Rob Wiblin

Yeah.

What do you think made you willing to quit a quite normal, secure, sensible development job in order to go and start this organization when so many other people are not willing to take that kind of step?

Yeah.

So potentially you'd save money.

You've been working for a while and quite a lot of like serious jobs.

And I guess perhaps you'd save some money and felt a bit more like financially secure to jump off and do something different that may or may not pan out.

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

This was like a slightly odd thing to dwell on.

But I think it is super important because for people who want to go into entrepreneurship, or just in general, their plan for impact involves taking risk later in their career, we often suggest it's like quite valuable to save money, because that just might be the thing that prevents you from doing it later on if you don't feel like you have a reasonable like financial safety net.

And I guess with partners as well, it makes sense potentially for one partner in a relationship to have a more risky career and the other one to have a more solid career and you can get a

Yeah, so he's supportive of having impact with your career.

That's an important priority for him as well?

Okay, cool, cool.

What's been most difficult about founding Civita that people might possibly not suspect?

Yeah.

What was your approach?

I think some organizations, they froze their projects kind of and tried to save money.

And they were like, we'll call you staff when we're ready to kick things up again.

Did you consider doing that or indeed possibly do that?