Rob Walling

And I really feel like those books helped shape a lot of my thinking.

I also listened to a ton of books on personal finance and investing because I knew that that was just an important skill that they don't teach in school.

So I think a couple takeaways are you don't need permission to start training for a future role or to start learning.

And if you're listening to this podcast, you already know that.

Kudos to you if you're a career or a truck driver with long hours and you're listening to this show and others like it because you are training your mind to be exposed to other entrepreneurs and to think like an entrepreneur.

And I think especially in the early days that can be really helpful.

The other thing I think is if you're just getting started and you're just starting to learn, the best time to learn these hard skills is before you're forced to use them.

Lesson number four is that hard work is non-negotiable.

So after I was a courier, I was actually an estimator for a while, a few summers and breaks as I was in college.

And then my first job out of college was as an electrician in the field.

So I was doing construction work in the Bay Area, physical labor,

hands-on labor, swinging a hammer, so to speak.

And that job taught me that manual labor is hard.

Even in my 20s, I was sore a lot.

I needed a lot of sleep.

And that work doesn't care how you feel about it.

It's got to get done.

Unless I wanted to quit or get fired, I had to put in the work.

And it was pretty, you know, it was hard on my body, which in my 20s, I could take that.

I can't imagine doing it these days.