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Chapter 1: What is Quiverfull and its beliefs?
I mean, saying SF I feel like is a little odd.
I would just say the full city. San Francisco.
Yeah, but when you're typing it, I think you can put SF.
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Chapter 2: How does the Quiverfull movement influence family planning?
In saying that, Quiverfull did have some quite batshit teachings. Mary Pride, who was kind of one of the main instigators of the whole Quiverfull thing, she took that quote in Psalms very seriously. She basically argued that Sex for anything but procreation was like incredibly wrong and pleasure bad, kids only. Pride argued God commanded that sex be at least potentially fruitful.
All forms of sex that shy away from marital fruitfulness are perverted. It was also pride's belief that the devil deceives Christian couples into using birth control so that children God otherwise willed to create are prevented from being born.
I mean, the whole contraception is bad and sex is just for procreation isn't unique to Quiverful, though. It's a lot of the, like... Heaps of religions do it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's a bunch of non-Christian religions that are also deeply into no contraception. That was just the pillar of Quiverful was... That was their only... I think what I find funny and interesting about it is that's the one thing.
That was just the hill they were going to die on and if you...
yeah it's not like they had other things like there was little other things attached in the world of that form of christianity but the one thing was like no contraception god is in control of your quivers and just do your thing and if you're meant to have loads of kids you will and if you don't you don't do they have any like stance on sexual desire then too no sexual desire was god's way to make children like the only reason for sexual desire was that you fuck and have kids
This all just comes back to the fact that if there's more...
more christians or more people within your religion that's more people to go proselytize your religion absolutely and push it that's the whole thing yeah just create an army of like mostly white christians to go out and create more of those people yeah which is interesting because i think and i'm curious to get your take on this because i don't have kids but there is that thing as a parent right where you create this little person so that when you die
you can send your ethics and morals and thoughts into the world. Part of the joy of having a kid seems to be creating a little you that you then launch forward into the world. There's a little bit of that.
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