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Rob, Luisa, and the 80000 Hours team

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80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

I guess that's...

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

There's a sense in which that's obviously really good, but then maybe it should make us queasy, the idea of a government going in and basically writing what assistance you can get with anything.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Okay, so that's why AI constitutions are going to be important.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

I guess, is there anything to be done on this today?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Yeah, I guess... So the way that we've tried to safeguard at the written constitution stage is making it very difficult to change.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Or I guess you bring everyone together and then try to agree a constitution that a supermajority is in favor of, and then you make it really difficult to change it.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

I guess it's a very difficult balance to say how difficult is the right amount of difficult to change.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

But we're not going to be able to do that with AI, right?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Because it's changing so quickly, and they're always ordering the system prompt, or at least it doesn't seem...

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

You know, if we passed a law saying the system for everything has to be exactly this and we can't change it.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

You're really making me love open source AI, David.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

I think I never felt so enthusiastic about it as this minute.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Yeah, it's a difficult challenge because it also creates some problems.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Do you think we'll navigate that one reasonably?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Okay, the open source versus non-open source thing?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

I guess you expect excessive government control?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Okay, and so you're less worried about the bioweapons stuff?

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

Yeah.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

I suppose the idea will be, again, a keyhole solution that fixes the specific problems with open source AI, the ways in which it's most dangerous and lets the other problems slide and then we use it as much as possible.

80,000 Hours Podcast
Why 'Aligned AI' Could Still Kill Democracy | David Duvenaud, ex-Anthropic team lead

So there was another essay earlier this year, I think, The Intelligence Curse by Luke Drago and was it Rolf Lane?