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Sandy Cleaver was very wealthy and Devereaux had a pretty big trust fund. And so I know Terry wanted to eliminate both of them because she knew the money would just go to her daughter. So she told Sandy that her daughter had been taken over by Black Lords and she needed to move on to the next plane of existence, but she was gonna need help transitioning.
Sandy Cleaver was very wealthy and Devereaux had a pretty big trust fund. And so I know Terry wanted to eliminate both of them because she knew the money would just go to her daughter. So she told Sandy that her daughter had been taken over by Black Lords and she needed to move on to the next plane of existence, but she was gonna need help transitioning.
Sandy Cleaver was very wealthy and Devereaux had a pretty big trust fund. And so I know Terry wanted to eliminate both of them because she knew the money would just go to her daughter. So she told Sandy that her daughter had been taken over by Black Lords and she needed to move on to the next plane of existence, but she was gonna need help transitioning.
And they went out on that little raft in a no-swim area in Hawaii where all the coral reefs were. And the idea was they would both make it look like an accident because they'd come in and they'd get all cut up and drown. Well, Devereaux drowned.
And they went out on that little raft in a no-swim area in Hawaii where all the coral reefs were. And the idea was they would both make it look like an accident because they'd come in and they'd get all cut up and drown. Well, Devereaux drowned.
And they went out on that little raft in a no-swim area in Hawaii where all the coral reefs were. And the idea was they would both make it look like an accident because they'd come in and they'd get all cut up and drown. Well, Devereaux drowned.
Yeah, she told me what had happened. And she said that Devereaux and Sandy were both supposed to die in that accident. But somehow Sandy didn't end up dying, ended up in the hospital.
Yeah, she told me what had happened. And she said that Devereaux and Sandy were both supposed to die in that accident. But somehow Sandy didn't end up dying, ended up in the hospital.
Yeah, she told me what had happened. And she said that Devereaux and Sandy were both supposed to die in that accident. But somehow Sandy didn't end up dying, ended up in the hospital.
I still went with my dad a few more times to the meetings, and I brought my friend with me. And she was like, I had a dream, and Terry was literally like... blasting into flames, like she just burst into flames and she became this evil, evil person and she was laughing and it was just really interesting. And so she saw right through her and I was like, oh wow.
I still went with my dad a few more times to the meetings, and I brought my friend with me. And she was like, I had a dream, and Terry was literally like... blasting into flames, like she just burst into flames and she became this evil, evil person and she was laughing and it was just really interesting. And so she saw right through her and I was like, oh wow.
I still went with my dad a few more times to the meetings, and I brought my friend with me. And she was like, I had a dream, and Terry was literally like... blasting into flames, like she just burst into flames and she became this evil, evil person and she was laughing and it was just really interesting. And so she saw right through her and I was like, oh wow.
So I really, after that, I didn't go anymore either. I decided that I didn't want to be part of that. It was just too, too crazy.
So I really, after that, I didn't go anymore either. I decided that I didn't want to be part of that. It was just too, too crazy.
So I really, after that, I didn't go anymore either. I decided that I didn't want to be part of that. It was just too, too crazy.
Terry kept a tightrope around him. She would always convince them that something bad has happened. Black lords have attacked you. You're not going to be safe. You're going to endanger your family if you stay alive. I remember screaming, going, that's a bunch of bullshit. You know, screaming that out, going, great. So she's done it again.
Terry kept a tightrope around him. She would always convince them that something bad has happened. Black lords have attacked you. You're not going to be safe. You're going to endanger your family if you stay alive. I remember screaming, going, that's a bunch of bullshit. You know, screaming that out, going, great. So she's done it again.
Terry kept a tightrope around him. She would always convince them that something bad has happened. Black lords have attacked you. You're not going to be safe. You're going to endanger your family if you stay alive. I remember screaming, going, that's a bunch of bullshit. You know, screaming that out, going, great. So she's done it again.
He and Terry were very involved at that point. And my mom was really unhappy. He would yell and scream at my mom a lot. Then they said that they were going to get a divorce.
He and Terry were very involved at that point. And my mom was really unhappy. He would yell and scream at my mom a lot. Then they said that they were going to get a divorce.