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Rob Walling

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Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

For those who aren't familiar, QSBS is a U.S.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

tax benefit that applies to eligible shareholders of a qualified small business.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

So it's Qualified Small Business Stock.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And this is a United States IRS entity.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

exclusion or a you know whatever a federal government exclusion from taxes and i'm not a lawyer nor an accountant so google this or ask chat gpt but the general idea is if you own shares in a company and that includes founders and you sell for less than a certain amount and you hold those shares for five years or longer you pay no federal income tax on that sale and

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And the limit used to be really low.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

It used to be $10 million.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And in July of 2025, it was raised to, I believe, $15 million.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And you have to hold it for five years or longer.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

But if you only hold it three years, you get a 50% exclusion.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

If you hold it for four years, you get a 75% exclusion.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

Five years gives you the 100%.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

So the idea here is taxes in the US are not great.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And, you know, even long term capital gains taxes can hit you for 20% if you sell millions of dollars, plus there's a 3%.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

this, and then you have state taxes, and you have all this stuff.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

But to be able to sell a company and to not pay federal capital gains tax is a big deal, and it'll save you money.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

Now, the question is about whether Ryan and his co-founders should go with a C Corp or an S Corp, because you only get the exclusion if you are a C Corp.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And the answer really truly is it depends.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

Do you think you're going to hold the company for at least three years?

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

Because even that 50% exclusion, imagine selling it for $10 million and not paying federal tax on $5 million of that.