic expression because my only goal is to make something that I like. And I know that I can keep working on it until I like it. So in some ways, there's no pressure because the goal is to make the thing that I like. I know what I like. If I don't like it, I keep working and eventually we get to a place where we like it.
Yeah. Do you ever face the inner critic of, well, what if other people don't like this?
How does Rick Rubin view the relationship between success and personal fulfillment?
No, I don't consider them at all. Really? Yeah. Something I say in the book is that the audience comes last. And I believe that. I'm not... I'm not making it for them. I'm making it for me. And it turns out that when you make something truly for yourself, you're doing the best thing you possibly can for the audience. So much of why, if you go to the movies, so many big movies, just not good. It's because they're They're not being made by a person who cares about it. They're being made by people who are trying to make something that they think someone else is going to like. And that's not how art works. That's something else.
What does Rick Rubin believe is the hidden cost of success?
It's not art. That's commerce. So if we're making art, it's almost like a diary entry. So can I be concerned that someone else might not like my diary entry? It doesn't make sense. It has nothing to do with them. My diary entry has nothing to do with anyone else. So everything we make as artists are essentially diary entries.
That's interesting. And it's also, most people never want the world to see their diary, right?
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Chapters
8 chapters
1
What vulnerability does Rick Rubin reveal about his creative process?
0:03–1:09
2
How does Rick Rubin define making art as a devotional act?
1:09–2:19
3
What insights does Rick share about overcoming creative blocks?
2:19–3:47
4
How does Rick Rubin view the relationship between success and personal fulfillment?
3:47–4:35
5
What does Rick Rubin believe is the hidden cost of success?
4:35–5:42
6
How does Rick approach the concept of greatness in art?
5:42–6:29
7
What practices does Rick suggest for tapping into creativity?
6:29–7:11
8
How has meditation influenced Rick Rubin's life and work?
7:11–1:24:10
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