Rick Spence
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And in bold type, he indicates the paragraphs, but more often sentences or phrases that appear to be identical from the Jolie work. And they're just scattered throughout it. There's no particular rhyme or reason to it. You don't plagiarize that way. I mean, who does that? It's sentence here, sentence there.
Which has led to a peculiar theory of mine, which of course I will have to expound upon, which is that I think that the original author of the protocols was the same Maurice Joly. I think what someone stumbled across was a work which he wrote and never published and which he just drew. It's exactly what someone would do working from your own kind of material.
Because I've written things and then taken what I've written and then sort of repackaged that into something else. Sudden seer, sudden seer. Yeah, and the same sort of thing comes out. Only sort of bits and pieces of it remain. So why would Jolie have done that? Jolie was, we're talking about a man whose career basically spanned the 1850s to 1870s. He's an obscure figure.
I'm not even totally sure he existed. I mean, but it's one of those things you go looking for him.
But my hunch is that that's adopted from a French version. First of all, they're constantly harping on Freemasons, which wasn't nearly as a big idea as it there. If you go back to France in the 1890s, there's some big scandals. Well, there's the Dreyfus scandal. We got that. All right. Where you've got a Jewish officer on trial for being a traitor. All right.
So that was – so you bring in the whole Jewish element, Jews is disloyal, Dreyfus case, 1894 – Earlier, you had the Panama scandal, which was this huge investment scandal when the Panama Canal Company in Paris collapsed. And again, many of the major players in that were Jewish financiers. And then you've got the Taxel hoax. So the Taxel hoax was the work of this guy.
His real name was, I think, Jogon Paget. He was kind of a French journalist. He started out writing porn. So, I mean, he wrote things like Sex Lives of the Popes and, you know, the Erotic Bible and various things of that kind. He was a Catholic, broke with the Catholic Church, wrote bad stuff about the Popes.
And apparently became a Freemason for a while, and then supposedly recanted his evil ways, went back to the church, and then under the name Leo Taxel began writing these whole series of articles basically arguing that there was a Masonic satanic conspiracy run, by the way, by an American, Albert Pike. Mm-hmm. And this also included child sacrifice.
It's got Pizzagate, as is wealth, by a high priestess, Diana Vaughn. And so there's like child sacrifice, you know, weird, roby, bohemian grove stuff. And the Freemasons are devil worshipers going back to the Knights Templars. And so there's a thing called the Devil in the 19th Century and the Secrets of Freemasonry. And this became a bestseller in France.
So France is just obsessed with all these kinds of conspiracies. So evil satanic Freemasons, evil Jewish financiers, Dreyfus, this is the brew where all of this comes. I want to figure out how Freemasons and Jews get connected together. France is the place where this happens. Now, Taxel, or Jogan Pagé, eventually pulls another interesting thing in this.
Around 1897, critics argue that he's making this stuff up and demand that he present Diana Vaughan, supposed satanic high priestess, toddler killer. And he says, oh, we're going to have a press conference. She'll appear and say all of this stuff as she returns to the church and possibly becomes a nun.
And so people show up, you know, high figures in the Catholic Church shows up, and he does, no Diane Yvonne, and Dugan Pesce goes, it's all a hoax. I made it up. You're all a bunch of idiots for believing it. Okay, you, you, members of the church especially, just what gullible, you know, morons you are. And that's it. He confesses it.
To this day, however, you will find people who will insist that it's actually true because they desperately want it to be true.
Mm-hmm.
But this is, I think, the milieu that, I like that word apparently, that this comes out of. And this is this whole kind of unhealthy mix. So France, to me, is the only place that in the decade preceding it, that something like this would be concocted.
So it was either created by some sort of unknown person there, but I still think that even though he dies in like 1879, that in Maurice Joly's troubled career, he went from being an opponent of French Emperor Napoleon III, which is what the whole dialogue was written against, And then he was, for a time, a close political ally of a French politician by the name of Adolphe Cremieux.
So Adolphe Cremieux, what's he got going for him? Well, he was kind of a radical politician. He was an opponent of Napoleon III. He was a Freemason. Oh, and he was Jewish. In fact, at one point, I think he was actually the head both of the Scottish right in France and an important figure in the Alliance Israélite, the Jewish organization in France.
So he was publicly, very prominently Jewish and Masonic. So someone else who would have linked them together. Jolie, as he did with visually everyone, this is a guy whose life largely consisted of dual threats and fistfights. So he gets angry at Cormier. And it's exactly the type of thing that he might write to vent his spleen about it. But he died.
probably a suicide, that's kind of difficult to tell. In obscurity, his son seems to have inherited most of his literary works. And his son then became a journalist to work for newspapers in France in the 1890s, but was also associated with some people on the fringes of the Okhrana or the Russian press. in France.
So one of the little things that had happened by this time is that France and Russia had become allies, even though their political systems are completely incompatible. And so the Russians were using money to subsidize French newspapers that were championing the alliance between the two, Russian meddling. Now, they're just paying to have the right kind of newspapers come out.
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