Rob Sand
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I was sitting at my desk, and David Moss from Wisconsin AG's office calls me. He says, hey, Rob. Are you at your computer? I said, yeah. He says, check your email. I check my email, open up an email from him, open up a PDF attached to it. And I had done a very small amount of HTML coding when I was in high school. And I was instantly able to recognize what I was looking at.
I was sitting at my desk, and David Moss from Wisconsin AG's office calls me. He says, hey, Rob. Are you at your computer? I said, yeah. He says, check your email. I check my email, open up an email from him, open up a PDF attached to it. And I had done a very small amount of HTML coding when I was in high school. And I was instantly able to recognize what I was looking at.
What I was looking at was the code that Eddie had written to make these allegedly random numbers be actually predictable to him. I remember I said to David, do you guys hear that? It's the hallelujah chorus. It's playing in my head right now.
What I was looking at was the code that Eddie had written to make these allegedly random numbers be actually predictable to him. I remember I said to David, do you guys hear that? It's the hallelujah chorus. It's playing in my head right now.
and the story that he tells in that interview is that you know he didn't necessarily set out to start the largest lottery rigging scheme in american history but that he sort of saw that he could do it and once he saw he could do it he decided to see if he would get caught and from having done that once he you know decided to do it again and Saw that it was a way to help friends.
and the story that he tells in that interview is that you know he didn't necessarily set out to start the largest lottery rigging scheme in american history but that he sort of saw that he could do it and once he saw he could do it he decided to see if he would get caught and from having done that once he you know decided to do it again and Saw that it was a way to help friends.
His friend Robert Rhodes was struggling. And did, frankly, what a lot of white-collar criminals do. Rationalize. Give you reasons why the stuff that they were doing wasn't really that big of a deal after all.
His friend Robert Rhodes was struggling. And did, frankly, what a lot of white-collar criminals do. Rationalize. Give you reasons why the stuff that they were doing wasn't really that big of a deal after all.
I look at financial crime and I see people who are in a position of some privilege in life, right? Typically, they're able to commit financial crime because they have access to money. So that removes desperation from one of their motivators. Financial crimes are people who are in a good position in life who are abusing, choosing to abuse that position over and over and over again, typically.
I look at financial crime and I see people who are in a position of some privilege in life, right? Typically, they're able to commit financial crime because they have access to money. So that removes desperation from one of their motivators. Financial crimes are people who are in a good position in life who are abusing, choosing to abuse that position over and over and over again, typically.
So when you talk to me about financial crime, what I hear is someone who is greedy, whose crimes are crimes of selfishness, whose crimes are the people, and frankly, who thinks they're smart enough to get away with it.
So when you talk to me about financial crime, what I hear is someone who is greedy, whose crimes are crimes of selfishness, whose crimes are the people, and frankly, who thinks they're smart enough to get away with it.
Philip Johnston... entered a cooperation agreement with the state of Iowa. There isn't really any reason to think that he actually knows the bigger truth or knew the bigger truth of what was going on at the time that he made the claim. And the same goes for Crawford Shaw. I think they certainly could have asked more questions of their clients if they wanted to.
Philip Johnston... entered a cooperation agreement with the state of Iowa. There isn't really any reason to think that he actually knows the bigger truth or knew the bigger truth of what was going on at the time that he made the claim. And the same goes for Crawford Shaw. I think they certainly could have asked more questions of their clients if they wanted to.
But they were asserting claims on behalf of a client, and there wouldn't be a good basis to charge them in the whole scheme of things.
But they were asserting claims on behalf of a client, and there wouldn't be a good basis to charge them in the whole scheme of things.
A lot of it was cash, a lot of it was spent, a lot of it Eddie put into his house here in Iowa. A lot of it they ended up paying back to their attorneys here in Iowa. But they also agreed to pay restitution. So every penny stolen from a lottery ticket is agreed upon between the two Tipton brothers and Robert Rhodes. to get repaid.
A lot of it was cash, a lot of it was spent, a lot of it Eddie put into his house here in Iowa. A lot of it they ended up paying back to their attorneys here in Iowa. But they also agreed to pay restitution. So every penny stolen from a lottery ticket is agreed upon between the two Tipton brothers and Robert Rhodes. to get repaid.
And they've also agreed not to fight legal proceedings in order to seize land in Texas that they own to get those debts paid.
And they've also agreed not to fight legal proceedings in order to seize land in Texas that they own to get those debts paid.