Rob, Luisa, and the 80000 Hours team
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And perhaps it won't be again in future.
I think it's like,
I don't know.
I'm always reluctant to say that anything is a blind spot because I always feel annoyed when people say that about me.
But I think this is something that I think will be more salient to other generations of people in the future or from people who are further away from this present moment than it is to us who are living through it.
That's my guess.
Okay, so what are the ways in which you think liberalism might be less competitive as a system and less attractive, less appealing a way of organizing society post-AGI than it is today?
I see.
So we almost have to imagine a hypothetical society in which no one can make anything.
There's no economic production occurring, at least among this group.
There's just a fixed endowment of resources that they happen to have found and run into a certain amount of food, a certain amount of houses, and all of that.
And they've got to figure out how to organize themselves.
I guess...
It's not necessarily desirable for me for you to have free speech and to be able to advocate for yourself all that well, or to be able to like educate yourself and become more and more powerful and influential because it is completely zero sum.
The more influential you become, the more you'll be able to advocate for getting stuff that is literally like food out of my mouth or like money out of my bank account.
Is that the main thing that has changed?
So to push back on this, what other sort of positive sum dynamics might continue to exist?
I mean, I guess in as much as people all think that the thing that I want to do is the morally right thing, then they might โ and there are other people who like also are pursuing that goal.
Even if they disagree about specifically what that is, they might still be in favor of pluralism because that might help โ they might think that that will โ
lead them to like converge on a good answer.