Rob Sand

Right. Right. Yeah. You'd think that that would be the answer, but that's the difference. And that to me is the like I think of the heart of this campaign. It's really the question of public service and government trying to serve all Iowans versus. Politics and having it serve insiders and special interests.

And I don't think that you could have a clearer example of that than literally them looking at us doing our job really well and going, we got to slow him down.

And I don't think that you could have a clearer example of that than literally them looking at us doing our job really well and going, we got to slow him down.

And I don't think that you could have a clearer example of that than literally them looking at us doing our job really well and going, we got to slow him down.

Look, I guess I'd say this. People who know me, I'm glad that you asked that question because people who know me know that I'm not satisfied with a two-choice system. And I think it's important that we talk about that. The bottom line is...

Look, I guess I'd say this. People who know me, I'm glad that you asked that question because people who know me know that I'm not satisfied with a two-choice system. And I think it's important that we talk about that. The bottom line is...

Look, I guess I'd say this. People who know me, I'm glad that you asked that question because people who know me know that I'm not satisfied with a two-choice system. And I think it's important that we talk about that. The bottom line is...

Most of us have experienced this in the ballot booth where we look at our options and we see Democrat, independent, Republican, and we see the independent and we like the independent. But we're also like, man, if I vote for the independent, I know I'm just throwing my vote away. And there's that frustration of just sort of the being trapped, right?

Most of us have experienced this in the ballot booth where we look at our options and we see Democrat, independent, Republican, and we see the independent and we like the independent. But we're also like, man, if I vote for the independent, I know I'm just throwing my vote away. And there's that frustration of just sort of the being trapped, right?

Most of us have experienced this in the ballot booth where we look at our options and we see Democrat, independent, Republican, and we see the independent and we like the independent. But we're also like, man, if I vote for the independent, I know I'm just throwing my vote away. And there's that frustration of just sort of the being trapped, right?

Being a prisoner of this system while we are also participants in it. That's the bottom line. It's the same question for a candidate. So I would love to have a system in Iowa where independent candidates can actually get elected very easily. But we're going to have to change how the system works before we get there. How would you change that in Iowa to do that?

Being a prisoner of this system while we are also participants in it. That's the bottom line. It's the same question for a candidate. So I would love to have a system in Iowa where independent candidates can actually get elected very easily. But we're going to have to change how the system works before we get there. How would you change that in Iowa to do that?

Being a prisoner of this system while we are also participants in it. That's the bottom line. It's the same question for a candidate. So I would love to have a system in Iowa where independent candidates can actually get elected very easily. But we're going to have to change how the system works before we get there. How would you change that in Iowa to do that?

Sure. But if you do that, then you get back to the same thing, which is if I run as independent, the Republicans go out and they collect petitions to have somebody run as a Democrat and they have someone register as a Democrat or they find some.

Sure. But if you do that, then you get back to the same thing, which is if I run as independent, the Republicans go out and they collect petitions to have somebody run as a Democrat and they have someone register as a Democrat or they find some.

Sure. But if you do that, then you get back to the same thing, which is if I run as independent, the Republicans go out and they collect petitions to have somebody run as a Democrat and they have someone register as a Democrat or they find some.

absolutely furious democrat who's so mad at me for running as an independent and then you've got a three-way race and we all know what happens i am i am the spoiler or maybe it's the democrat that's a spoiler but right either way it's over before it begins because of the way we structure elections right so the answer to how you do that in iowa um is again like and well actually i want to go to a different piece of your point here about the tories and sort of being a favored party

absolutely furious democrat who's so mad at me for running as an independent and then you've got a three-way race and we all know what happens i am i am the spoiler or maybe it's the democrat that's a spoiler but right either way it's over before it begins because of the way we structure elections right so the answer to how you do that in iowa um is again like and well actually i want to go to a different piece of your point here about the tories and sort of being a favored party

absolutely furious democrat who's so mad at me for running as an independent and then you've got a three-way race and we all know what happens i am i am the spoiler or maybe it's the democrat that's a spoiler but right either way it's over before it begins because of the way we structure elections right so the answer to how you do that in iowa um is again like and well actually i want to go to a different piece of your point here about the tories and sort of being a favored party

This is supposed to be about solving problems. This is government is supposed to be about people coming together and deciding, OK, what do we need to address this issue? How do we address that issue? So many of our founders warned us. Watch out for factionalism. Watch out for partisanship.