Rick Spence

And again, it's not, I think, the question as to whether that is possible or whether it was done. although I suspect that both of those are true, but that you would try to do it. Then imagine the mischief that comes out of that.

And again, it's not, I think, the question as to whether that is possible or whether it was done. although I suspect that both of those are true, but that you would try to do it. Then imagine the mischief that comes out of that.

And again, it's not, I think, the question as to whether that is possible or whether it was done. although I suspect that both of those are true, but that you would try to do it. Then imagine the mischief that comes out of that.

And one of the big complaints from a legal standpoint about MKUltra and the rest is that you were having medical experiments, essentially, being carried out on people without their knowledge and against their will, which is, you know, a no-no.

And one of the big complaints from a legal standpoint about MKUltra and the rest is that you were having medical experiments, essentially, being carried out on people without their knowledge and against their will, which is, you know, a no-no.

And one of the big complaints from a legal standpoint about MKUltra and the rest is that you were having medical experiments, essentially, being carried out on people without their knowledge and against their will, which is, you know, a no-no.

Well, one thing that was learned, and the reason why most MKUltra and similar records were destroyed on order in the early 70s, around the time the CIA became under a certain amount of scrutiny. The mid-'70s were not a good time for the agency because you had the church committee breathing down their neck. You had all of these assassins. People were asking lots of questions.

Well, one thing that was learned, and the reason why most MKUltra and similar records were destroyed on order in the early 70s, around the time the CIA became under a certain amount of scrutiny. The mid-'70s were not a good time for the agency because you had the church committee breathing down their neck. You had all of these assassins. People were asking lots of questions.

Well, one thing that was learned, and the reason why most MKUltra and similar records were destroyed on order in the early 70s, around the time the CIA became under a certain amount of scrutiny. The mid-'70s were not a good time for the agency because you had the church committee breathing down their neck. You had all of these assassins. People were asking lots of questions.

And so you need to dump this stuff because you were committing crimes against American citizens. So let's eradicate it. And the important lesson to be learned is that never do this type of thing again where at least in any way in which the agency's direct fingerprints are placed on it. You can pay people. You can subsidize research. You can set up venture capital firms. You got plenty of money.

And so you need to dump this stuff because you were committing crimes against American citizens. So let's eradicate it. And the important lesson to be learned is that never do this type of thing again where at least in any way in which the agency's direct fingerprints are placed on it. You can pay people. You can subsidize research. You can set up venture capital firms. You got plenty of money.

And so you need to dump this stuff because you were committing crimes against American citizens. So let's eradicate it. And the important lesson to be learned is that never do this type of thing again where at least in any way in which the agency's direct fingerprints are placed on it. You can pay people. You can subsidize research. You can set up venture capital firms. You got plenty of money.

And you can funnel that money into the hands of people who will carry out this research privately. So if something goes wrong, you have perfect deniability.

And you can funnel that money into the hands of people who will carry out this research privately. So if something goes wrong, you have perfect deniability.

And you can funnel that money into the hands of people who will carry out this research privately. So if something goes wrong, you have perfect deniability.

Well, let's look at what Epstein was doing. He was a He was a businessman who then also developed a very lucrative sideline in being a high-level procurer, basically in supplying young girls.

Well, let's look at what Epstein was doing. He was a He was a businessman who then also developed a very lucrative sideline in being a high-level procurer, basically in supplying young girls.

Well, let's look at what Epstein was doing. He was a He was a businessman who then also developed a very lucrative sideline in being a high-level procurer, basically in supplying young girls.

And he also filmed much of that activity. I think...

And he also filmed much of that activity. I think...