Rob Walling

I never got fired.

I was left the job, but it was, uh, I would get bored with things and,

I think like a lot of entrepreneurs do, kind of get tired of the BS and be like, it should be different.

I'm going to go try to do this other job.

I'm going to make more money, but I'm also going to try to go to this job that sounds better.

And then usually it wasn't better.

So my advice here is if you can be involved in hiring at your day job, do it.

And then watch other folks around you.

Watch how good people evaluate talent.

If you have a manager who's really good at hiring, pick their brain like crazy and try to figure out what's their mental model.

Try to get better at it.

You can also read books about this these days.

There weren't so many 20 years ago.

I mean, there were a few, but there's a lot more these days that can help you get better.

And lesson number 11 is exposure to systems that work really well and being up close and personal with them can teach you a lot.

So this one comes from the last salary job I had before starting Tiny Seed.

And this was after we sold Drip.

I was a salaried employee and I was exposed to what was just an exceptional hiring funnel.

Our acquirer had gone from, they had like hired 100 people in a year or something like this because they had raised $38 million in venture funding and they had a really solid people ops team, that's what they called their HR group.

They had two recruiters.