Rob Walling

Our next topic is that ChatGPT has started running ads, is going to start running ads.

I actually don't know.

I've been, since I pay for it, I don't see ads.

But Anthropic ran a spicy Super Bowl ad pointing out, it was a little disingenuous, but then Sam Altman got pretty...

Thank you so much.

And then it says Anthropic serves an expensive product to rich people.

We are glad they do that, but we feel strongly that we need to bring an ad to billions of people who can't pay for subscriptions.

So there's a lot here.

Tracy, I'll kick it to you first in terms of ads in ChatGPT.

What do you think about all of it?

A&R, what do you think about this?

Yeah.

Anytime you're selling a free product, then the person using it is the product, right?

That's the old adage.

And when you're selling to basically consumer-ish folks, that's been the monetization model for radio, for television, for all the mass media.

So there's too much money and value to be unlocked here to not do it, I think.

In addition, I just want to call out

that producer Ron and I were talking right before this call about putting together a YouTube video on the opportunity here for startup founders because we have B2B SaaS companies that are like, well, SEO, Google SEO is getting a little scary and Google AdWords are too expensive and...

Facebook meta ads are too expensive.

You know when Google AdWords was really cheap?