Rob Wiblin

So yeah, some of the things I've started other than Civita are people who are working on policy change to improve the welfare of fish in aquaculture, people who are going and working on policy around cigarettes in developing countries, and also groups that are trying to encourage reductions in lead exposure, I think, in particular in developing countries again.

So what sort of services did you get by going through this program?

I suppose, well, both actually you and Charity Entrepreneurship were like very much in the kind of its early stages back in 2019.

Yeah.

What did you find most useful about the program?

I suppose it was charity entrepreneurship that kind of shortlisted this intervention.

Is that right?

Yeah, yeah.

Did they help with fundraising in the early stages?

Or do you get a grant if you go through the program?

Yeah.

To what extent are they helping by legitimizing the decision to quit the other things that you're doing?

I imagine there's plenty of people who, you know, could imagine going and starting something new, but then perhaps it feels very risky to do it or they don't quite feel like they have the confidence to strike out on their own.

And maybe having people, you know, select you from a competition or a competitive pool of applicants saying, yeah, you should absolutely do this and we're going to help you do it, like gets people over the line.

Yeah, nice.

Have you stayed in touch with the other founders who went through the program?

Yeah.

Yeah, for listeners who are thinking they might want to apply, do you know what kind of selection criteria they're using to decide who to admit to the program?

So as I understand it, Charity Entrepreneurship had started this previous thing, Charity Science Health, a couple of years earlier that was already doing the SMS message reminder thing.

And then you kind of merged with them.