Rob Walling

And they were like, oh, I only want to work 30 hours, right?

There are some folks who do want that lifestyle and they want that freedom of that extra 10 hours a week.

And in that case,

Yeah, you know, maybe it would work.

Maybe you could hire, here's the thing, maybe they want to work as a contractor because they do want to maintain that freedom and flexibility of their lifestyle.

And in that case, I guess it could work.

It just generally, I think if you want someone in your org, this owner level thinker will likely become a pretty pivotal part of your org and potentially be managing the whole area or department, managing the whole thing.

They maybe should get equity as a retention motivator.

And so, yeah, I think those are my thoughts there.

W-2, creating tax liabilities depending on state and location.

Yeah, it's just what happens.

I mean, there are certain states I don't think I would hire in because of that.

So thanks for those questions.

And so I think that question...

Another question that you really have to ask yourself is, do you have the budget to hire a project or owner level thinker?

Because back in the day when I was bootstrapping nights and weekends, I just didn't have the budget.

And this is why I developed some bad habits of doing everything myself and only hiring virtual assistants or really inexpensive resources and really junior resources and training them up and giving them SOPs.

And it was fine and it was what I needed at that time but it came back to bite me later because it was a bad habit that I developed and it took me a long time to get to the point of like, oh no, at a certain point I need to spend more money on my team and I need to hire more mid-level and senior people so that we can move faster and that all of the decision-making burden is not on me.

So being realistic with yourself about budget, do you have it?

And if you do, hire project if you can, project level and owner level if you can.