Rizwan Virk

Right.

So today, aliens is a way to explain UFOs because at least we, you know, just like the planet Krypton, right?

It's past the 10-year-old test, right?

You can say aliens, whereas, you know, back in the time of Kepler, who actually many consider to be the first science fiction writer, even though he came up with Kepler's laws of motion, he wrote some fiction about visitors and other planets and stuff, right?

Back then, it was so bizarre to talk about that.

That it was just outside of what people understood.

But it was also outside of what the dominant institutions of the time, which was the church.

During Galileo and Kepler's time, the church was the dominant institution.

And so you didn't want to say things that are outside.

What's happened now is we have science has become –

the dominant institution.

And so people within academia feel like they're constrained and they want to be careful in the same way that people were back then to talk about this weird stuff.

And so I think when you get into some of these other explanations, it's more likely because the phenomenon has so many different aspects.

So for example, I was talking with Whitley Strieber recently.

I don't know if you've ever had him on.

Communion, which, you know, because Communion has had that gray head, alien head on the cover, it's become kind of the dominant thing.

But he was talking about a story recently, which again sounds so bizarre, right?

About a young man who, he talked about this on the air, so I can share it publicly.

But he said there was a young man who claimed that he had met this young woman and they got into a physical relationship and then one day she calls him over to her house.

Okay, and this sounds totally batshit crazy.