Rob Cesternino

but the people who are writing the most commentary about the show is probably a more vocal minority.

And so for Survivor, I think they get overwhelmed with, what do we do?

We want to keep our most vocal fans happy, but also we sometimes are losing the fans who are a little bit more not as living and dying with Survivor.

I'm much more into the game in terms of for my viewing experience, because I think that we've you know, we've seen people fish.

We've seen like we've seen people have to start the fire.

Now, you do get some novel things like in this season when we saw Christian use two pairs of glasses to start a fire.

And that's a bit of a throwback.

We haven't seen people do that.

And I think in a character like Ozzy this season, where we saw in the most recent episode where he's really in the water and that's really but it's part of his character.

a more of like, this is who he is, where he tells us like, getting back to nature is heaven for him.

And that's always been part of Ozzy's story where he's a little bit like, they used to describe him as like Mowgli from the jungle book, that he was just a guy who came out there.

And then it just took to the elements so much.

And so there is a really deep, rich character backstory for all of this.

I've been thinking about what you've been saying with that it's a hard first season to watch.

And I do wonder if maybe because all of the shows are on streaming and available for anybody to jump in.

Whereas when in the era of like...

over the air broadcasting that there were people who were, OK, I'm going to watch Survivor this season.

And they had no way to go back and watch the old stuff where I wonder if by design it's like, hey, all right, well, if you want to like get started with Survivor, all that stuff's on Paramount Plus.

Like this is for the people who are coming in who want to explore where the game is at now.

You're starting with episode nine.