Rob Walling

That includes stock grants and such.

And then I know folks living in a very low cost of living city or working remotely who are doing a very similar job and making $100,000.

So when we say the US, that's a big spread and Canada as well.

But you get the idea.

Could some owner level thinkers be making $250,000, $350,000 a year?

Absolutely.

I just know most companies listening to this podcast and most folks that I deal with don't have the budget to hire folks like that.

And then I think the last question is, is it possible to hire these owners without payroll slash W-2?

I mean, it depends, maybe.

I've never heard of this.

Like if someone is this good and they're this valuable, they will be full-time W-2 with health care if you offer it, any other benefits you have.

Think about it this way.

How do you get someone who's this good to come work for you?

Because they can work anywhere they want if they know their value.

And so 30 hours a week plus other stuff is...

I don't know, I mean, it's a scrappy bootstrappery way to do things and maybe you'll get lucky, but owner-level thinkers are hard enough to find in the wild anyways.

They're hard to find.

And if you find them, hopefully they know their value and they can kind of go anywhere.

So I can't imagine someone wanting to come on board

and work for 30 hours a week pay unless that really fit their whole lifestyle.