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Rob Wiblin

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2780 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

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80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

And I pointed out that the most cutting edge AI agents might cost more to operate than even a human software engineer.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

But near-frontier capabilities are often much, much cheaper.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

Gemini 3 Flash, for instance, it performs on most tasks within a percentage point or two of Gemini 3 Pro, and it costs just a quarter as much to run.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

And it answers questions much, much faster as well.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

So a lot of people just prefer it for that reason.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

And the more out on the tail you go, the more extreme these cost reductions can become.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

Last year, people who regularly listen to the show, they know that I discussed with Toby Ord how in late 2024, OpenAI passed a really very difficult reasoning benchmark, Arc AGI 1, by spending fully $4,500 on compute per question in the test.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

the model would go away and write notes the length of the Encyclopedia Britannica, trying to answer these questions, questions that you or I, in fact, could answer very, very easily.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

Well, a year later, OpenAI managed to achieve the same performance for $11, a 400-fold decline.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

So basically, there is a very steep cost-performance curve at the frontier, but most of us don't need the absolute frontier.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

And even if we do, costs at that frontier are falling incredibly quickly.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

Fourth, there was a fascinating study that came out very recently looking at predictions a bunch of relatively bullish short timelines AI folks made about how AI would go back at the start of 2025.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

On the questions of how well AI would do on different intelligence measures, they were basically right, on average at least.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

Sometimes they overestimated, sometimes they underestimated, but on average they were basically on the money.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

The one place they got things significantly wrong

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

was on the question of how much revenue OpenAI, Anthropic, and XAI would earn selling their products to customers.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

These forecasters, who are bullish on AI capabilities to be sure, they predicted that it would go up 2.5-fold to an annualized revenue rate of $16 billion.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

But in actual reality, it went up almost 5-fold to $30 billion, and that's in an industry that's already quite significant.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

It's hard to look at this kind of growth and escape the idea that this is a product a lot of people really want, and that they use quite frequently, and that they're willing to pay cold, hard cash for.

80,000 Hours Podcast
What the hell happened with AGI timelines in 2025?

My fifth point, and this is the last one.