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Rob Walling

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Podcast Appearances

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

This is a really good question.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

So if I was starting a bootstrapped or mostly bootstrapped SaaS today, I would not make it solely

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

based on customer GMV.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

But Sebastian specifically asked, thoughts on a SaaS that earns additional revenue, meaning you are charging a monthly fee, just like monthly or annual, just like any other SaaS, additional revenue through GMV, I think is a great f***ing idea.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

If I had any way to do this that made sense in my SaaS, I would 100% do it.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

I see the GMV being higher quality than usage-based fees because it tends to be, and it depends on the business, but it tends to grow over time in a way that usage can be spiky and not grow as smoothly.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

In addition, with GMV, as you charge them a percentage, you can also lower your credit card processing fee by switching away from, you know, there are providers that are really easy to get set up on that are 2.9%, but you can find processors that do, like I

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

think it's like 1.5 or 1.9.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

It's somewhere in there.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And so you could still charge like a totally reasonable fee.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

Let's say it's 1.9.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

I don't actually remember that the bottom bottom end that I've seen tiny C company gets you, but it's somewhere in the one points.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

So if you get to 1.9, and you're charging 2.9, you're taking a percentage of, you know, 1% of GMB.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

If you charge that 3.9, 4.9, which is pretty reasonable in a lot of contexts, like you are taking a significant amount of customer revenue, not a significant amount of their revenue, but

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

It adds up across your customer base of 100, 500, or 1,000 customers.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

So do I think this is as good as MRR?

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

Probably slightly less, but man, it really depends on the curve.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

It depends on how smooth it is.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

And if it's truly going up over time as your MRR is, I think you can make the argument.

Startups For the Rest of Us
Episode 819 | QSBS, Exit Multiples, How to Learn Marketing, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

You're certainly going to try to make the argument during an acquisition that this is super high quality revenue.