Rob Beckett

Yeah, and that would normally be the producers from the production company and then loads of young people that are working at that production company, either junior producers.

Oh, absolutely fizzing.

Interns, you've got 18-year-olds fresh out of uni.

Yeah.

You actually demand that, don't you?

Also, they'll know what you can and can't do.

So you can hide behind the format and blame that if it's not a good afternoon.

Yeah.

You know, obviously I'm Josh Whitaker and I'm great.

So maybe this format needs tweaking a bit.

That's always how I started.

No.

you have to go this isn't going to happen because the odds are still long against oh yeah you just can't care you just go even if there's commissioners in the room who are from the channel yeah so i've got two with commissioners from channels but then that's when it gets spiky not spiky but more stressful because the production company really want to make a good impression on the commissioner so do you because ultimately they pay for everything well and ultimately

They'll say things like, the commissioner's here, the commissioner's here, the commissioner's here.

But when they say commissioner, also you expect some sort of corporal from the army.

Yeah, just really, really nice middle class people with normally bright coloured socks, a big sort of gap and fold up jeans and a cap and a jacket.

Yeah, yeah.

Those are pretty cool guys.

Yeah, or girls.

Or girls.