Rick Spence

And he also filmed much of that activity. I think...

His partner in this, Ghislaine, and I hope I'm pronouncing her name correctly. I think it's Ghislaine. Ghislaine? Well, I've heard it both ways. Ghislaine or Ghislaine, whichever it may be. I think her argument at one point was that, well, we did this to protect ourselves. But this type of thing has been done before. There's nothing new about this.

His partner in this, Ghislaine, and I hope I'm pronouncing her name correctly. I think it's Ghislaine. Ghislaine? Well, I've heard it both ways. Ghislaine or Ghislaine, whichever it may be. I think her argument at one point was that, well, we did this to protect ourselves. But this type of thing has been done before. There's nothing new about this.

His partner in this, Ghislaine, and I hope I'm pronouncing her name correctly. I think it's Ghislaine. Ghislaine? Well, I've heard it both ways. Ghislaine or Ghislaine, whichever it may be. I think her argument at one point was that, well, we did this to protect ourselves. But this type of thing has been done before. There's nothing new about this.

Getting influential people in compromising situations and filming them. I could give you another historical example of that. In late 1920s, actually early 1930s, just pre-Nazi Berlin, there was a very prominent sort of would-be psychic and occultist by the name of Erich Jan Hannesen. He had a private yacht. I think it was called the Seven Sins. And he hosted parties.

Getting influential people in compromising situations and filming them. I could give you another historical example of that. In late 1920s, actually early 1930s, just pre-Nazi Berlin, there was a very prominent sort of would-be psychic and occultist by the name of Erich Jan Hannesen. He had a private yacht. I think it was called the Seven Sins. And he hosted parties.

Getting influential people in compromising situations and filming them. I could give you another historical example of that. In late 1920s, actually early 1930s, just pre-Nazi Berlin, there was a very prominent sort of would-be psychic and occultist by the name of Erich Jan Hannesen. He had a private yacht. I think it was called the Seven Sins. And he hosted parties.

He also had a whole club called the Palace of the Occult, which hosted parties where things went on. And there were cameras everywhere. He filmed important people. You know, guys like the brown shirt chief of Berlin in various states of undress and sexual congress. And he did that for the purposes of blackmail. So in Epstein's case, he is a procurer of young girls to wealthy men, largely.

He also had a whole club called the Palace of the Occult, which hosted parties where things went on. And there were cameras everywhere. He filmed important people. You know, guys like the brown shirt chief of Berlin in various states of undress and sexual congress. And he did that for the purposes of blackmail. So in Epstein's case, he is a procurer of young girls to wealthy men, largely.

He also had a whole club called the Palace of the Occult, which hosted parties where things went on. And there were cameras everywhere. He filmed important people. You know, guys like the brown shirt chief of Berlin in various states of undress and sexual congress. And he did that for the purposes of blackmail. So in Epstein's case, he is a procurer of young girls to wealthy men, largely.

And many of those events were recorded. Now, even if it wasn't his intention to use them for blackmail, think of what someone else could do, because people know about this. So you can raise a question, is this not, you know, Epstein is just kind of a greedy pervert. But through his greedy perversion, he's now collecting information that could be useful. Who could that be useful to?

And many of those events were recorded. Now, even if it wasn't his intention to use them for blackmail, think of what someone else could do, because people know about this. So you can raise a question, is this not, you know, Epstein is just kind of a greedy pervert. But through his greedy perversion, he's now collecting information that could be useful. Who could that be useful to?

And many of those events were recorded. Now, even if it wasn't his intention to use them for blackmail, think of what someone else could do, because people know about this. So you can raise a question, is this not, you know, Epstein is just kind of a greedy pervert. But through his greedy perversion, he's now collecting information that could be useful. Who could that be useful to?

Who would like dirt on Prince Andrew? Think of all the people who were there. And these, you know, there were important people who You know, went to Lolita Island. So if it isn't Epstein directly, he might have been being, I'm not trying to let him off the hook because I have anything for him. He was either running his own blackmail business or someone was using him as a front for that.

Who would like dirt on Prince Andrew? Think of all the people who were there. And these, you know, there were important people who You know, went to Lolita Island. So if it isn't Epstein directly, he might have been being, I'm not trying to let him off the hook because I have anything for him. He was either running his own blackmail business or someone was using him as a front for that.

Who would like dirt on Prince Andrew? Think of all the people who were there. And these, you know, there were important people who You know, went to Lolita Island. So if it isn't Epstein directly, he might have been being, I'm not trying to let him off the hook because I have anything for him. He was either running his own blackmail business or someone was using him as a front for that.

I mean, I think we're kidding ourselves. We tried to pretend that's not what was going on.

I mean, I think we're kidding ourselves. We tried to pretend that's not what was going on.

I mean, I think we're kidding ourselves. We tried to pretend that's not what was going on.

Well... you know, American politicians could ultimately end up in a position to oversee things like intelligence budgets. One of them might even become director. You never know. You can never tell what some crazy president might do. One of the guys who understood the person was J. Edgar Hoover. J. Edgar Hoover spent a long time collecting dossiers and politicians.