Rob Cesternino

Exactly.

You should be able to also enjoy it.

It's hard for the show to have both things.

How often do you eat?

So in the new era, and I think that this is, I'm happy to explain as much of the Survivor lore.

Yes, because this means a lot to the Survivor fans that you and Ryder are talking about the show.

I don't want you to give up on Survivor.

We're happy you're here.

So I can give just a little bit more of the history of the show, because this is a 25-year journey for Survivor.

So after COVID, Survivor came back with a new format that they call the New Era.

Survivor used to be 39 days, really, since it started.

And so the seasons were 39 days, and it was structured all a certain way.

After COVID, they had like a bubble that they had everybody come in.

So you'd come to Fiji and then you had to quarantine for two weeks.

And so because of that, they cut the production cycle down from 39 days to 26 days.

And for that, they said, hey, we kind of like this idea.

It's going to be fast paced.

We're not going to give them any supplies.

They have to earn everything.

So I think on its surface, you probably would say like, okay, well, I think maybe that's more interesting that they don't get anything.