Rob Mills

It will change your life.

I remember walking with my brother, we were training for the Oxfam walk and that's a hundred kilometre walk.

So we're going on these

six, seven hour walks.

After an hour or so, you're done with the small talk.

You're done with, you've talked about the kids, you've talked about the footy.

Next thing you know, you're like, all right, what's, what's really going on?

What's really happening?

What are you really holding in at the moment that you need to get out?

So I can highly recommend a proper long chat.

I know that's very hard for a lot of people with kids and, but the more you do it, the more you've got rid of all the small stuff and you can just talk about the real stuff.

No.

No, my dad is probably not great.

As he's gotten older, I think he's definitely gotten better.

I found if I was, like, we're doing some renovating in the apartment or whatever, we were just painting or doing some tiling.

And dad would just, like, oh, yeah, this reminds me of the time that –

Just get them to do something.

Get them to do an activity.

Men will talk.

I've had some of the greatest chats with my dad.