Riley Gaines

Actually, in the sport of swimming, again, there was a swimmer from Harvard by the name of Skyler Baylor, competed on the women's team, and then decided to switch to the men's team at Harvard.

Isn't there an issue, though, with steroids?

Because if you're going to compete as a man, that means you're biologically transitioning.

That means you're adding exogenous hormones, which would mean that you're taking steroids.

Right.

And you're allowed to do that if you're a woman transitioning to a male?

There was no – the Instablase policy at the time was 12 months of HRT, hormone replacement therapy, and you can compete in the category that best suits you.

Right.

So with Leah Thomas, I'm sure you got into this.

What were the requirements that this 12 months?

Is there an analysis of testosterone levels?

Is there –

That's it.

That's the only standard.

No threshold.

No one is actually checking to see if this person is actually taking estrogen or taking testosterone blockers or doing anything.

You just have to say you're on this program for 12 months?

I believe so.

Yeah, I'm not sure what the process looked like if they talked to Thomas's doctors.

I don't know.