Riley Gaines

But yeah, the policy that had been in place since 2010, so obviously this is a pretty old policy, 12 years at the time.

That's what it stated.

So that policy's been intact for 12 years?

Correct.

And now NCAA in true cowardly fashion is changing course.

Right.

They don't want to be responsible.

They don't want to be accountable for this.

So what they're doing now is a phase out approach of this policy and leaving it up to each party.

specific sport governing body to make their own rules right so now for swimming they would resort to looking at world aquatics or fina which is the international governing body for soccer they'd look at fifa for rowing they'd look at u.s rowing uh they don't want to blanket policy anymore and again they don't want to be responsible or accountable so they're leaving up to the governing bodies and what decision of the governing bodies the governing bodies made

Some have taken appropriate steps.

I don't know of many sports that have been perfect, but swimming, for example, their policy now is if you've gone through male puberty, you can't compete with women, which they were really the first ones to take that bold first step in prioritizing fairness over inclusion.

But the policy insinuates if you have transitioned by the age of 12,

then you can compete with the women, which is not satisfactory.

Even taking puberty blockers before the age of 12, there are still advantages that males possess over females.

And even if they didn't, it's the women's category.

It's not for men.

And then you have other sports that have gone –

the total opposite way, like soccer, for example, that leave it up to self-identification.

Basically, you just compete where you feel best.