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Yeah, I don't... I don't want to get in trouble.

Yeah, I don't... I don't want to get in trouble.

No, not from her. I don't want to be reductive in saying we didn't want an only child because we felt like Calvin having someone was important and that he wasn't taking the brunt of everything.

No, not from her. I don't want to be reductive in saying we didn't want an only child because we felt like Calvin having someone was important and that he wasn't taking the brunt of everything.

We have had that thought and as I've gotten older... This is the part where I don't want to seem reductive.

We have had that thought and as I've gotten older... This is the part where I don't want to seem reductive.

I think subconsciously, I feel like when people have more than three or four kids, that there has to be some sort of religious thing or other element that I'm not getting.

I think subconsciously, I feel like when people have more than three or four kids, that there has to be some sort of religious thing or other element that I'm not getting.

I also don't want to alienate anyone that's listening that has more than three kids. Oh, no, no.

I also don't want to alienate anyone that's listening that has more than three kids. Oh, no, no.

I know people too like that, that I think break my idea of that. It's just I think where I grew up and the people I grew up around when I was around the church, like when you had that many kids, it was like a very religious symbol for me.

I know people too like that, that I think break my idea of that. It's just I think where I grew up and the people I grew up around when I was around the church, like when you had that many kids, it was like a very religious symbol for me.

Yeah, it was like Seventh Heaven vibes, where like, dad's the pastor. I forgot about that show. Dad's the pastor.

Yeah, it was like Seventh Heaven vibes, where like, dad's the pastor. I forgot about that show. Dad's the pastor.

Yeah, you can't. Who was in that? It was one of, it was a pop star. Jessica Biel was in that.

Yeah, you can't. Who was in that? It was one of, it was a pop star. Jessica Biel was in that.

She married Justin Timberlake.

She married Justin Timberlake.

Seventh Heaven cast. I don't know that any of the other, I don't think there were pop stars in there. Oh, no. I'm thinking of something else. What was... You're going to have to Google the dad, though. I think something happened with the dad.

Seventh Heaven cast. I don't know that any of the other, I don't think there were pop stars in there. Oh, no. I'm thinking of something else. What was... You're going to have to Google the dad, though. I think something happened with the dad.