Rob Sand

We got him on the first count because the evidence was pretty clear and inescapable.

We got him on the first count because the evidence was pretty clear and inescapable.

And we got him on the second count because at the end of the day, when you look around at all this mountain of circumstantial evidence, that this man's job is to write the program that picks the winning numbers, that he was in the draw room, that he had access to these machines in his office constantly and could have at any point installed different software.

And we got him on the second count because at the end of the day, when you look around at all this mountain of circumstantial evidence, that this man's job is to write the program that picks the winning numbers, that he was in the draw room, that he had access to these machines in his office constantly and could have at any point installed different software.

It was just sort of this inescapable conclusion.

It was just sort of this inescapable conclusion.

And I pick up the phone. Some guy says, this Rob Sand? I said, yeah. Do you all know Eddie Tipton's brother won the lottery about 10 years ago out west somewhere, maybe Colorado?

And I pick up the phone. Some guy says, this Rob Sand? I said, yeah. Do you all know Eddie Tipton's brother won the lottery about 10 years ago out west somewhere, maybe Colorado?

Tommy Tipton, this justice of peace in Texas, has like half a million dollars of consecutively marked bills. And, of course, this makes the fireworks dealer suspicious.

Tommy Tipton, this justice of peace in Texas, has like half a million dollars of consecutively marked bills. And, of course, this makes the fireworks dealer suspicious.

They closed their case because they say, well, that's weird. I don't fully understand why you're doing what you're doing, but... for someone to be laundering money, that money has to be dirty, and if you won this in the lottery, then it's not dirty money. And they closed their case.

They closed their case because they say, well, that's weird. I don't fully understand why you're doing what you're doing, but... for someone to be laundering money, that money has to be dirty, and if you won this in the lottery, then it's not dirty money. And they closed their case.

And say to them, hey, we have a very real reason to believe that this wasn't isolated in Iowa, and we need a lot of your data about your lottery winners all over the country.

And say to them, hey, we have a very real reason to believe that this wasn't isolated in Iowa, and we need a lot of your data about your lottery winners all over the country.

Kahn is the last name, C-O-N-N, which is just too rich. So let's ask Oklahoma for that claim file. So we go back to Oklahoma. We say, hey, we want this file related to this Kyle Kahn who claimed this ticket here. And they say, all right, here you go.

Kahn is the last name, C-O-N-N, which is just too rich. So let's ask Oklahoma for that claim file. So we go back to Oklahoma. We say, hey, we want this file related to this Kyle Kahn who claimed this ticket here. And they say, all right, here you go.

And I remember I'm sitting in my home, this is around the holidays, sitting in my parents' living room, just pulling up the phone number that is in the Kyle Kahn claim form and running that phone number through Eddie and Tommy's years upon years of phone records. And boom, there's a hit. So at some point we know Tommy Tipton had a phone call with Kyle Kahn.

And I remember I'm sitting in my home, this is around the holidays, sitting in my parents' living room, just pulling up the phone number that is in the Kyle Kahn claim form and running that phone number through Eddie and Tommy's years upon years of phone records. And boom, there's a hit. So at some point we know Tommy Tipton had a phone call with Kyle Kahn.

One of them, in fact, she and Eddie had met on a dating website. And they had gone on a date or two, and, you know, it didn't work out, but they stayed friends. And then she got engaged, and he presented this as an engagement gift.

One of them, in fact, she and Eddie had met on a dating website. And they had gone on a date or two, and, you know, it didn't work out, but they stayed friends. And then she got engaged, and he presented this as an engagement gift.