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Rob, Luisa, and the 80000 Hours team

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80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

I guess.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Okay.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

So we're designing sort of a forecasting model here that we think we're going to say, we're going to backtest it and say, well, this approach worked well.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Um, when we, you know, we, we gave it information up to a 1970, it was able to predict what would happen in 1975.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

So we're going to hope that a similar, like a similar technique today is going to help us to see what the world would be like in five years time.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

I mean, I guess you might think,

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

the present is different than the past, not only in the sense that it's like the specifics, but also the rate of change or the nature of the kind of change is different than what we're seeing in the historical sample that we have.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

So maybe the accuracy will not be so great in future.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Is that a possibility?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

I guess underlying the forecasting approach is I guess the idea that smarter AI advice will help us to navigate all of this better, that if we can foresee the failure modes and say conditional on X happening, do you think Y is a likely outcome?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

That's going to allow us to act earlier to prevent these negative dynamics beginning and then getting reinforced.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

So if people want to contribute to this forecasting thing, how can they get involved?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

I guess Alec Radford, you said, is working on it.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Could you just email Alec?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

It sounds like that would require substantial compute if you're having to make sure that there are almost no errors in the labeling of these enormous corpuses of text.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Yeah, I imagine that this model would have commercial value as well.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

People are very interested in predicting geopolitical events and economic events.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

So one reaction you've had is, no, we're not going to become gradually disempowered.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Another reaction is, yes, we will.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

And it's going to be a good thing.