Rob Sand

I'm excited for this moment, Chuck. I think what really, one of the things that really crystallized it and made it clear that it was necessary was the gutting of the auditor's office bill that took effect, I think, about

I'm excited for this moment, Chuck. I think what really, one of the things that really crystallized it and made it clear that it was necessary was the gutting of the auditor's office bill that took effect, I think, about

I'm excited for this moment, Chuck. I think what really, one of the things that really crystallized it and made it clear that it was necessary was the gutting of the auditor's office bill that took effect, I think, about

not quite two years ago, where the Iowa legislature and the governor literally made it legal for state agencies and departments in Iowa to hide documents from the state auditor's office. It's the kind of thing that just makes you go, okay.

not quite two years ago, where the Iowa legislature and the governor literally made it legal for state agencies and departments in Iowa to hide documents from the state auditor's office. It's the kind of thing that just makes you go, okay.

not quite two years ago, where the Iowa legislature and the governor literally made it legal for state agencies and departments in Iowa to hide documents from the state auditor's office. It's the kind of thing that just makes you go, okay.

I would I would say this. It was really more of a question of being serious about trying to do the job and do public service as opposed to being one of the insiders that's like, oh, you don't want me to dig into that program. Well, don't worry about it. Then I won't because you told me not to. And hey, we're all friends, right? You know, That kind of stuff, because I wouldn't go along.

I would I would say this. It was really more of a question of being serious about trying to do the job and do public service as opposed to being one of the insiders that's like, oh, you don't want me to dig into that program. Well, don't worry about it. Then I won't because you told me not to. And hey, we're all friends, right? You know, That kind of stuff, because I wouldn't go along.

I would I would say this. It was really more of a question of being serious about trying to do the job and do public service as opposed to being one of the insiders that's like, oh, you don't want me to dig into that program. Well, don't worry about it. Then I won't because you told me not to. And hey, we're all friends, right? You know, That kind of stuff, because I wouldn't go along.

I wouldn't I wouldn't do the go along to get along kind of thing. And so I think that, yes, it was easier for them to do it because I was a Democrat. But if I had been a Republican who was really serious about public service, not politics, they would have tried.

I wouldn't I wouldn't do the go along to get along kind of thing. And so I think that, yes, it was easier for them to do it because I was a Democrat. But if I had been a Republican who was really serious about public service, not politics, they would have tried.

I wouldn't I wouldn't do the go along to get along kind of thing. And so I think that, yes, it was easier for them to do it because I was a Democrat. But if I had been a Republican who was really serious about public service, not politics, they would have tried.

I just don't know if they could have gotten enough majorities to go along with it because we had bipartisan opposition in the Iowa House to it as it was.

I just don't know if they could have gotten enough majorities to go along with it because we had bipartisan opposition in the Iowa House to it as it was.

I just don't know if they could have gotten enough majorities to go along with it because we had bipartisan opposition in the Iowa House to it as it was.

Yeah. And I think there's going to be a great piece for this, which is a great answer for that here. We uncovered a record amount of misspent money in my first term. And the answer to that from politicians in Des Moines was to go, hey, we got to stop this guy. He's actually doing his job. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think there's going to be a great piece for this, which is a great answer for that here. We uncovered a record amount of misspent money in my first term. And the answer to that from politicians in Des Moines was to go, hey, we got to stop this guy. He's actually doing his job. Yeah.

Yeah. And I think there's going to be a great piece for this, which is a great answer for that here. We uncovered a record amount of misspent money in my first term. And the answer to that from politicians in Des Moines was to go, hey, we got to stop this guy. He's actually doing his job. Yeah.

Right. Right. Yeah. You'd think that that would be the answer, but that's the difference. And that to me is the like I think of the heart of this campaign. It's really the question of public service and government trying to serve all Iowans versus. Politics and having it serve insiders and special interests.

Right. Right. Yeah. You'd think that that would be the answer, but that's the difference. And that to me is the like I think of the heart of this campaign. It's really the question of public service and government trying to serve all Iowans versus. Politics and having it serve insiders and special interests.