Rick Spence

You know, put people in prison for that. They're otherwise executed. But in certain circumstances, killing is one of those things that you need to be able to do. So what he felt he was being told in that case is that, you know, once you enter this realm, the same sort of moral rules that apply in general British society do not apply. And if you're squeamish about it, you won't fit in.

You have to be able to do those things.

You have to be able to do those things.

You have to be able to do those things.

Let's take an example from American intelligence, from the CIA, 1950s, 1960s, into the 1970s, MKUltra. that is a secret program, which was involved with what is generally categorized as mind control, which really means messing with people's heads. And what was the goal of that?

Let's take an example from American intelligence, from the CIA, 1950s, 1960s, into the 1970s, MKUltra. that is a secret program, which was involved with what is generally categorized as mind control, which really means messing with people's heads. And what was the goal of that?

Let's take an example from American intelligence, from the CIA, 1950s, 1960s, into the 1970s, MKUltra. that is a secret program, which was involved with what is generally categorized as mind control, which really means messing with people's heads. And what was the goal of that?

Well, there seemed to have been lots of goals, but there was an FBI memo that was, I recently acquired, quite legally, by the way, it's declassified, but it's from 1949. So this is only two years after the CIA came into existence. And it's an FBI memo because the FBI, of course, very curious what the CIA is up to.

Well, there seemed to have been lots of goals, but there was an FBI memo that was, I recently acquired, quite legally, by the way, it's declassified, but it's from 1949. So this is only two years after the CIA came into existence. And it's an FBI memo because the FBI, of course, very curious what the CIA is up to.

Well, there seemed to have been lots of goals, but there was an FBI memo that was, I recently acquired, quite legally, by the way, it's declassified, but it's from 1949. So this is only two years after the CIA came into existence. And it's an FBI memo because the FBI, of course, very curious what the CIA is up to.

And the FBI are not part of this meeting, but they have someone in... They're sort of spying on what's going on. So there was a meeting which was held in a private apartment in New York. So it's not held in any kind of... It's essentially never really happened because it's in somebody's house, but... And there are a couple of guys there from the CIA. One of them is Cleve Baxter.

And the FBI are not part of this meeting, but they have someone in... They're sort of spying on what's going on. So there was a meeting which was held in a private apartment in New York. So it's not held in any kind of... It's essentially never really happened because it's in somebody's house, but... And there are a couple of guys there from the CIA. One of them is Cleve Baxter.

And the FBI are not part of this meeting, but they have someone in... They're sort of spying on what's going on. So there was a meeting which was held in a private apartment in New York. So it's not held in any kind of... It's essentially never really happened because it's in somebody's house, but... And there are a couple of guys there from the CIA. One of them is Cleve Baxter.

Cleve Baxter is the great godfather of the lie detector. Pretty much everything that we know or think we know about lie detectors today, you owe to Cleve Baxter. He's also the same guy that thought that plants could feel, but which somehow was a derivative of his work on lie detectors. So these guys are there, and they're giving a talk to some military and other personnel.

Cleve Baxter is the great godfather of the lie detector. Pretty much everything that we know or think we know about lie detectors today, you owe to Cleve Baxter. He's also the same guy that thought that plants could feel, but which somehow was a derivative of his work on lie detectors. So these guys are there, and they're giving a talk to some military and other personnel.

Cleve Baxter is the great godfather of the lie detector. Pretty much everything that we know or think we know about lie detectors today, you owe to Cleve Baxter. He's also the same guy that thought that plants could feel, but which somehow was a derivative of his work on lie detectors. So these guys are there, and they're giving a talk to some military and other personnel.

And there are certain parts of the document which are, of course, redacted, but you can figure out what it is that they're talking about. And they're talking about hypnotic suggestion and all the wonderful things that you can potentially do with hypnotic suggestion.

And there are certain parts of the document which are, of course, redacted, but you can figure out what it is that they're talking about. And they're talking about hypnotic suggestion and all the wonderful things that you can potentially do with hypnotic suggestion.

And there are certain parts of the document which are, of course, redacted, but you can figure out what it is that they're talking about. And they're talking about hypnotic suggestion and all the wonderful things that you can potentially do with hypnotic suggestion.

And two of the things they note is that one of the things we could potentially do is erase memories from people's minds and implant false memories. That would be really keen to do that. Just imagine how that would be done. So here to me is the interesting point. They're talking about this in 1949. MKUltra does not come along until really 1953, although there are all sorts of artichoke and others.