Rob Walling

And I'm not saying exceptions that you should build an audience, but where it is nice to have a group of people who know who you are. And whether that's 1,000 followers on Twitter or 2,000 or whatever, you tweeted it out.

And I'm not saying exceptions that you should build an audience, but where it is nice to have a group of people who know who you are. And whether that's 1,000 followers on Twitter or 2,000 or whatever, you tweeted it out.

yeah here's this thing here's a gif of of the screen click here to try it out and that is a really nice luxury if you had no social media following and you had no network no community you could still do it hell we've all done we've all been there i did it 15 20 years ago and you know you've done it yourself but this made this sped up the process is what it did

yeah here's this thing here's a gif of of the screen click here to try it out and that is a really nice luxury if you had no social media following and you had no network no community you could still do it hell we've all done we've all been there i did it 15 20 years ago and you know you've done it yourself but this made this sped up the process is what it did

Yeah. And I feel like it's it's a virtuous cycle because it ties back into the shipping muscle comment you made earlier of you shipped and then you get really quick feedback. And that feedback is a dopamine rush of like good or bad. I'm doing something. And that's where, you know, the build in public hashtag. I could take it or leave it.

Yeah. And I feel like it's it's a virtuous cycle because it ties back into the shipping muscle comment you made earlier of you shipped and then you get really quick feedback. And that feedback is a dopamine rush of like good or bad. I'm doing something. And that's where, you know, the build in public hashtag. I could take it or leave it.

I think the biggest benefit of build in public is not, oh, like, look at me and I'm going to get customers from this. I think it's the feedback loop.

I think the biggest benefit of build in public is not, oh, like, look at me and I'm going to get customers from this. I think it's the feedback loop.

Really quickly, especially, well, if you're building in public and you're targeting the people who are actually listening, because the problem is if you make anything that's not for indie hackers or developers and you put it on Twitter, you get indie hacker and developer feedback. And it's not, and usually, which is the opposite of what you actually want.

Really quickly, especially, well, if you're building in public and you're targeting the people who are actually listening, because the problem is if you make anything that's not for indie hackers or developers and you put it on Twitter, you get indie hacker and developer feedback. And it's not, and usually, which is the opposite of what you actually want.

But in this case, you know, you are, developers could feasibly bring it inside a company, you know, maybe they're not that the target user, but they at least know how it works.

But in this case, you know, you are, developers could feasibly bring it inside a company, you know, maybe they're not that the target user, but they at least know how it works.

And so where do you stand today then? You launched this thing three weeks ago. You got feedback. People hooked it up to their production database. Do you have more learnings and you know what features are going to build next? Is there more research thinking, data gathering to be done?

And so where do you stand today then? You launched this thing three weeks ago. You got feedback. People hooked it up to their production database. Do you have more learnings and you know what features are going to build next? Is there more research thinking, data gathering to be done?

I like it. Sounds like a good plan. Shipping often, shipping early, shipping often, small pieces. To piggyback on your emotional runway, I have this thing that I tweeted once and then now I say it now and again, and it's, Funded companies fail when they run out of money. Bootstrapped companies fail when the founder runs out of motivation.

I like it. Sounds like a good plan. Shipping often, shipping early, shipping often, small pieces. To piggyback on your emotional runway, I have this thing that I tweeted once and then now I say it now and again, and it's, Funded companies fail when they run out of money. Bootstrapped companies fail when the founder runs out of motivation.

And I would count, you're a mostly bootstrapped company, you know? And what I see, what we see with Tiny Seed and outside of it is some people will have some traction after a year, two, three, four years, they're at 4K, MR, 5K, but you just get so tired of doing it.

And I would count, you're a mostly bootstrapped company, you know? And what I see, what we see with Tiny Seed and outside of it is some people will have some traction after a year, two, three, four years, they're at 4K, MR, 5K, but you just get so tired of doing it.

And you feel, you know, you watch other, the success stories come out and you feel like, can I just, so that's where bias towards action, mostly working on the right things and getting enough of them correct that you have momentum. Because once you lose momentum, it's demoralizing. And you can only beat, you know, demoralized for so long.

And you feel, you know, you watch other, the success stories come out and you feel like, can I just, so that's where bias towards action, mostly working on the right things and getting enough of them correct that you have momentum. Because once you lose momentum, it's demoralizing. And you can only beat, you know, demoralized for so long.